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And what were the outcomes of these appearances? Were you represented by counsel?
Child Support nightmare from hell.
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And what were the outcomes of these appearances? Were you represented by counsel?
1600vw
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No council. I was luck to have a roof over my head at that time. The outcome they kept charging me child support. I am still paying today. My daughter is 29 and has a child of her own.
But now I have the evidence needed when at this time or back then, I did not. Thanks to the nice lady at the states attorney's office who gave me this.
She was very upset when she saw someone went against a Judges order. She said you can not do this..Well Da.
Tony
1600vw
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Oh I had a divorce attorney when I went through my divorce. My x fired her attorney then used mine. She would call him sometimes 7 or eight times guess who got the bill. No way I would call him for anything today. I am not paying that man one more penny.
The fist eight or so years of 2000 I was in really bad health. I spent my time either in bed or the hospital.
Brad Z
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OK, I'm calling BS.
Jim Rosenow
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...and a related question... How much did you spend on hobbies over that ten years?.... or are these someone else who uses a matching user ID? That person...
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WkBmulDVYZU Two weeks ago posted the video of the first flight of his homebuilt
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-9lMoigbwvI Apparently sold this airplane for $5500 (see comments underneath), end of 2013
http://www.pilotsofamerica.com/forum/search.php?searchid=12974377 Prop balancing video on POA (also on EAA forum) showing his other airplane
More on youtube.com, of course....
Edit...and before anyone gets in a huff about asking a personal question... the question is directed to the OP, who opened his personal finances for discussion.
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Yeah....I don't want to call anybody names, but something is just not right here.
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Find Paul Laird's lawyer and call him/her. He or she already knows what hoops need to be jumped through.
paflyer
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That was my thought as well.
paflyer
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How in hell would YOUR lawyer take her calls? Conflict of interest, anyone?
I didn't say call the same lawyer, I meant ANY lawyer; the minute you got the runaround and was told "someone" reopened your case.
1600vw
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When I found out last week this happened, the first thing I did was start calling attorney's.
What kind of plane do you own?
1600vw
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One with wings.
JOhnH
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Don't you mean TWO with wings? Or did you sell one of them?
1600vw
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No not yet. Waiting for spring to relist it. But its going so I do not count it. I only fly one.
But as to the other question. I fly small single seat go no where style airplanes. I fly just to get away from earth. I care not if I only go two miles from my airfield. That is about as long as I can sit in one anyway. But its fun and I enjoy it.
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Did you ever go to court and get an order ceasing child support when your daughter turned 18 (I am assuming this was the south in your case). In Illinois you apparently have to get an affirmative court order placed in records to cease liability. A former business partner didn't and he had to pay. In my situation, I had my lawyer file a motion before my daughter turned 18 to stop support and it was ordered by the judge. Support payments stopped then.
1600vw
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Yes in 2005 I went to court and the judge stopped this. This was what the states attorney's office was shocked over. She said a judge closed this case and someone reopened it. She was very upset about this.
Like I said 250 grand is not enough for all the hell I have gone through. I want justice.
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If you want to collect for damages, you'd better lawyer up and go to work. Unfortunately, you're not going to get anywhere without a good lawyer who knows the laws in your state. You might not even get anywhere with a good lawyer.
Personally, my first step would be to recover the excess funds I'd paid in to the system. You might be able to accomplish that administratively, possibly without a lawyer, IF you have your ducks in a row and approach the bureaucracy at the right point. If you have an elected representative at the state level, someone in his/her office might be able to get the ball rolling for you. But again, you'd better have all of the appropriate information at hand. How much you paid, when your daughter "aged out", etc.
Jim Rosenow
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If you intend to pursue free or reduced-cost legal assistance (Land of Lincoln Legal Services, for example), you will be asked to list your assets. I urge full disclosure, and not the logic you use to claim you only own one airplane. LOLLS receives both State and Federal funding, and under-reporting could turn your civil issues into criminal fast enough to make your head spin.
1600vw
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Oh I have it all. I have tried to stop this. I can not even get the support stopped. Again this month I will be making another payment to child support. Again this year the state will want 350 bucks for maint. fee's.
I went to every agency or department and was shuffled to the next, then the next. The child support enforcement office won't help me because my case was closed in 2005. The shuffled me to another department, then another, then another. All admits my case is closed but I am still paying. No one wants to step up. This is how I ended up at the States attorney's office. They shuffled me to this office after the circuit clerks. They know someones is in deep crap and no one wants to admit to doing this.
