Count Down To Saturday

Looks like she had a good time. :D

I requested girls (and the first girl of the day requested a girl - I was the only girl pilot). I ran out of girls after the second 11 year old girl. Then I got, eventually, 2 nine year old boys. 4 flights total - in the beloved 150 which was perfect for this mission.
 
I requested girls (and the first girl of the day requested a girl - I was the only girl pilot). I ran out of girls after the second 11 year old girl. Then I got, eventually, 2 nine year old boys. 4 flights total - in the beloved 150 which was perfect for this mission.

Great! Glad it worked out OK.
 
Congrats, Kimberly! Sounds like you had a good time. Unfortunately, low ceiling didn't allow our pilots to get off the ground. There were even guys who were wondering if they'd be able to leave for OSH that day at all.
 
Congrats, Kimberly! Sounds like you had a good time. Unfortunately, low ceiling didn't allow our pilots to get off the ground. There were even guys who were wondering if they'd be able to leave for OSH that day at all.

Guys that wish they had their IR. :wink2:
 
So one of the funniest things from Saturday (and yeah I think I got heat stroke since I didn't eat or drink and it was over 90 degrees).....

I flew one 11 year old girl, next another 11 year old girl, and then a 9 year old boy, and finally one more 9 year old boy. On each of the four flights, in front of each parent in the reception tent, before taking the child to the plane, I said to the kid:

" . . . and then, when we are high enough, and only if you want to, I will let you fly the plane!"

Most parents heard this and would then repeat to the kid what I just said, adding something like "oh won't that be fun!"

All four of the children seemed to agree.

HOWEVER, once away from the parent, on both occasions, each boy said to me almost the exact same thing:

"Do I really have to fly the plane? Because - I don't want to crash."

So they didn't say anything in front of Mom or Dad, but when alone with me and in the plane before engine start, the truth came out.

I find this amusing since the girls were so excited to take the controls.

The happy ending to this story is - once I was at my planned altitude of 1,500 feet - BOTH BOYS said to me over the intercom on each flight "can I fly now???"

I am still smiling just thinking about it.
 
The brave ones:

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Note that girl, above, had never been in a plane before. Not even a jet plane. Really neat to fly her around.
 
After their flights, what were they saying? Was it just something they fond fun for an afternoon? Or did any of them catch the bug?
 
After their flights, what were they saying? Was it just something they fond fun for an afternoon? Or did any of them catch the bug?

The one in the photo with the grandma (I think) had the grandma ask, "so do you want to be a pilot now?" and she said "yes"!

On the flip side, one of the boys - a smarty pants - said to me in the plane "I don't want to be a pilot you know" in kind of a mean way.

Oh well, you win some you lose some.
 
The one in the photo with the grandma (I think) had the grandma ask, "so do you want to be a pilot now?" and she said "yes"!

On the flip side, one of the boys - a smarty pants - said to me in the plane "I don't want to be a pilot you know" in kind of a mean way.

Oh well, you win some you lose some.
I don't remember if anyone (myself included) suggested this, but one of the things I try to remember to do is tell the girls about Girls With Wings, Women in Aviation, and the 99s, if they seem like they're interested in flying as a future.

Good job, Kimberly! Kudos!
 
Thanks for the update and pics, Kimberly. I love it that the girls seemed to have the confidence! I wish I had some more of that.:(
 
Looks like you can see me "let her take the controls" by showing me right and left turns. Yay Cloud Ahoy.

We were briefed on the route and our radio sign (mine was Eagle One One aka Eagle 11).... I plugged in the waypoints to the route into Foreflight with the organizer so that I didn't have to think as much about navigation - thinking with 12 of us in the sky I should focus more on eyes looking for traffic. So I had the iPad in my lap but did the short version of the route... each flight was exactly 0.4 hobbs plus briefing, debriefing, and signing paperwork. Any longer (full route) and I really wouldn't have had many kids. In the 150 you just can't go that fast or that far.

Here is an example of her taking the controls and then you see me back on them for the 45 entry to the pattern:

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I wish that I had the capability to go back and re-read your very first post. You are a different woman now.

