JasonM
Pattern Altitude
I am thinking of getting my commercial rating but was wondering what it will allow me to do. How does it compare to ATP? I realize an ATP is well beyond, but don't understand what you get to do with Commercial vs ATP.
Several 135 ops require it as well.Commercial lets you get paid for flying. ATP adds the privilege of flying a 121 airliner. (with appropriate type rating, of course.)
Example of some questions I had.
Lets say you could afford (I can't) a caravan and wanted to fly people around as a small charter company. Could you do that with a Commercial?
Lets say a company is looking to hire a pilot for minimum wage to fly their employees around the country. Could you do that with a Commercial?
It's nearly a requirement for most all high paying flying jobs too though, even if ATPs aren't legally required, much like how some non aviation jobs ask for a University degree vs. a high school diploma.
In turbine aircraft to fly as the captain ,on charters ,with pax aboard , you have to hold an ATP rating.
That would be a 135 type operation. Do you happen to have a reference for that?
re. flying to ATP standards, what would you say is the single biggest difference, as compared to checkride standards for commercial and instrument rated?
In turbine aircraft to fly as the captain ,on charters ,with pax aboard , you have to hold an ATP rating.
That would be a 135 type operation. Do you happen to have a reference for that?
That would be a 135 type operation. Do you happen to have a reference for that?
Time required before you can take the test.
In turbine aircraft to fly as the captain ,on charters ,with pax aboard , you have to hold an ATP rating.
Part 135 that require the PIC to have an ATP:
- Scheduled commuter ops in a multi-engine airplane with 9 or less seats
- On-demand ops in a multi-engine with 10 or more seats
- Turbojet operations
Well, I meant when you're in the cockpit. For example, greater precision when flying an ILS by hand. What along those lines is the single biggest difference, for flying to ATP standards.
JM, if you were thinking of starting a charter operation (of any size), getting the commercial certificate is the easy part. The part will be getting your 135 certificate.
Am I correct to assume I would need that even if I was hauling a few people in a 182 or 206 for short charter flights?
Several 135 ops require it as well.
So a cessna caravan with its turboprop engine, you would not be allowed to fly people for hire?
Several 135 ops require it as well.
§ 135.243 Pilot in command qualifications.
(a) No certificate holder may use a person, nor may any person serve, as pilot in command in passenger-carrying operations—
(1) Of a turbojet airplane, of an airplane having a passenger-seat configuration, excluding each crewmember seat, of 10 seats or more, or of a multiengine airplane in a commuter operation as defined in part 119 of this chapter, unless that person holds an airline transport pilot certificate with appropriate category and class ratings and, if required, an appropriate type rating for that airplane.
How many passengers can you fly in a single engine with a commercial?