But I still pay for a child 29 years old on a case that has been closed. All departments tell me its been closed. The states attorney office says it was opened and sent me the paper work showing it was closed then a year later someone opened it again.
All I can tell you. I am still paying child support on a child that is 29 years old and has a child of her own.
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1600vw
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Well da. They would know or see titles. But these are not worth much and the only thing I own besides my 20 year old car. But I am willing to donate 25% after costs of anything I receive to them, if they were to help me. I would do this for anyone that would help me. Out of what I receive I would give 25% to anyone who will help me fight this. After cost..attorney's fee's.
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Engage a lawyer or bring someone with some political clout into the matter. Otherwise, you're just on the hamster wheel.
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Maybe I should just wait another 10 years and sue for a Million. I am going to contact my buddy who purchased my second airplane for me and ask him to fund this. I will offer him 25% of the settlement after cost.
paflyer
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Does this "someone" have a name? If it was me, that would have been the next question after "Are you sh**ting me?"
1600vw
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She said she had no idea who it was. She gave me the files that show this. It just says reopened and gives the date it was reopened of 2006 and a month. This also show the date of 2005 and month when it was closed and the Judge that closed it.
Seems to me if a judge has to close it... It should take a judge to re open it.....
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That is what she said. It takes a judge to reopen this and someone went against a judges order.
paflyer
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Ummm... have you contacted the State Attorney General's office? Raise some hell.
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No after being shuffled all around and finding out the info I did. I started looking for help. It will take more then me to fight this.
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Again, call your state representative's office and have them make the phone call to the appropriate agency. Even better, visit your state representative's office and get them on the case. They have staff which is there to help constituents with exactly this kind of problem.
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Do you know for a fact your Ex received the money? I would guess that someone in some office somewhere MIGHT have set this up to rip you off and pocketed the money. You do need to get some legal help and perhaps politician help.
Are you sure you aren't just paying arrears? Those don't cease when the child reaches 18, or 29. They cease when they are all paid off. It doesn't sound like you were paying very much in between all those years of disability and whatnot, especially if you only paid $10k over the course of 2 years. That's certainly not enough to support a child, and it's hard to believe that's all your obligation would have been. Exactly how much per month were you supposed to be paying per month up until the child turned 18?
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I need to get serious.
None of this makes sense. I think that there is a lot more to this story than we are hearing. 
1600vw
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I have papers from 2010 that show I only owed 48 bucks in back child support. But that is not correct for my child support stopped in 2005. In 2006 when the case was reopened I was one year behind according tot he paper work. A judge closed this case. How can I be a year behind in 2006. I did not pay any thing into this until 2007 when I received disability. So now I am two years behind on a case that was closed but reopened. Then my daughter received $8900.00 check. I found the copies sent to me from SS telling me what she was getting. None of that 8900 bucks was applied to child support. But I owed nothing the case was closed in 2005. I was up to date in support on that date.
But that really matters not for I do have a paper from child support telling my I owed 48 bucks. They have taken thousands since I received that letter. But if one was to audit this account one will see I am tens of thousands of dollars over paid.
I will not be fighting this for a while. My back went out getting dressed. I can hardly breath or sit here and type this. This will have to wait.
Tony
But that really matters not for I do have a paper from child support telling my I owed 48 bucks. They have taken thousands since I received that letter. But if one was to audit this account one will see I am tens of thousands of dollars over paid.
I will not be fighting this for a while. My back went out getting dressed. I can hardly breath or sit here and type this. This will have to wait.
Tony
Hmmmm.
None of this makes sense. I think that there is a lot more to this story than we are hearing.
Agreed 100%.....
1600vw
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None of this makes sense. I think that there is a lot more to this story than we are hearing.
I bet people told Paul Laird the same thing.
My child is 29. Even if I owed back child support. After all these years don't you think it would be paid off by now?
I could post the proof I have but I am not doing this. But believe me when I say I have all the proof to prove this case in my favor. The state owes me thousands just in back child support. Not to mention the punitive damages.
Tony
P.S. I have my daughters marriage license from when she was married at age 19. I also have paper work from the state giving her married name as the person I am paying child support for.
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