Executive orders & MOSAIC

[Michael Gallagher]

Definitely worried that the executive orders (to halt new federal rules from going into effect until Trump Admin appointees can review them).will delay or kill MOSAIC. This thing has been taking forever and now perhaps even longer!

But perhaps the mandatory return to work for federal employees will speed up the process (note desperate sarcasm).

I was really hoping Oshkosh was going to be the moment MOSAIC came to fruition.

 

[RyanShort1]

So, let's start lobbying the new Sec. of Transportation about it! If a ton of pilots - especially conservative ones, speak up and make their voices heard, perhaps it will make a difference.

 

[Greg Bockelman]

Why should political leanings have anything to do with it?

 

[wanttaja]

Why should political leanings have anything to do with it?

Indeed. Two questions, here.

1. Why should the new administration implement a policy designed by the previous one?

2. Who in the new administration has a background in GA...other than as a passenger in an private jet?

It's possible #1 alone will make MOSAIC anathema to the new administration.

Ron Wanttaja

 

[Greg Bockelman]

My point was: Why should the political leanings OF THE PILOTS have anything to do with it? Shouldn’t this be an issue for ALL pilots regardless of political leanings?

FYI, Sam Graves, a Representative from Missouri is a Champion of GA. I am sure he, at least, is on our side of this issue.

 

[Dana]

Although the part of MOSAIC that we care about is that it opens up more planes for Sport Pilots, most of the proposal is on the aircraft certification side: the changes are to reduce the regulatory burden of certifying new light-sport aircraft and turn the certification work over to private industry groups like ASTM instead of government bureaucrats. Even if it's a "new regulation", it should be in line with DOGE's stated goals... though how it will actually play out is anybody's guess. Now would be a good time to pitch it that way to the incoming administration.

 

[Warmi]

Indeed. Two questions, here.

1. Why should the new administration implement a policy designed by the previous one?

2. Who in the new administration has a background in GA...other than as a passenger in an private jet?

It's possible #1 alone will make MOSAIC anathema to the new administration.

Ron Wanttaja

Mosaic is actually one of a rather few federal legislations which actually relaxes rules and provides more freedom, overall lessening bureaucratic reach and control - should be right down their alley ….

 

[Beachy]

Makes me glad I purchased my Ercoupe when I did - instead of waiting for MOSAIC so I could shop a larger variety.

 

[Cap'n Jack]

Mosaic is actually one of a rather few federal legislations which actually relaxes rules and provides more freedom, overall lessening bureaucratic reach and control - should be right down their alley ….

Although the part of MOSAIC that we care about is that it opens up more planes for Sport Pilots, most of the proposal is on the aircraft certification side: the changes are to reduce the regulatory burden of certifying new light-sport aircraft and turn the certification work over to private industry groups like ASTM instead of government bureaucrats. Even if it's a "new regulation", it should be in line with DOGE's stated goals... though how it will actually play out is anybody's guess. Now would be a good time to pitch it that way to the incoming administration.

I think this may be the best way to pitch it. Also, make it seem like it was their idea.

I've found, at work, that I can get my ideas implemented by building them and leaving them on the bench to be discovered by a manager, who takes credit for it. My colleagues get a good laugh out of it. Politicians are the same way.

Jack
Who grows too soon old and too late smart
(and apologies to @nauga )

 

[Baked Potato]

But perhaps the mandatory return to work for federal employees will speed up the process

The objective of the mandatory return to office (ftfy) is to reduce the number of federal employees by attrition, not to get them to get more work done.

 

[Cap'n Jack]

The objective of the mandatory return to office (ftfy) is to reduce the number of federal employees by attrition, not to get them to get more work done.

Perhaps so, but please, lets keep this about convincing the powers-that-be to implement MOSAIC rather than discuss their motives for doing something. Unless such discussion will help implement MOASIC.

 

[Warmi]

The objective of the mandatory return to office (ftfy) is to reduce the number of federal employees by attrition, not to get them to get more work done.

