Bombardier - will airline passengers fly a plane with that name?

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A few days ago, Bombardier flight-tested its second airliner, the CS300. Single ausle, 130 seats. It previously announced the CS100, with fewer seats.

I am wondering whether passengers will want to fly it, or avoid it because of the name. To me, Bombardier always makes me think of the bombardier officer in the nose of a WWII bomber, grasping a Norden bombsight before shouting "bombs away!" Younger people might just see the name and think of terrorist bombs.

So why do they use a brand name with the word "bomb" in it? And how many passengers will avoid it because of "bomb"?

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Bombardier has been making and selling airliners for a couple of decades now, and as far as I can tell, nobody's bothered by the name of the widely used Bombardier CRJ200-900 series.
 
The company is named after its founder Joseph-Armand Bombardier (also the guy who invented the snowmobile).

NoHeat said:
A few days ago, Bombardier flight-tested its second airliner, the CS300. Single ausle, 130 seats. It previously announced the CS100, with fewer seats.

I am wondering whether passengers will want to fly it, or avoid it because of the name. To me, Bombardier always makes me think of the bombardier officer in the nose of a WWII bomber, grasping a Norden bombsight before shouting "bombs away!" Younger people might just see the name and think of terrorist bombs.

So why do they use a brand name with the word "bomb" in it? And how many passengers will avoid it because of "bomb"?

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As Ron said, they've been flying in airline service for years.
 
And it's pronounced in the French fashion (Bom-bar-di-yea), not the English (bom-bar-deer), which further separates it from the military connotation.
 
Ron Levy said:
Bombardier has been making and selling airliners for a couple of decades now, and as far as I can tell, nobody's bothered by the name of the widely used Bombardier CRJ200-900 series.
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I don't think the passenger sees or hears the word Bombardier anywhere, when flying on the CRJ. The safety card in the seat pocket just says CRJ, and the flight attendant 's briefing refers to "safety features on this Canada Regional Jet." At least that's what I recall as a passenger. The brand name that sticks in the passenger's mind is Canada, not Bomb-something. I'd guess that is purposeful.

But what can they say, to avoid saying "bomb," when telling you that you are on a Bombardier CS300? What word will stick in your mind, when you want a one-word label for the brand of plane that you are flying? "C Series" sounds too geeky. Bomb-something sounds too scary.
 
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They also produce the aircraft engine Rotax 912 /914. No one has a problem with the name in the ultralight or LSA world. :dunno:
 
Geico266 said:
They also produce the aircraft engine Rotax 912 /914. No one has a problem with the name in the ultralight or LSA world. :dunno:
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Ask someone what engine they have, and they say Rotax, right? Not Bombardier?

So what one-word answer will the Bombardier CS-300 passenger hear and say?
 
NoHeat said:
Ask someone what engine they have, and they say Rotax, right? Not Bombardier?

So w All passengers care about is the airlines not losing their luggage and getting to their destinations on time. at one-word answer will the Bombardier CS-300 passenger hear and say?
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That simply is not true. Bombardier come up frequently with those who know the history of the engine and who owns the Rotax company. I believe warranty claims go directly to Bombardier. :dunno:

There have been many fatal accidents with different aircraft including one that have blown up in the air, and one where the tail fell off. No one remembers the name of the airlines or who made the defective plane. As has been pointed out Bombardier has been making regional jets for decades, the name is irrelevant. . All passengers care about is the airlines not losing their luggage and getting to their destinations on time. ;)

Sorry, I don't see any issues with the name at all. :dunno:
 
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In addition, they make (made?) the monorail trains for Disney. Irrelevant to aviation, but another public relations piece.

There's no reason to assume a negative image.
 
NoHeat said:
I don't think the passenger sees or hears the word Bombardier anywhere, when flying on the CRJ. The safety card in the seat pocket just says CRJ, and the flight attendant 's briefing refers to "safety features on this Canada Regional Jet." At least that's what I recall as a passenger. The brand name that sticks in the passenger's mind is Canada, not Bomb-something. I'd guess that is purposeful.
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Canadair Regional Jet.

I'm not sure why even "bombadeer" aircraft would have a negative connotation. It's a nice aviation term.

Now if the company was called "FirelyWreckage" or something like that, I might be a bit concerned. Of course I was always the one making snide comments about flying Messerschmitts when flying on the F28's.

I annoyed one of my friends who flew the J31/J41 by constantly referring to his aircraft as a Propstream.
 
Bombardier is a lot of things

Challenger series

Learjet series

Global Express series

Q series (old dihavilland turbo props?)

Water bombers

Not quite like Textron tho.
 
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Ron Levy said:
Bombardier has been making and selling airliners for a couple of decades now, and as far as I can tell, nobody's bothered by the name of the widely used Bombardier CRJ200-900 series.
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Yep....lots of CRJ's are in service. I'm in school to get typed in them now. Systems training starts Tuesday, so I'll know a lot more about them next week.
 
Somebody is trying to make a thread about nothing....
 
Ron Levy said:
And it's pronounced in the French fashion (Bom-bar-di-yea), not the English (bom-bar-deer), which further separates it from the military connotation.
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Right.
 
