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camorton said:
Anyone got a pirep on these guys? I'm buying, not selling.

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C.
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They sold me a plane with a bad engine. Will do nothing to help out with the $30k to fix it ! Buyer beware !
 
Sold me a plane with a bad engine . Will do nothing to help with the $30k repair !
Buyer beware!
 
Mrcal said:
They sold me a plane with a bad engine. Will do nothing to help out with the $30k to fix it ! Buyer beware !
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Which airplane did you buy? Sorry to hear that!
 
One cylinder was lower than the rest . I was assured nothing to worry about.
 
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Said they’re not responsible since they didn’t own the plane
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I mistakenly thought if you bought a lemon through a reputable company they would help with this kind of situation.
 
Mrcal said:
I mistakenly thought if you bought a lemon through a reputable company they would help with this kind of situation.
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Wouldn’t even spend a dime of their commission
 
Posts that were necroposted to a year old thread on this subject have been moved to those in this thread.
 
Maybe it's just me, but if I saw a Rotax 912 with any cylinder more than a PSI or two off of perfect, I'd really want to understand the cause. Ours is at 1K hours, uses maybe half a pint or so of oil in 100 hours (and I'm pretty sure that's all leaked, not burned) and have never had a cylinder score any worse than 79/80, every year.

Sorry you got screwed on the deal. I'm sure there is a written agreement between you and the broker spelling out exactly what they do and don't do/cover/pay for; if you didn't read that or expected them to do anything they didn't agree to do in writing... well... every lesson learned carries a tuition payment.
 
They sold my 172G late in the peak market during Covid and got top dollar. They did an inspection before listing it and called me to say a cylinder was not making spec. I sent them a new jug I had on the shelf and they installed it for a very reasonable cost. I'm due east of them about 100 NMs and they came and flew the bird away. At least as a seller they (Mark and Pat??) were great to deal with.

Another friend traded his 152 for a 182 and after getting past a few initial gremlins has been flying and upgrading it quite a bit with excellent results. Caveat emptor and all that.
 
I just bought a plane brokered by them last week. I had a good experience overall, and I would consider buying from them again. Everything from the pre-buy to the delivery of my aircraft was really easy to set up.
 
Define lower than the rest. When did you buy it? When did you find out it needs work? What exactly is wrong with it? They're a broker and it sounds like you used the brokers a&p for the pre buy?
 
Mrcal said:
They sold me a plane with a bad engine. Will do nothing to help out with the $30k to fix it ! Buyer beware !
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I bought my Ovation 3 from them in May. I did not have their shop in Anderson do the pre buy ( as they had done the last few annuals) but I did have them fix a couple of minor squawks. Nothing but a positive experience at IndyAir. At the end of the day, you, as the buyer are responsible for getting your potential purchase inspected, not the broker.

I would buy from them again.
 
unfortunately, this is a risk we all take, i paid for an annual instead of a prebuy just to give myself the best shot and successful purchase
 
The value of a compression test (if that's the issue) has been discussed at length, and is not necessarily all that meaningful.

www.aopa.org

Opinion: Unbelievable compression

Each annual inspection begins with a moment of terror when the IA removes the top spark plugs and takes a compression reading of each cylinder. We hold our breath awaiting the verdict.
www.aopa.org

What are the details of 'with a bad engine' ?
 
I’ve worked with Indyair before and I found them to be very helpful, they arranged a test pilot to allow me to fly the airplane, and were friendly the entire way. I ended up not purchasing the airplane due to some scares with an AD but I have recommended them to others who have purchased through them and I am on their email list. They usually have great offerings.

For your airplane, you need your mechanic to do the prebuy, as one mechanic will say this engine is good for 3000 hours TBO and the other will say 1200 hours TBO since it’s been 12 years or whatever. The opinions are subjective. Did the aircraft fly, does it have corrosion or been sitting and not flying for years, or high time and everything is ready to break, all accessories new or old? My mechanic won’t recommend any RVs on the second hand market because you don’t know who built them. That’s his opinion. Therefore if I want an RV I might need to find a mechanic who loves them.
 
Rotax 912 are different than Lyc or Cont. They are close tolerance engines. The service manual originaly spec’d diff comp tests using 87 psi (6 bar) as the reference, with .040” orfice and warm engine. Then, eventually Rotax made the change to 80 psi reference, primarily due to long standing convention with Lyc and Cont procedures. A Rotax 912 with a reading of less than 78/80, or 85/87, would be an alert for potential problems. It could be that the mechanic that did the inspection did not understand Rotax nuances, and the difference between Rotax and Lyc/Cont in terms of interpreting comp test results. As always, check the most recent factory service manual, as posted on Rotax web site.
 
What exactly is wrong with the engine, just using oil or oil filter full of metal and no oil pressure?
 
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