The fact that is their ultimate objective , actually tell us a lot about federal workers and their work ethic …

 

[Baked Potato]

The fact that is their ultimate objective , actually tell us a lot about federal workers and their work ethic …

I certainly don't want to go back to an office 5 days per week. My quality of life is so much higher now. It has nothing to do with my work ethic, and more to do with the fact that I can see my kid off to school and see him get home, and can take a lunchtime walk with my wife. And not to mention the two hours per day wasted commuting that I have back. There's no reason for an immediate RTO order for all five work days except for punishment.

And it's telling that it has nothing to do with the work ethic of federal workers since there are tons of private jobs that are fully remote, with talent retainment as one of the universally-stated objectives. It's seen as a benefit for private and government alike.

If my agency ends up making me go in five days per week, I'm finding a job in private sector. My work ethic won't be affected.

 

[MountainDude]

Again, if AOPA actually cares about GA, this is an opportune time to improve it in a big way.
However, with their high salaries and focus on self-entertainment, I will not hold my breath.
How sad for us.

 

[455 Bravo Uniform]

Had Mosaic been published in the Federal Register yet? If yes, then it’s a go; if not, it’s on hold and will need to undergo review.

 

[SebIp]

As long as they don't confuse you folks petition as one for bringing back Roman decorative art.. that would be an interesting outcome LOL.

 

[Bell206]

Had Mosaic been published in the Federal Register yet?

It has been published in the Register as an NPRM with the comment period extended. So its in the system. But since MOSAIC got partly its start from the old Primary Non-Commercial effort, it has more going for it than most aviation rule proposals. I think it will survive and end up including some the PN-C attributes especially on the maintenance side. With changing of the guard and a reset at the core of how things work, I think once people get back to work MOSAIC will be one of the 1st items out the gate.

 

[hindsight2020]

If my agency ends up making me go in five days per week, I'm finding a job in private sector. My work ethic won't be affected.

Depends on the age. Most vested with more than a decade, are probably FERS golden-handcuffed and will go back, if kicking and screaming, to the dreaded office. It really depends how replaceable their salary level is. TSA GS-5s, sure that's burger king money. But GS-13s step whatevers and SESs in this economy? yeah those are probably not going anywhere.

It's also geo-dependent. You can see more willingness to quit with the NoVA types. Those have enough pork barrel around the swamp to "consult" or whatever other sophistry they rent-seek with. People in OKC or midwestern FSDOs by comparison don't have that leverage.

They have floated moving many Federal positions to proverbial Eastern NM because they know NoVa critters won't uproot their families to that; divorces would ensue. The military enacts similar passive aggressive antics; they call it "force shaping". I'm actually a casualty of that handcuffing, though marrying a resilient veteran the second time helped me keep my family intact in the latest round. My first marriage didn't. I believe her words, screamed by the way, were: "no Minot, no Laughlin. Not now, not Ever!" And then she told me she didn't love me anymore. I can report she in fact did not, "thank me for my service". Username checks.

 

[Warmi]

I certainly don't want to go back to an office 5 days per week. My quality of life is so much higher now. It has nothing to do with my work ethic, and more to do with the fact that I can see my kid off to school and see him get home, and can take a lunchtime walk with my wife. And not to mention the two hours per day wasted commuting that I have back. There's no reason for an immediate RTO order for all five work days except for punishment.

And it's telling that it has nothing to do with the work ethic of federal workers since there are tons of private jobs that are fully remote, with talent retainment as one of the universally-stated objectives. It's seen as a benefit for private and government alike.

If my agency ends up making me go in five days per week, I'm finding a job in private sector. My work ethic won't be affected.

Thats my point - you end up with distractions that , while contributing to your quality of life , do end up diluting your working time because , while at home, it takes 100% dedication and basically perfect work ethic to generate the same output that you get in the office for free simply because of the virtue of not having any choice in the matter.
In other words, while this arrangement works for small number of workaholics , most people cannot keep up that kind of discipline.

