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All three corporate jobs I worked were roughly 70 also.
Per week.
So???
All three corporate jobs I worked were roughly 70 also.
Per week.
So?
Depends upon what industry you're in.
Why do people want to try to compare their jobs to that of an airline pilot?
Wasnt trying to...the other poster was just whining about not being paid for time away from home...
No try a little reading comprehension next time. The original poster was comparing how little I work for a huge hourly rate. I pointed out that his understanding of airline pay was incorrect.
If I was whining it would be about how I should be making more money for what I do.
Gone from home 270 hours this month, I'll let you do the math. Hopefully it is better than your eating comprehension.
Oh, and just a note...it's those guys who are away from their home base a helluva lot more than you are that pay for you.
Let me throw this question out there - is a strong middle class important ? Within the last 100 years in which decade(s) would you say we had the strongest middle class ? What was our international standing like during those times and what was our GDP ?
Thus it is manifest that the best political community is formed by citizens of the middle class, and that those states are likely to be well-administered, in which the middle class is large, and stronger if possible than both the other classes [poor and rich], or at any rate than either singly; for the addition of the middle class turns the scale, and prevents either of the extremes from being dominant. Great then is the good fortune of the state in which the citizens have a moderate and sufficient property; for where some possess much, and others nothing, there may arise an extreme democracy, or a pure oligarchy; or a tyranny may grow out of either extreme--either out of the most rampant democracy, or out of an oligarchy; but it is not likely to arise out of the middle constitutions and those akin to them. I will explain the reason of this hereafter, when I speak of the revolutions of states. The mean condition of states is clearly best, for no other is free from faction; and where the middle class is large, there are least likely to be factions and dissensions. For a similar reason large states are less liable to faction than small ones, because in them the middle class is large; whereas in small states it is easy to divide all the citizens into two classes who are either rich or poor, and to leave nothing in the middle. And democracies are safer and more permanent than oligarchies, because they have a middle class which is more numerous and has a greater share in the government; for when there is no middle class, and the poor greatly exceed in number, troubles arise, and the state soon comes to an end.
Boy, no kidding. I've spent at least two nights a week on the road in every career I've had for the last 30 years. And, on my last stint, I was gone all week, every week. Left home on Sunday evening, returned home on Friday evening. Did this every week for 8 years.
I took four weeks a year off, not one or two per month. But I owned my business so I had to be there.
Oh, and just a note...it's those guys who are away from their home base a helluva lot more than you are that pay for you.
Is that a sentence? I see your writhing skills are as good as your reading comprehension.
In any event, they get paid what they do based on supply and demand, and that is the American way, right?
Is that a sentence? I see your writhing skills are as good as your reading comprehension.
Seriously...stop whining about being away from home. It's neither unusual, nor is anyone else compensated for it.
Chronology is your friend. My quote most certainly does have it. People who know how to write don't rely on spell-check.Spell check is not always your friend, but I fixed it before you quoted it, so no one else has any idea what the hell you are talking about.
Let's go to the record shall we? (Oh, you can go edit this now and claim you never said it too...)Again, my third grade educated friend, where have I whined about my time away from home?
Yes pay for the month may be based on 70 hours, but the time away form base is a much larger number. When you use the time away from base, i.e. gone from home, your "real job" terms comes out to less than minimum wage for a regional first officer.
And added on some irrelevant whining about how you weren't paid for being away from home. I simply pointed out that nobody gets paid on that basis.Let me say it to you really slow for you once more. The original post had no idea how airline pilots are paid, I pointed out his error.
The day that happens is the day I never set foot in an airliner again.
Hmmmm....
All you need is a BA from two years in a community college and present yourself to a school district...
Out here the starting pay is 54,200 + signing bonus+great medical insurance+ great retirement+ housing allowance+ sick pay+ vacation +summers off = 8 month work year....
All ya got to do is lay low till tenure kicks in and coast for the remaining 21 years and retire in your early 50's for a 6 digit income, for the REST of your life....
In my life, I do not know of ANY teacher who left the golden goose nest to change jobs... and I mean NEVER....
Back to the subject.... Captains on the majors are well paid and earn their keep. The regional pilots are getting the royal shaft... Starting pay on a RJ right seat is something like 16 grand a year.. You can make that flippin burgers at Mc Donalds...
Ever notice the people who think the airline/aviation industry is different/unique in some way from all other industries, are the least willing to entertain the mere thought that their trials and tribulations might be no different than anyone else's.Ever notice the people that ***** and moan about airline pilots are not connected to the industry?
Ever notice the people who think the airline/aviation industry is different/unique in some way from all other industries, are the least willing to entertain the mere thought that their trials and tribulations might be no different than anyone else's.
Claiming "OH MY GOD, I HAVE TO BE ON THE ROAD FOR DAYS AT A TIME AND ONLY GET PAID WHILE I'M IN THE AIR" is soooo much different than the salesman who spends weeks on the road, and doesn't get paid at all if he doesn't close the sale.
You are the only tool that is saying this, I certainly am not, and I am in the airline industry.
Yes pay for the month may be based on 70 hours, but the time away form base is a much larger number. When you use the time away from base, i.e. gone from home, your "real job" terms comes out to less than minimum wage for a regional first officer.
You sound like a bitter Regional F/O
I'm betting it's Captain.
You sound like a bitter Regional F/O
...Ever wake up not knowing what country/city you're in?