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Cap'n Jack said:
No, very few take that course at once.
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So, in general, those who are taking advanced science courses might not be a good representation of the young person population. Instead, it's a small subset of those who not only attend college, but enroll in some very specialized courses.
 
sarcasm is sometimes difficult to detect

What percentage of high school students go to college?

What percentage of college students take a challenging science course?

In any case, interacting with a class of 100 students for a few hours a week most definitely is a fantastic qualification for knowing all about yutes today.

sarcasm is sometimes difficult to detect
 
Bob Noel said:
sarcasm is sometimes difficult to detect

What percentage of high school students go to college?

What percentage of college students take a challenging science course?

In any case, interacting with a class of 100 students for a few hours a week most definitely is a fantastic qualification for knowing all about yutes today.

sarcasm is sometimes difficult to detect
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Half Fast said:
So, in general, those who are taking advanced science courses might not be a good representation of the young person population. Instead, it's a small subset of those who not only attend college, but enroll in some very specialized courses.
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Salty got it right.
 
Not sure I'd put much stock in the assessment of young people from someone who doesn't know the difference between lose and loose.
 
EdFred said:
Not sure I'd put much stock in the assessment of young people from someone who doesn't know the difference between lose and loose.
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You see that on this board from older people too. I suppose not catching when spell-check "corrects" to the improper word could cause the wrong usage.
 
Cap'n Jack said:
You see that on this board from older people too. I suppose not catching when spell-check "corrects" to the improper word could cause the wrong usage.
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actually, it seems to happen more with the older posters.

put another way, we’ve seen the “loose” and “lose” typo for decades
 
EdFred said:
Not sure I'd put much stock in the assessment of young people from someone who doesn't know the difference between lose and loose.
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Obviously you consider that grammatical oddity far more important than the publication of 50 or so scientific papers and 3 books. But whatever.
 
steingar said:
Obviously you consider that grammatical oddity far more important than the publication of 50 or so scientific papers and 3 books. But whatever.
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Not sure why, but this just popped into my mind…

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“Please respond to “Obviously you consider that grammatical oddity far more important than the publication of 50 or so scientific papers and 3 books. But whatever.”

“As an AI language model, I do not have personal opinions or biases. My goal is to provide accurate and informative responses based on the information available to me. The use of grammar or language is an important aspect of effective communication, but it should not be a primary consideration in evaluating the validity or importance of scientific publications. The number of publications and books can indicate the impact and significance of a researcher's work, but it is also important to consider the quality and methodology of their research, as well as its relevance and contribution to the field.”
 
FastEddieB said:
“Please respond to “Obviously you consider that grammatical oddity far more important than the publication of 50 or so scientific papers and 3 books. But whatever.”

“As an AI language model, I do not have personal opinions or biases. My goal is to provide accurate and informative responses based on the information available to me. The use of grammar or language is an important aspect of effective communication, but it should not be a primary consideration in evaluating the validity or importance of scientific publications. The number of publications and books can indicate the impact and significance of a researcher's work, but it is also important to consider the quality and methodology of their research, as well as its relevance and contribution to the field.”
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By that metric, @steingar still wins. Try reading his work. You may learn something.
 
steingar said:
Obviously you consider that grammatical oddity far more important than the publication of 50 or so scientific papers and 3 books. But whatever.
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It's not an oddity when it's used over, and over, and over in the wrong context. It's a demonstration of ignorance. Hopefully someone proofread your papers or you never had you use the correct term. Do you know the actual difference between lose (misplaced, decreased value/amount, etc...) and loose (the opposite of tight)? A search on here using your name and the term loose shows over a hundred misuses of the term. So yeah, I won't put much stock in someone's assessment of grammar and literacy when they don't know the difference between the two. I mean, they aren't even homophones like two, too, and to; your, you're, and yore; its and it's; or even or, ore, and oar.
 
On the other hand, the "loose" vs "lose" happens so often that I just pick the correct term when reading posts.

I don't mind such sloppiness in interweb postings.

On the other other hand, I don't know why someone would continue to make such an obvious mistake... especially ironic when the poster claims to be smarter than everyone else.
 
