Hangar prices.

midwestpa24 said:
Basic Erect-A-Tube hangars. Steel frame, 43 foot wide doors, 14 foot high. Basic lights and outlets, no heat or insulation, concrete floors.
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I'm always in awe of how hangar costs seem to dwarf a typical steel building or pole barn with concrete floor. You can build a 40x60 barn with concrete, basic 100A electric panel, and insulation for well under $80K. I do understand that the bifold/cantilever door costs are astronomical though.
 
SoonerAviator said:
I'm always in awe of how hangar costs seem to dwarf a typical steel building or pole barn with concrete floor. You can build a 40x60 barn with concrete, basic 100A electric panel, and insulation for well under $80K. I do understand that the bifold/cantilever door costs are astronomical though.
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I think it's the equivalent of getting a screwdriver from Lowe's vs Sportys.
Contractor sees hangar, and jacks up the price. I don't think hangar doors run 80k.
 
SoonerAviator said:
I'm always in awe of how hangar costs seem to dwarf a typical steel building or pole barn with concrete floor. You can build a 40x60 barn with concrete, basic 100A electric panel, and insulation for well under $80K. I do understand that the bifold/cantilever door costs are astronomical though.
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Some of that may be the government rate. Contractors are known to mark up their cost just for the additional paperwork and headaches associated with government jobs.

Our airport also recently built a 64x48 pole barn for airport maintenance, concrete floor, basic electrical, no heat or insulation, single overhead door, $180k. Maybe its cheaper in OK than IA? Does OK have any more trees than IA? I don't recall seeing any on my trips through. ;)
 
EdFred said:
I don't think hangar doors run 80k.
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They can. I've seen it firsthand. Depends on the size, type, etc. I recently had a client purchase a hangar from me and they wanted to replace the door. They received a $60K quote to replace it with an electric, bi-fold, insulated door. PS - It's not as easy as just replacing them. They have to be calibrated as well.
 
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midwestpa24 said:
Some of that may be the government rate. Contractors are known to mark up their cost just for the additional paperwork and headaches associated with government jobs.

Our airport also recently built a 64x48 pole barn for airport maintenance, concrete floor, basic electrical, no heat or insulation, single overhead door, $180k. Maybe its cheaper in OK than IA? Does OK have any more trees than IA? I don't recall seeing any on my trips through. ;)
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You must have been in West or Central OK, lol. The Eastern third is pretty "green" with trees and lakes. I'm sure a lot of it is the contractor giving the "rich airplane owner price" rather than the "rural homesteader price".
 
Flocker said:
They can. I've seen it firsthand. Depends on the size, type, etc. I recently had a client purchase a hangar from me and they wanted to replace the door. We received a $60K quote to replace it with an electric, bi-fold, insulated door. PS - It's not as easy as just replacing them. They have to be calibrated as well.
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What size door though? I can see a 100' or more door running that. A 44' one though??
 
donjohnston said:
You're kidding!!! I think that I was paying $300 a month 10 years ago!

Wonder how long the waiting list is.
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Inflation hasn't hit that part of Illinois yet :D

Not sure on the wait-list but given how busy I hear it on the radio sometimes, I'd guess they're not hurting for tenants...
 
ArrowFlyer86 said:
Inflation hasn't hit that part of Illinois yet :D

Not sure on the wait-list but given how busy I hear it on the radio sometimes, I'd guess they're not hurting for tenants...
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I beg to differ on the inflation front.

3ck is busy and it's not all because of the flight school. I think it hits that happy medium of nice airport and just the right distance away from the city. 10c is pretty busy when you compare location and 2800x36 runway. But it's definitely not like 3ck
 
Started out at $185 few years ago for a T-Hangar at KGDK (formerly I19) and now at $205. Everybody pays the same for the same type hangar. Month to month type deal. Typical rate for around the Dayton area +- $25 or so.
 
X3 Skier said:
Started out at $185 few years ago for a T-Hangar at KGDK (formerly I19) and now at $205. Everybody pays the same for the same type hangar. Month to month type deal. Typical rate for around the Dayton area +- $25 or so.
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And that’s a nice airport. It also works well for my turn point when flying to Fayette County for gas at $5.30 per gallon.
 
Racerx said:
Being in the steel fab industry...I don't see where that cost is. That's nucking futs for what they are.
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Keep in mind that is labor and materials and I don't have a breakdown. There was also a requirement for a 3 hour rated firewall to split the building for fire code, so some studding, sheet work, and finishing. Also footings and concrete for the entire building.

But I do concur, a lot of money for some simple hangars.
 
Meet someone today paying 700 per month in the NYC region for bi fold door , electricity .
 
midwestpa24 said:
Keep in mind that is labor and materials and I don't have a breakdown. There was also a requirement for a 3 hour rated firewall to split the building for fire code, so some studding, sheet work, and finishing. Also footings and concrete for the entire building.

But I do concur, a lot of money for some simple hangars.
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My 10,000 sq ft 25' tall commercial building with 7 overhead doors, insulated metal panels, 8' foundation walls, 6" slab floor, sprinklers, sprinkler backup, septic field, water detention, etc was 1.7m.
 