Bob Gardner
 
I wish that I had the capability to go back and re-read your very first post. You are a different woman now.

Bob Gardner

Found it but that site ain't easy, it took forever.



Hitting a wall in your flight training (long)
Hello,

I realize a negative / frustrated post might not be the best thing to put here for my first time visiting the site but I don't have many pilot friends (yet), especially female ones, and I got really upset on my last flight lesson.... thinking of quitting. I was hoping that when my flight instructor told me "this happens to 95% of pilots" he wasn't joking.... have any of you ever felt overwhelmed or upset with yourself, especially pre-solo? I mean, I want to succeed . . . perhaps this is actually hurting and not helping my progress.

Some background:

(I don't have my log book in front of me so this is approximated) - At one non-towered airport, in mostly one plane, with only one instructor, roughly 1-4 lessons per week, I have about 25 hours, with roughly 30 - 50 landings (only recently did I do a few with the controls all by myself so he may be conservative compared to other teachers) and as far as I know I have done all of the pre-solo lessons such as ground ref maneuvers, stalls, steep turns, slow flight, emergencies, different kinds of landings and takeoffs, different airports, class D airspace, all sorts of interesting stuff. I have had at least 10 - 20 lessons, each lasting 0.5 - 2.0 hours. My instructor even joked he "almost got out of the plane" when I had the softest landing on Sunday and he's talking about a "pre-solo quiz" which I studied for based on what I think it may cover: FARs, my airplane (limitations, v-speeds, systems), emergency procedures, what I can and cannot do as a solo pilot etc.... I think I got so worked up about "making it" that I totally screwed up my last 10 landings and even some takeoffs! He started helping with the controls again and I got really down on myself for this thinking: WTF?

Here were some of my thoughts on Sunday written down out of pure frustration:

I am sorry if you think this is about you stepping out of the plane, or about only landings landings landings - it is not. It is about me getting better on every maneuver. No one wants to spend weeks or months still losing or gaining altitude in the traffic pattern or "out there", still not coordinated in turns, still forgetting to pull up the flaps after taking off, still stumbling on the radio for the right words or forgetting to announce at all on half the legs or even on takeoff.... not having time or ability to change a radio frequency in coordinated slow flight or even pick up a checklist while spiraling to the ground with plenty of time...takeoffs that are still far from keeping the centerline, forgetting runway numbers or responses from ATC radio, not turning crosswind / downwind / base at the right time or doing anything abeam the numbers, not understanding (at all) wind / wind directions / wind corrections and how wind affects speed/ distance / headings, I could go on for days.

Absolutely unacceptable. Going backwards just doesn't make sense or feel good - there is no way that anyone would want to travel back in time. Maybe I just don't really have what it takes. And don't tell me "anyone can fly" - maybe some people cannot. Maybe I am one of them. I don't want to continue if this is hopeless.... I'm sometimes lost in the cockpit, I can't find anything on the ground (like the airport!), I don't hear / understand what is being said on the radio or retain it, I can't even tell you after a flight what we did the hour before or I confuse one event with another. And no pen and paper allowed? How can I remember anything? Maybe I have some kind of learning disability - you tell me what we are going to do, before and after we do it and while we are doing it too.... so by now it should be instinct. I have never felt so useless, honestly maybe I shouldn't fly since it is only going to get harder (Math, planning, weight and balance, maps and flight time calculations, IFR and foggles etc). I don't know what to do and I've spent god knows how many thousands of dollars already on flight lessons, and the courses and the equipment and the books and the memberships and everything and I'm not even 1/3 done.

Somtimes I think I might not show up again. But - who would? Who would show up to fly more airport patterns and make more mistakes? On stuff that should be simple by now? At airports the god damned pilot can't even see right under the plane's wing (example, shouldn't I have looked at runway numbers and then figured out that if I pointed my plane that way, towards that exact heading, I would be lined up with the runway? Why didn't I think?)