FastEddieB said:
In each case, the answer bordered on, “It depends”. Part of the issue, I suppose, is that many things in life are not black and white, and an AI needs to present both sides. Unlike Google, you have no idea of the provenance of the reply. For instance, which option is from WebMD and which is from some alternative medicine site.
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I think my retirement from consulting in about 10 years will nicely align with when AI writing has progressed to the point it will be indistinguishable from my own consulting reports.
 
Bob Noel said:
On the other hand, the "loose" vs "lose" happens so often that I just pick the correct term when reading posts.

I don't mind such sloppiness in interweb postings.

On the other other hand, I don't know why someone would continue to make such an obvious mistake... especially ironic when the poster claims to be smarter than everyone else.
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At least in this thread, he didn't make that claim. He was defending young people. I see how one statement in this thread could be taken two ways, but I'm sure he meant "I know more [young people] than you", with the brackets containing the missing words he should have used. I agree with the first part of your comment.

EdFred said:
It's not an oddity when it's used over, and over, and over in the wrong context. It's a demonstration of ignorance. Hopefully someone proofread your papers or you never had you use the correct term. Do you know the actual difference between lose (misplaced, decreased value/amount, etc...) and loose (the opposite of tight)? A search on here using your name and the term loose shows over a hundred misuses of the term. So yeah, I won't put much stock in someone's assessment of grammar and literacy when they don't know the difference between the two. I mean, they aren't even homophones like two, too, and to; your, you're, and yore; its and it's; or even or, ore, and oar.
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I see this all the time from other posters here and other forums. It is likely from choosing the first word that appears in auto-complete on a phone, or not checking auto-correct. I don't think about it too much because forum posts aren't terribly important.

There was a well known poster in PoA who consistently spelled "zinc" as "zink", which was surprising as it shouldn't be in a device's dictionary- he had to deliberately use the incorrect spelling. As an A&P, he should have known the correct spelling.

Speaking of ignorance, you are showing your ignorance of the process of writing papers and books. You see, we have people called "editors" who proof-read manuscripts and look for grammar, and spelling errors too.
 
Cap'n Jack said:
I see how one statement in this thread could be taken two ways, but I'm sure he meant "I know more [young people] than you", with the brackets containing the missing words he should have used.
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I saw that it could be read both ways. If we use his other postings (such as ones in which he tells us how many books and papers he's published) to provide context, however, it's easy to assume what he meant was "I know more [about everything] than you."

If we give him the benefit of the doubt and accept your meaning, though, I suspect that he's suffering from selection bias. I doubt that he sees a representative sampling of young people. As evidence for this I consider his statement that his students write better than most of us. His sample set is his students, not a wide selection of young people.

Finally, even if we accept your meaning, the statement that "I know more [young people] than you" is unsubstantiated and presumptious, since he has no idea how many young people @SkyChaser might know.
 
Cap'n Jack said:
...There was a well known poster in PoA who consistently spelled "zinc" as "zink", which was surprising as it shouldn't be in a device's dictionary- he had to deliberately use the incorrect spelling....
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"Zink" is actually a word, referring to a 16th-century musical instrument. However, it's not common enough to be recognized by PoA's spelling checker.

https://www.metmuseum.org/art/collection/search/503951

Zink.jpg
 
Half Fast said:
I saw that it could be read both ways. If we use his other postings (such as ones in which he tells us how many books and papers he's published) to provide context, however, it's easy to assume what he meant was "I know more [about everything] than you."

If we give him the benefit of the doubt and accept your meaning, though, I suspect that he's suffering from selection bias. I doubt that he sees a representative sampling of young people. As evidence for this I consider his statement that his students write better than most of us. His sample set is his students, not a wide selection of young people.

