Truman collision

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Late at night, crowded anchorage, Truman not broadcasting ADSB AIS. This guy (as usual with all things maritime) explains it well:

 
Jim K said:
Late at night, crowded anchorage, Truman not broadcasting ADSB AIS. This guy (as usual with all things maritime) explains it well:

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Wonder if they weren't squawking on purpose or someone forgot to push the button
 
luvflyin said:
Wonder if they weren't squawking on purpose or someone forgot to push the button
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From the video, they were supposed to be. After the collision, they turned it on...

Possible they had it off due to the attacks on ships in the region. I think those are all on the other end of the canal, but maybe they didn't want it so obvious when they entered.
 
All these ships have radar so even if AIS is turned off they should have seen each other.
 
This is extremely worrisome. What if some jihadi put some large conventional weapons, or heaven forbid, a suitcase nookie, the bad guys could have taken out a CVN carrier. I didn't think we let anyone within a few miles of a carrier, but I guess that's not possible with something like the Suez canal.
 
LesGawlik said:
This is extremely worrisome. What if some jihadi put some large conventional weapons, or heaven forbid, a suitcase nookie, the bad guys could have taken out a CVN carrier. I didn't think we let anyone within a few miles of a carrier, but I guess that's not possible with something like the Suez canal.
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It boggles my mind that we let a ship get inside the protective ring of the fleet let alone hit a carrier. That ship should be at the bottom of the ocean.
 
Salty said:
It boggles my mind that we let a ship get inside the protective ring of the fleet let alone hit a carrier. That ship should be at the bottom of the ocean.
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The video I saw yesterday showed tracks from a carrier escort but not the carrier. I always thought that any carrier, doing anything, would have more than one escort. Maybe that ship was the only one pinging for the whole group. But if there was any sort of battle group, you do raise a big question, “How does anyone get that close?”, even if it was determined to be a friendly.
 
Salty said:
It boggles my mind that we let a ship get inside the protective ring of the fleet let alone hit a carrier. That ship should be at the bottom of the ocean.
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There's no preference in the international maritime rules for US warships in peacetime. The question is why the carrier group was improperly crossing in front of a privileged vessel entering a traffic management area.
 
flyingron said:
There's no preference in the international maritime rules for US warships in peacetime. The question is why the carrier group was improperly crossing in front of a privileged vessel entering a traffic management area.
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Well it’s good to know that our enemies can take out at least one carrier before we’ll do anything, presuming we declare war before they try again.

Sorry, I do not agree to those terms.
 
I was a surface warfare officer before getting a aviation slot…

I got nothing. This CLEARLY shouldn’t have happened. It will be interesting to learn how it did anyway.

Unless it was deliberate on the part of the other ship or the Truman had some massive casualty, this lies squarely on the Truman’s shoulders.
 
Tools said:
I was a surface warfare officer...
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I knew there was something off about you! ;)

I recall a CVN transit some years ago through active waters in the IndoPacific region. We had helos warning (and occasionally bumping) light craft away from the carrier. Then a ferry decided that he was going to try cut in front of our bow, from left to right. It quickly became evident that he couldn't make it without getting run over, so he hung a hard right and ended up going opposite direction down the left side of the CVN, probably less than 100ft away. The passengers couldn't believe their luck, all piling over to the side of the ferry to take pictures and wave at us, nearly capsizing their boat. All the while the ferry is on the business end of several 50 cal automatic weapons and the 1MC is blaring "Do not fire your weapons! These people are not our enemy!" The ferry hung a left at our stern and proceeded on its way, the passengers continuing to wave and cheer.

I guess there are some folks who think that the boat could have been a terrible threat to the CVN and should have been fired upon, on the off-chance it was loaded with explosives. On the other hand, hosing down a boat full of waving, smiling civilians is not something any of us were willing to contemplate. Had they hit us, the skipper probably would have been packing his bags. But it was definitely the right call for us to smile and wave back, with no harm done.

Good times.
 
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