It was said to ATC were were south / southeast of STS and the compass was not pointing... let's just say I couldn't figure out what that meant and leave it at that. Doing the compass calculations to figure out where we are in relation to things affects airports, wind corrections on landing / takeoff/ general flight, everything. Multi-tasking in the cockpit, often can't do that either. So, no vision in air, no sight of traffic or airports, no compass understanding, no wind understanding, not able to listen and retain instructions, etc etc etc.

I'm pretty sure this pilot thing just isn't a skill I can handle... has any CFI ever told students to take up piano or golf instead? With their experience, CFI's should know who can fly and who can't. So it would be nice to know if I'm a piano player.

Is it too early to decide? My instructor says this close to solo it would be a waste to stop now, I've come so far, I'm at one of those "don't turn back now" points in time.

I re-read this post and it makes me sound like I have no confidence. In normal life, I have tons of it. Not so sure why I don't when airborne.

Thank you all in advance for any insights.


Kimberly Anne
 
I wish that I had the capability to go back and re-read your very first post. You are a different woman now.

Bob Gardner

Agreed. I think we might see the initials "CFI" after her name pretty soon.
 
Agreed. I think we might see the initials "CFI" after her name pretty soon.

When I win the lottery maybe.

Funny story:

Two things happened at Young Eagles of note:

1. The parents aren't normally allowed to come to the plane with the kids, they need a safety officer escort. It was slow (no kids to fly with pilots waiting and nothing to do)and this one grandma wanted to be with her little girl. See photo, above. The safety officer working the event watched over us as I strapped in the little girl, made her show me she could open and close both the door and her seatbelt, explained to her many other things, and then sent the grandma back. Most other pilots were off and running and did twice as many kids as I did that day.... not sure what they did to brief the children. He pulled me aside later, looked me right in the eye, and told me that in decades of doing this it was hands down the best safety briefing of a child he had ever seen. I laughed and said I made it up on the fly.

2. As mentioned, there were too many pilots and not enough kids. Each time I was done flying a child, there was paperwork to fill out. Since it was over 90 degrees, I welcomed the opportunity to go back to the building in the shade, sit down, debrief the parent, and sign the log book. On one such occasion I was talking about something such as weather or wind or density altitude or something. Once the parent and child left a man sitting on the porch at our table said to me 'so nice to see such a good instructor and her student working together.' I laughed and said, I'm a private pilot who just got my cert a few months back! He said, 'well then have you thought about instructing?' I said, 'no, I can't afford it, I'm still paying off my private and can't even get an instrument rating.' Then he said 'keep it there, in the back of your mind, for now. You would make a great one.'
 
Thanks for the update and pics, Kimberly. I love it that the girls seemed to have the confidence! I wish I had some more of that.:(

Thank you for the PM.... made me want to share with you:

There are many times in my flying I have been under confident. However, this was a situation where I knew I had to act a certain way (confident) around the kids and parents and really make both of them feel like I would bring the child back in one piece.

My flying, after PPL, has had many reality checks but after 4 flights on Saturday I realized the only thing that matters is to fly. The more you fly (especially back to back or within a few days) the more natural everything becomes so that you can begin to feel ahead of the plane. I only recently knew what that was like, since I am uncomfortable going new places. Being truly ahead of the plane will give you precious time when things don't go as planned and you have to devote your attention to a fix.

Also - While pushing your own personal envelope can be scary, it is very rewarding.

Last year when I started attending EAA meetings and hearing about YE, I looked up to the pilots who flew them. I was too scared to participate, thinking I wasn't good enough, was too green, or would get lost or screw things up - until it came to my home airport where I feel I know the place (after over 200 landings at the darned place I sure hope so).

Now that I "know" YE I think I can go anywhere and do it. Granted, since this is me we are talking about, I'd probably practice the week before if it was a new place - but heck, I know Angel Flight pilots who won't fly a mission with a patient to a new place without going there first alone.... so I'm in good company.

Don't worry, you'll get there - confidence takes time. Don't let anyone else influence you either - just do what is comfortable for you and trust yourself to do the right thing.
 
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