Ron Levy said:
Bombardier has been making and selling airliners for a couple of decades now, and as far as I can tell, nobody's bothered by the name of the widely used Bombardier CRJ200-900 series.
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And Lear jets & Q400's
 
No more negative connotation than Embraer (Jungle Jet).


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NoHeat said:
A few days ago, Bombardier flight-tested its second airliner, the CS300. Single ausle, 130 seats. It previously announced the CS100, with fewer seats.

I am wondering whether passengers will want to fly it, or avoid it because of the name. To me, Bombardier always makes me think of the bombardier officer in the nose of a WWII bomber, grasping a Norden bombsight before shouting "bombs away!" Younger people might just see the name and think of terrorist bombs.

So why do they use a brand name with the word "bomb" in it? And how many passengers will avoid it because of "bomb"?

Image here (sorry, can't embed using TapaTalk)
http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/b/ba/CSeries_back_from_first_flight.png
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If you think that name is a problem, what will passengers think of the "FlamingWreckage G300"?
 
NoHeat said:
Ask someone what engine they have, and they say Rotax, right? Not Bombardier?

So what one-word answer will the Bombardier CS-300 passenger hear and say?
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CS-300. Nobody says their flight was on a Boeing. They say 737, 747, etc.. When you're confined to a seat for hours, passengers tend to learn the models so they can avoid it next time.
 
paflyer said:
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Wrong. The French word originally meant a soldier who threw bombs. Absolutely the name has a connection to bombs in linguistics, just as much as it will in the mind of granny and bubba when they board an airliner, if they see that name.

Which is the reason I ask, by what brand will they call the Bombardier CS300 when it must be called something, like when the flight attendant gives a safety briefing?
 
NoHeat said:
Wrong. The French word originally meant a soldier who threw bombs. Absolutely the name has a connection to bombs in linguistics, just as much as it will in the mind of granny and bubba when they board an airliner, if they see that name.

Which is the reason I ask, by what brand will they call the Bombardier CS300 when it must be called something, like when the flight attendant gives a safety briefing?
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Probably Canadair as they do now.
 
NoHeat said:
I don't think the passenger sees or hears the word Bombardier anywhere, when flying on the CRJ. The safety card in the seat pocket just says CRJ, and the flight attendant 's briefing refers to "safety features on this Canada Regional Jet." At least that's what I recall as a passenger. The brand name that sticks in the passenger's mind is Canada, not Bomb-something. I'd guess that is purposeful.

But what can they say, to avoid saying "bomb," when telling you that you are on a Bombardier CS300? What word will stick in your mind, when you want a one-word label for the brand of plane that you are flying? "C Series" sounds too geeky. Bomb-something sounds too scary.
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Believe what you want. I'm done.
 
Ron Levy said:
And it's pronounced in the French fashion (Bom-bar-di-yea), not the English (bom-bar-deer), which further separates it from the military connotation.
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:confused: How so? They mean the same thing, and are used in the same context in both languages. In the French AF you would have likely been Bombardier.
 
As Cap'n Ron said, Bombardier has been manufacturing and flying their commercial jets for years, but most if not all airline passengers hear the name Canadair instead of Bombardier, as well as read the name Canadair on the brochure in their seatback pocket. Not sure how often the name Bombardier actually comes up. I dont think many passengers would be afraid of that name.
 
Ryanb said:
As Cap'n Ron said, Bombardier has been manufacturing and flying their commercial jets for years, but most if not all airline passengers hear the name Canadair instead of Bombardier, as well as read the name Canadair on the brochure in their seatback pocket. Not sure how often the name Bombardier actually comes up. I dont think many passengers would be afraid of that name.
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I often see the Bombardier logo as I'm getting on a flight, doesn't bother me in the slightest. I bet you can find it on the Safety Card as well.
 
Ron Levy said:
And it's pronounced in the French fashion (Bom-bar-di-yea), not the English (bom-bar-deer), which further separates it from the military connotation.
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And in the British Commonwealth, it does not have a direct "bomb" connotation. It's a military rank equivalent to corporal. They use "Bomb Aimer" as we use "Bombardier."

There's an indirect reference to explosives (the "Bombardier" rank is used in the artillery), and the term "Bomb" is used as a shorthand in conversation (e.g., like "Corp" or "Sarge").

Ron Wanttaja
 
Used to work for them back in Belfast, I think the mid section of the barrel is being manufactured there for both CSeries models.

We used to made wing sets for Fokker there was well pre Bombardier.
 
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So this discussion occurred a few years ago:

KAPC ground: "Arrow SA123, follow the bomb bard ee yey taxiing on the ramp to 18R"

SA123: "I see a big jet looking thing ahead of me."

KAPC ground: "Well then, follow the big jet looking thing."
 
JoseCuervo said:
Somebody is trying to make a thread about nothing....
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This.

I am pretty sure the vast majority of passengers who aren't pilots don't give a flying f*** about the manufacturer on the side of the plane.
 
Henning said:
I often see the Bombardier logo as I'm getting on a flight, doesn't bother me in the slightest. I bet you can find it on the Safety Card as well.
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Sure they have it written... but we all know that you can't say "bomb" on a plane.
 
Gucci Pilot said:
This.

I am pretty sure the vast majority of passengers who aren't pilots don't give a flying f*** about the manufacturer on the side of the plane.
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And most of them are probably completely unaware of who the manufacturer is.
 
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