Swampfox201
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Todd W.
Sounded like Alan Alda to me too. She did a wonderful job.
Someday, some with a quick wit will reply to "Say intentions" with "Survive this".Possible dinner table conversation:
Parent #1: I'm so proud of you, honey!
Parent #2: I TOLD you she shouldn't be in those dangerous little airplanes!
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It was good CRM by all those involved - keep her head clear so she could fly the plane, which she did very well. Come up with a plan, then work the plan. Remind her there's no need to panic, to land it like she's already done hundreds of times, no big deal.
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Actually, there's a certain phrase that always make me pause to think, and that's "say intentions". When tower said, "Hey, parts of your airplane are falling off, say intentions", I kind of figure that might have caused a little bit of a WTF moment, but she recovered well.
The problem is without the links, the wheel is also free to turn around the strut. One instance that occurred near here the link broken on landing and allowed the wheel to toe out about 30 degrees, making taxiing impossible. Probably almost better for it to fall off than wind up turned 90 degrees. Although it would be even better to see a SB or AD on the issue, but that hasn't happened that I know of. I know our local flight school does thorough inspections of all PA-28 gear during 100 hour and annuals, and has replaced several in the fleet that were cracked.
Is the failure something that can be seen during preflight?
Sounds like she did a great job, at least as good as many pilots would.
So in this situation what is the proper thing to do with the landing? Just standard landing on centerline as slow as possible? Land at a bit of an angle as I’d guess you’ll get pulled hard in the direction of the offed wheel?
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Actually, there's a certain phrase that always make me pause to think, and that's "say intentions". When tower said, "Hey, parts of your airplane are falling off, say intentions", I kind of figure that might have caused a little bit of a WTF moment, but she recovered well.
I wouldn't be surprised if the stump had less ground friction (on a pave runway) than a flat tire.It's a student pilot ... I've had stuff fail that I had a mechanic say was fine 30 minutes prior.
Imagine same as a flat, it's going to pull hard as your slowing ... so much so that it'll take FULL rudder and a TON of opposite brake. I've only had one flat, but it was on a rain slick runway, so I'm not sure if I caught a bit of a break/brake (pun intended).
Why couldn't they have her fly low over the runway and put another wheel on..??
And from the red board, "You picked a fine time to leave me, loose wheel." -FlyingRon
For those that think: "I have a fixed gear airplane so I never have to worry about the gear"
She did a great job,she flew again today.
Why couldn't they have her fly low over the runway and put another wheel on..??
For those that think: "I have a fixed gear airplane that is 50 freakin' years old so I should check the gear periodically."
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And here is Maggie, talking about the experience.
Wait, "Student pilot scare" as the headline?And here is Maggie, talking about the experience.
Reporter said first time solo ?
So is that plane totaled ?
Saw a news clip yesterday. There are a few mistakes in this thread: She has 60 hours and a plastic pilot certificate that she displayed to the camera; it was her first solo cross-country, not her first or second solo (hard to make that fit with having a certificate, right? That part is questionable). Good job by her and her instructor.
Bob
I looked her up on the FAA registry and she is listed as a student pilot, which she told the FAA. I don't know what they issue student pilots now, but if they don't issue plastic it might be her father's license she is holding up.Saw a news clip yesterday. There are a few mistakes in this thread: She has 60 hours and a plastic pilot certificate that she displayed to the camera; it was her first solo cross-country, not her first or second solo (hard to make that fit with having a certificate, right? That part is questionable). Good job by her and her instructor.
Bob
I looked her up on the FAA registry and she is listed as a student pilot, which she told the FAA. I don't know what they issue student pilots now, but if they don't issue plastic it might be her father's license she is holding up.
Is that sarcasm?And this is another good reason to use slips for crosswind correction rather than crab and kick...
No.Is that sarcasm?
Ok. Care to explain then?
Student pilots get plastic certificates now that the AMEs don't issue them. In a pinch, the FSDO can issue a paper temporary, but the way you're supposed to do is wait for the IACRA submission to cause your plastic one to be issued.Saw a news clip yesterday. There are a few mistakes in this thread: She has 60 hours and a plastic pilot certificate that she displayed to the camera; it was her first solo cross-country, not her first or second solo (hard to make that fit with having a certificate, right? That part is questionable). Good job by her and her instructor.
Bob
Ok. Care to explain then?