I just looked. Locally, storage space is about 91 cents per sqft per month. Hangar space is about 83 cents.
 
frfly172 said:
Prices in Florida have gone crazy high. There are not many hangars available,the price for a group hangar in a busy airport ,have tripled in the last two years. Check out Srq you’ll be shocked.
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I'm on the SRQ waitlist, when I got on and saw it was ~$500 a month for basic T hangar I honestly expected it to be much more. Wealthy area, busy class C with airline ops, long waitlist. Greater Boston area is much worse.
 
Bob Noel said:
At KBED the T-hangars had a range of prices based on things like sliding door, bi-fold door. Back in 2006 there was one (maybe two) T-hangars that were heated (and cost quite a bit more). No discounts for different people (at least not that I know of) - new renters, old renters pay the same outrageou$ price.

Initially I had one of the old Ts (sliding door) but upgraded to one of the new ones (electric bi-fold). Circa 2006 the monthly rent went from $505 to $606 so I bailed and simply got a tie-down from the USAF aeroclub (at the time, it was $75/month)... much nicer on the wallet. Not sure how much
ma$$port is charging now.
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Are you still tying down at KBED through USAF aeroclub? Do you have to be a member of the USAF? Didn't realize that was even an option at KBED...
 
T Bird said:
Are you still tying down at KBED through USAF aeroclub? Do you have to be a member of the USAF? Didn't realize that was even an option at KBED...
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Nope. I sold my cherokee in 2012 (shedding expenses ahead of retiring... long story)

At times you had to be prior military to join the Hanscom Aeroclub, and then they opened it up contractors and such. I don't remember all the details, but MITRE employees were included. Once in, you could stay a member forever (even suspending membership and reactivating it) - iirc.

May I suggest you give the club a call.

https://www.hanscomaeroclub.com/about-the-aero-club/contact/

https://www.hanscomaeroclub.com/about-the-aero-club/join/ lists who qualifies to join.
 
I'm at $125 a month for a T in rural Wisconsin. I'm very well aware how good a deal that is. I even paid more than that in Mexico!
 
Long Beach CA hangars are now $1970.00/month from FBO's that will rent them. Neighboring airports that still have city owned hangars have 5-10 year waitlists starting around $500/mos. KSNA (santa ana) transferred all hangars and tie-downs to FBO private management who doubled and tripled the rates but still there is a multi-year waitlist. It's insane.
 
$280/month at KMRB which is near the periphery of the IAD class B. Used to think that was alot but reading this thread makes me feel good about it. It is class D and the field ‘s A&P is across the taxiway from me. Doesn’t have heat per se but it does have internet and electricity and I use it as my office about 15 days a month.
 
rwellner98 said:
I'm at $125 a month for a T in rural Wisconsin. I'm very well aware how good a deal that is. I even paid more than that in Mexico!
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What part of the state? I spoke with KETB last week and they were quoting significantly higher.
 
Our airport recently raised our rent for the 3rd time in as many years. One of their statements was the airport should be self-sustaining and it weren't generating enough revenue. This was a big mistake!

One of our local pilots submitted an open-records request and the city was forced to open their kimono.

We have two full-time employees for the first time ever. We don't need two. Both the manager and her employee live an hour away from the airport, so no local support.

The manager miscalculated how much fuel was needed in our tank and it was overfilled, which busted the bladder. We got a temporary fuel truck, but it can only be operated by airport employees. Part of the open-records request was for security video, which exposed that the employees aren't working normal, published business hours, therefore not supporting fuel sales and generating revenue.

The previous manager and part-time employee mowed the airport. The new manager and her full-time employee sit in the air-conditioning and hire someone to mow. More lost money.

There are many more examples, but now they know the information was requested and it's funny to see them doing things they should have been doing all along.
 
StraightnLevel said:
What part of the state? I spoke with KETB last week and they were quoting significantly higher.
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Lone Rock (KLNR). But I have to also report that after years of having availability, all the hangars are full for now. Please stay away and don't get them thinking they should charge me more. :D
 
JOhnH said:
I know that we have discussed this before, but I was wondering if most hangars have a set price that everyone pays (for similar T-type hangars) or do new renters generally pay more than established long-term renters.. I have been in my hangar for over 10 years and up until three years ago, annual price increases have been minimal. But over the past three years my rent has gone from $420 to $570/month. I paid it because the hangar is convenient to my house and my trusted A&P was on-site. My A&P has now retired, so I checked out another airport that is only slightly further away and has more facilities than my airport. I expected to pay more, but $1275/month? YIKES.

Currently I am in a T-hangar and the one I was looking at is a community hangar. I guess I thought community hangars might be less, but I guess not.

How much variation in hangar prices have you seen at airports around 10 miles apart?
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T-hangars at my home field KTOR are currently $110 month. Electric included, concrete floor, concrete apron to taxiway
 
JOhnH said:
I know that we have discussed this before, but I was wondering if most hangars have a set price that everyone pays (for similar T-type hangars) or do new renters generally pay more than established long-term renters..
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At my home field, if you had a hangar (T-hangar, all the same and fairly new) before the beginning of this year, you got a small price bumb from $550 to $575.

If you started renting after the first of the year, the rate is $650.
 
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