1977 182Q

My thoughts:

- Doesn't the Q have the O470U higher compression engine? Plusses and minuses there. No mogas STC. Higher TBO.

- Will need an interior job eventually. That red interior always made me go ewww but that one isn't in awful shape.

- Cessna 2 axis A/P is worthless. Ballast.
- ADF is headed for worthless. Ballast.
- Cessna transponder will need updated for ADS-B, same as ours. Almost ballast.
- Why is the DME all the way over there on the right under the transponder. Neither are in their "usual" locations and you'll want it in the stack for IFR.
- Apollo 618 LORAN useless. They even tried to hide the VFR only placard in the shot of the left side of the panel by getting the angle just right with the top of the glare shield. Ballast.

- Pet peeve. The damn VSI showing a 100 fpm descent on the ground is a five minute fix with a damned screwdriver. Grrrr.

- That wire running into the baggage compartment is a battery charging cable. Is it on that all the time or ...? I'd want that battery pulled and load tested.

- Where's the nose wheel pant? You may want them on or off, but a mix like that usually means one was damaged. They're not cheap to replace.

- Seatbelts don't look original. What's up with that? Most folks replace those with BAS if they have to replace them.

- Has it had the Cessna inertia reel seat stop work done to the pilot's seat (free from Cessna). (Kinda leads to whether or not anyone has been paying any attention to it.)

- Check that Sigtronics EGT is legally installed.

- What the hell is the guarded missile launch switch for that's down on the left side of the pedestal? LOL

- Can't read what the light or button is for between the turn and bank and the DG. No big deal but what is it?

- Davtron DVOR head down low there is interesting. Again not a big deal.

Basically depending on a solid pre-buy, a decent airplane that needs $35K to bring it up to modern standards on the panel. The new engine is worth something, as is the reman prop, but...

I think it's priced way high.

Someone posted a similar 182 here last week at slightly higher total time and a 2/3s used up engine and panel that needed as much work, for $65K.

I could make a case without the logs for $90K for that airplane, maybe. $95 with a new interior. Sky is the limit with a new panel and modern avionics. Or a real A/P.

And anything found wrong in the airframe would come down from there.
 
Finally got a break this afternoon …

Great comments.

Henning, Alex, James:
I'd use the plane to get to a CFII but that's about as far as I'm going - primarily to help friends with currency training and to get the experience - no commercial work planned. I don't care too much about the insurance - liability alone is fine. As for taking a bath on the upgrade - I didn’t realize that. Truth is “Princess” said she would “try” flying with me when I got to 200 hrs with an instrument rating. There on the rating, close on the time.

And I prefer injected engines …

Denver:
Thanks for ripping the panel apart. Lots of good information there. (guarded missile launch switch - split my sides laughing). I’ll ask ‘em when they reply to the inquiry.
 
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Finally got a break this afternoon …

Great comments.

Henning, Alex, James:
I'd use the plane to get to a CFII but that's about as far as I'm going - primarily to help friends with currency training and to get the experience - no commercial work planned. I don't care much too about much about the insurance - liability alone is fine. As for taking a bath on the upgrade - I didn’t realize that. Truth is “Princess” said she would “try” flying with me when I got to 200 hrs with an instrument rating. There on the rating, close on the time.

And I prefer injected engines …

Denver:
Thanks for ripping the panel apart. Lots of good information there. (guarded missile launch switch - split my sides laughing). I’ll ask ‘em when they reply to the inquiry.

Sounds like you got a good handle on it.

If you want injected and instruments you really don't want that 182.

There are some upgrades that are fea$ible, upholstry, lights, BAS belts etc, a panel upgrade IS NOT on that list, nor is a fuel injection / engine conversion on a non-runout priced plane.

Plenty of fish in the sea, I'd keep fishing :)
 
Finally got a break this afternoon …

Great comments.

Henning, Alex, James:
I'd use the plane to get to a CFII but that's about as far as I'm going - primarily to help friends with currency training and to get the experience - no commercial work planned. I don't care much too about much about the insurance - liability alone is fine. As for taking a bath on the upgrade - I didn’t realize that. Truth is “Princess” said she would “try” flying with me when I got to 200 hrs with an instrument rating. There on the rating, close on the time.

And I prefer injected engines …

Denver:
Thanks for ripping the panel apart. Lots of good information there. (guarded missile launch switch - split my sides laughing). I’ll ask ‘em when they reply to the inquiry.


With those objectives in mind, buy the latest model SR-20 you can afford. By the time you have your CFII in it, you will know it very well, and Cirrus instruction comes with a premium, plus you can provide transition training to the only growing market in GA.

With a CFII in an SR-20 you have yourself set up to market well and maybe even realize an income from it.
 
With those objectives in mind, buy the latest model SR-20 you can afford. By the time you have your CFII in it, you will know it very well, and Cirrus instruction comes with a premium, plus you can provide transition training to the only growing market in GA.



With a CFII in an SR-20 you have yourself set up to market well and maybe even realize an income from it.


He's got a point here. Really.

The people flying Cirri already have a higher expectation of price, and I think he might be right about CFI fees, at least in Cirrus type-clubs.

If you're good at memorizing stupid minutiae about various types of avionics, and teaching buttonology, you're going to do well teaching in a Cirrus.

But technically you can get the CFII in something else a lot cheaper and then transition. The benefit would be if you know there's a Cirrus or three being rented nearby and there's a job opening at the school/club. You'd be a shoe in.
 
While anyone can transition into any plane in a couple of hours, it takes 100 hrs in a plane to 'know' it. This is proven out at every insurance company.
 
Finally got a break this afternoon …

Great comments.

Henning, Alex, James:
I'd use the plane to get to a CFII but that's about as far as I'm going - primarily to help friends with currency training and to get the experience - no commercial work planned. I don't care too much about the insurance - liability alone is fine. As for taking a bath on the upgrade - I didn’t realize that. Truth is “Princess” said she would “try” flying with me when I got to 200 hrs with an instrument rating. There on the rating, close on the time.

And I prefer injected engines …

Denver:
Thanks for ripping the panel apart. Lots of good information there. (guarded missile launch switch - split my sides laughing). I’ll ask ‘em when they reply to the inquiry.[/QUOTE
FYI the red switch is alternate radio master
 
New engine and low time, but it seems a bit pricy for a 182 with original interior, paint, and outdated avionics. If it had a run-out engine you'd be looking at a $60k specimen, based on presumed condition and TT. That values the new engine at $55k. Could be a good candidate for an spinner to tail makeover, but you'll want to negotiate accordingly.

100% agreed. And with such low time, you need a good inspection on the airframe. It may be pristine if properly stored in a dry climate, but my guess is you're going to find a lot of hoses (fuel lines, brake lines from the toe brakes to the master cylinders, maybe pitot-static lines) that need replacing.

You need to see the logs--all of them. When did it last fly? (I think that's why it has a factory new engine). That's an expensive engine. ;-)
 
That one doesn't sound totally out of line, but FL plane - hangared or not, corrosion potential there. Probably priced 10% too high.

Ad says he bought it from the original owner in Atlanta, it would be worth looking at if I was in the market. Besides its in Destin and it would be a good excuse to get some seafood! :D
 
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