Finally, even if we accept your meaning, the statement that "I know more [young people] than you" is unsubstantiated and presumptious, since he has no idea how many young people @SkyChaser might know.
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Given he was replying to a post that he quoted, [young people] is correct for that context. As @steingar has been teaching for many many years, he does have a good large sample. Also note how presumptuous should be spelled.:)
 
Palmpilot said:
"Zink" is actually a word, referring to a 16th-century musical instrument. However, it's not common enough to be recognized by PoA's spelling checker.

https://www.metmuseum.org/art/collection/search/503951

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And the person in question probably shouldn't have used the term "zink galvanizing" [sic] as an A&P mechanic. He did this many times. I don't think PoA does the spell-checking. I may be wrong but I think it is a function of the internet browser, or maybe the operating system (Windows for me right now).
 
Cap'n Jack said:
Given he was replying to a post that he quoted, [young people] is correct for that context. As @steingar has been teaching for many many years, he does have a good large sample. Also note how presumptuous should be spelled.:)
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He has a large sample of his students. That’s not a broad cross section of the population. Selection bias.
 
Half Fast said:
He has a large sample of his students. That’s not a broad cross section of the population. Selection bias.
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That's not true because we accept this premise as correct:
Salty said:
Another thing, students taking a higher level science course are a great sample for the average young person today.
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Cap'n Jack said:
And the person in question probably shouldn't have used the term "zink galvanizing" [sic] as an A&P mechanic. He did this many times. I don't think PoA does the spell-checking. I may be wrong but I think it is a function of the internet browser, or maybe the operating system (Windows for me right now).
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I doubt that Windows does it, because there doesn't appear to be any spelling checker in use when I type "presumptious" into Notepad.
 
Half Fast said:
I saw that it could be read both ways. If we use his other postings (such as ones in which he tells us how many books and papers he's published) to provide context, however, it's easy to assume what he meant was "I know more [about everything] than you."

If we give him the benefit of the doubt and accept your meaning, though, I suspect that he's suffering from selection bias. I doubt that he sees a representative sampling of young people. As evidence for this I consider his statement that his students write better than most of us. His sample set is his students, not a wide selection of young people.

Finally, even if we accept your meaning, the statement that "I know more [young people] than you" is unsubstantiated and presumptious, since he has no idea how many young people @SkyChaser might know.
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Half Fast said:
I saw that it could be read both ways. If we use his other postings (such as ones in which he tells us how many books and papers he's published) to provide context, however, it's easy to assume what he meant was "I know more [about everything] than you."

If we give him the benefit of the doubt and accept your meaning, though, I suspect that he's suffering from selection bias. I doubt that he sees a representative sampling of young people. As evidence for this I consider his statement that his students write better than most of us. His sample set is his students, not a wide selection of young people.

Finally, even if we accept your meaning, the statement that "I know more [young people] than you" is unsubstantiated and presumptious, since he has no idea how many young people @SkyChaser might know.
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Did you mean presumptuous? Cheers:cheerswine:
 
Gosh. I should really learn to just keep my mouth shut! Theoretically, it is possible for me to learn how to do that. :p
 
Cap'n Jack said:
He makes so many posts with questionable content that I take them at face value.
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I suggest that doing so isn't the best approach. Or at least acknowledge that people make sarcastic comments... some more often than others.

Some people use green font to denote sarcasm, but not everyone.
 
Use green font if you want to make it hard to read.
 
Some people choose to misrepresent anything you say however they feel like in order to prove to themselves they are right.

Anybody that thinks a few classrooms full of kids in an advanced science course is representative of an average kid, has far bigger problems than their lack of ability to detect sarcasm.
 
Bob Noel said:
I suggest that doing so isn't the best approach. Or at least acknowledge that people make sarcastic comments... some more often than others.

Some people use green font to denote sarcasm, but not everyone.
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Some people post good and useful information, and sarcasm is obvious for their posts.
Some people post a mix of good and bad information and it is difficult to separate their sarcasm from their bad posts.
 
Salty said:
Some people choose to misrepresent anything you say however they feel like in order to prove to themselves they are right.

Anybody that thinks a few classrooms full of kids in an advanced science course is representative of an average kid, has far bigger problems than their lack of ability to detect sarcasm.
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I don't think anyone is misrepresenting anything you said:
Salty said:
Another thing, students taking a higher level science course are a great sample for the average young person today.
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