 

[idahoflier]

Probably too early to tell if MOASIC will be impacted. But hey, at least the FAA published the Powered-Lift SFAR in time!

 

[Baked Potato]

Thats my point - you end up with distractions that , while contributing to your quality of life , do end up diluting your working time because , while at home, it takes 100% dedication and basically perfect work ethic to generate the same output that you get in the office for free simply because of the virtue of not having any choice in the matter.
In other words, while this arrangement works for small number of workaholics , most people cannot keep up that kind of discipline.

This doesn't make any sense to me. Stepping away from my desk for five minutes to see my kid out the door makes me a less effective employee? Not a chance.

I support IT systems; I'm not mining coal.

 

[flyingron]

Regulation moratoriums have happened before. They're nothing but momentary speedbumps.

 

[bentmettle]

while at home, it takes 100% dedication and basically perfect work ethic to generate the same output that you get in the office for free simply because of the virtue of not having any choice in the matter.
In other words, while this arrangement works for small number of workaholics , most people cannot keep up that kind of discipline.

Which office do you work in that doesn't have March Madness pools, SuperBowl, college sports, Facebook, and myriad of other grab ass adjacent games?

 

[RyanShort1]

My point was: Why should the political leanings OF THE PILOTS have anything to do with it? Shouldn’t this be an issue for ALL pilots regardless of political leanings?

FYI, Sam Graves, a Representative from Missouri is a Champion of GA. I am sure he, at least, is on our side of this issue.

Oh, I totally agree, but human nature is what it is, and if those who the new administration understand clearly that those who voted for them desire for them to not hold up the process, it's more likely to see daylight sooner. The new administration so far doesn't appear to be interested in wasting time on stuff that they feel they need to do to fulfill promises to their voters.

Wasn't meant to start a partisan conversation.

 

[AV8R_87]

In other words, while this arrangement works for small number of workaholics , most people cannot keep up that kind of discipline.

Most people working from home appreciate the improved QoL and are willing to go the extra mile to preserve it. During an 8-hour workday in the office there's easily 2 hours of lost productivity to idle chit-chat, betting pools, sports talk, drama and so on. People distracted for 15 minutes in their home office will (most often than not) keep track of that and make up that lost time. In the office, you're out at 4pm to beat the rush hour traffic, no matter how many hours were spent by the water cooler that day.
A friend has been recently impacted by one of those "get back in the office" edicts. His productivity is down because he comes to office after spending 45 minutes in a miserable commute, can't stay late because he needs to beat the rush hour traffic, gets sick on a monthly basis because most people have no concept of hygiene anymore and gets interrupted by another disgruntled office re-transplant every 30 minutes.

 

[Roller]

Hopefully it will at least be easier to call a FSDO and get a ASI on the phone now

 

[wanttaja]

Mosaic is actually one of a rather few federal legislations which actually relaxes rules and provides more freedom, overall lessening bureaucratic reach and control - should be right down their alley ….

The trouble is, it doesn't eliminate rules...some are just changes (which might get by) but others will require new regulations. Yes, they're simplified, but it STILL requires a new reg. Which, if the federal bureaucracy is placed in a "Eliminate two regulations to enact one new one" bind, they're going to have to look at things they can stand to eliminate.

Included in the NPRM was a draft of 14CFR Part 22, "Design, Production, and Airworthiness Requirements for Non-Type Certificated Aircraft." As far as I can tell, this is an *entirely new section*. Twenty new regulations that cover the redefined Light Sport Aircraft. Which forty will the FAA sacrifice to allow this one to proceed?

It may be that they can tweak existing regulations to get around the two for one policy...but that means spending more effort to re-write the existing regulations. Which means more delay.

Ron Wanttaja

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[Racerx]

I've seen some people speculate this could put any piper forthcoming spar AD on hold.