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Pilawt

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There are little dramas on ATC frequencies every day. Sometimes we get to hear a chapter or two of a story, but then get handed off to another sector and miss the denouement. Such was the case this morning.

I was returning to Goodyear from a $100 pancake mission to Payson AZ, in perfect VFR weather. I was on flight following with PHX APC when I heard a Bombardier CL600 check in after takeoff from Scottsdale. Seconds later the voice from the jet told PHX, "We have to return to Scottsdale." PHX asked if he needed assistance; he said, "Not at the moment. We're running some checklists but we'd like to climb to 10,000 so we can get wi-fi and communicate with the company and figure out what to do."

The controller said he'd give him north-south legs to fly, north of the PHX Class B, at whatever altitude he needed. He asked the crew to let him know their status as soon as possible so he could get them sequenced back in to SDL.

It was about then that I was handed off to Luke Approach, and I didn't get to hear the rest of the story. It was kinda like leaving the ballgame in the second inning.

Curious, I checked Flightaware after I got home. Turns out the game had gone extra innings.

Flightaware showed that the CL600 was filed to Kona, Hawaii. Instead, it flew round and round in holding patterns north of Phoenix for three hours before it finally returned to SDL.

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There's nothing in the news about it, so the return must have been uneventful.

I'm guessing they had to burn off their trans-Pacific-sized load of fuel before they could land.

Glad it was a non-event.

The saw-tooth pattern of the groundspeed readout is probably the result of the wind aloft, and flying upwind, then downwind, then upwind, then downwind, etc.

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Wow that's interesting! Wonder what the issue was... I did my training out of KSDL. How was your flight to Payson? Nice and smooth? What route do you usually take?
 
Glad to see it turned out uneventful.

Rode in the back of a CL600 for about 3 hrs once doing a similar pattern. Flight Check...boring.:(
 
That is interesting. It looks like from the track the crew did a good job on their holding patterns :).
 
How was your flight to Payson? Nice and smooth? What route do you usually take?
It was very smooth this morning. Clear, calm, slightly hazy. Today was a lull in the monsoon, so it was quiet. Left GYR at 0700 and was back by 1000, before the thermals kicked in.

This was today's route, at 7500' eastbound and 6500' westbound. If it were a weekend with Luke closed, I'd take a more direct route up to the Lake Pleasant area. I'd still want to give the practice areas around DVT a wide berth, though.

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It was very smooth this morning. Clear, calm, slightly hazy. Today was a lull in the monsoon, so it was quiet. Left GYR at 0700 and was back by 1000, before the thermals kicked in.

This was today's route, at 7500' eastbound and 6500' westbound. If it were a weekend with Luke closed, I'd take a more direct route up to the Lake Pleasant area. I'd still want to give the practice areas around DVT a wide berth, though.

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Sweet! Thanks for sharing. It's been a while since I've been to Payson. Been debating between there and Sedona
 
Yup. BTDT in the BUFF. Many o flights early terminated, just like the one the OP profiled. No fuel dump (tankers) or fuel torch (F-111 et al), so it was Airbrakes 6, gear down, 250KIAS, and hours upon hours of holding at 40K#/hr FF :eek:.

That cured me from long-legged airplanes and long-haul flying. Gawd I don't miss that practice bleeding, not one bit. I'm a low-ASD/high-sortie-count kinda guy. As little time in the cancer altitudes as needed thank you very much. Rolling, and rating my nose of course, has always been my real motivation for getting into this so-called career. The day I can't do that, I'll hang it up.

I promise y'all though, if I ever get an RV, it won't have invasion stripes, I won't wear a helmet, and I won't call up initial for the overnugget with a vanity callsign like a washed up idiot. I will keep it standard and just come in with ATITPPA...you know, when in Rome.... :D
 
Yup. BTDT in the BUFF. Many o flights early terminated, just like the one the OP profiled. No fuel dump (tankers) or fuel torch (F-111 et al), so it was Airbrakes 6, gear down, 250KIAS, and hours upon hours of holding at 40K#/hr FF :eek:.

That cured me from long-legged airplanes and long-haul flying. Gawd I don't miss that practice bleeding, not one bit. I'm a low-ASD/high-sortie-count kinda guy. As little time in the cancer altitudes as needed thank you very much. Rolling, and rating my nose of course, has always been my real motivation for getting into this so-called career. The day I can't do that, I'll hang it up.

I promise y'all though, if I ever get an RV, it won't have invasion stripes, I won't wear a helmet, and I won't call up initial for the overnugget with a vanity callsign like a washed up idiot. I will keep it standard and just come in with ATITPPA...you know, when in Rome.... :D

Did over 6 hrs of holding flying C2 in a 60 once...in a 2 Km pattern. Some of it was sweating my nuts off in MOPP IV. Oh I had to pee when we landed. C2 sucks! :(
 
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Did you try looking for more of the conversation on liveatc?
The feed ("KPHX-App-Satellite-Jul-26-2017-1630Z.mp3") scans among various PHX TRACON sectors, so you only get bits and pieces. The beginning of it is at the 2:20 mark; more at 4:50. I left the party at 9:50, then at 16:20 8RS tells PHX it was "basically a failure of one of our anti-ice systems." At 27:30 he's handed off to ZAB so he can hold in Center's airspace. The liveatc feed on the Center frequency only records the controller; transmissions from the airplane can't be heard.
 
Technically it was a challenger 604 according to the photos of the aircraft. Not sure if it makes a difference. I don't think I've ever seen a straight 600.
 
Technically it was a challenger 604 according to the photos of the aircraft. Not sure if it makes a difference. I don't think I've ever seen a straight 600.
I'm not a bizjet expert ... FAA registration just says "CL-600-2B16".

Adding insult to injury, at one point PHX APC called him "Citation 8 Romeo Sierra ... "

;)
 
Technically it was a challenger 604 according to the photos of the aircraft. Not sure if it makes a difference. I don't think I've ever seen a straight 600.

Technically that is a street name and they are not stamped on the fireproof data plate, it is a CL600-2B16 just like the 650s built recently and the 604s built years ago. Same goes for many airplanes like the Citation 560XLS and 560XLS+, they are all just a Cessna 560XL per the data plate. Citation Encore is just a Cessna 560. Citation X is really a Cessna 750.

It gets confusing with the Gulfstream SP branding which is an Israel Aicraft Incorporated Astra SPX, called the Gulfstream G100. Certain serial numbers of IAI Astra SPX could be "converted" to the G100 via service bulletin.
 
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Technically that is a street name and they are not stamped on the fireproof data plate, it is a CL600-2B16 just like the 650s built recently and the 604s built years ago. Same goes for many airplanes like the Citation 560XLS and 560XLS+, they are all just a Cessna 560XL per the data plate. Citation Encore is just a Cessna 560. Citation X is really a Cessna 750.

It gets confusing with the Gulfstream SP branding which is an Israel Aicraft Incorporated Astra SPX, called the Gulfstream G100. Certain serial numbers of IAI Astra SPX could be "converted" to the G100 via service bulletin.
I know, I just looked at picture and wanted to let the OP know which challenger it is.
 
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