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My faithful ThermaPen Pro finally succumbed to my abuse. I suppose I used the probe to pick up a piece of meat once too often and the plastic piece securing the probe to the unit broke. I could probably glue it back in place, but I'm wondering if anyone has a favorite instant read, digital meat probe.
 
I think ThermoWorks can repair the ThermaPen. If not, they might give you a good deal on a replacement.

My go to is the ThermoPop. Similar in performance to the ThermaPen, but cheaper and non-repairable.

 
I have been using ThermaPens and now the ThermaPen Pro for years now. Their service is customer exemplary. When one of my ancient regular ones died, they gave me a deal on an upgrade to a Thermopen One. WHen one of my pros died, they just replaced it.

Write them on their website and ask if they can repair it for you.
 
Thermapen from Thermaworks.
Mine is ancient. Sister noted damage to the sticking battery cover.
TW mailed me a new one, gratis.
 
Another vote for sticking with what works. Thermapen is my go-to for my own use and for 'dude gifts'.
 
Had to google Thermopen LOL.. I have one. The plastic collar broke as well. Used gorilla 2 part epoxy and good as new. :)
 
Turns out it wasn't a Thermapen from thermaworks.
It is a Therm Pro+ from ThermOpro.

I got on their chat site and they asked me to upload a picture.
Next they asked my mailing address and said I would have my new one in about 5 or 6 days.
 
Turns out it wasn't a Thermapen from thermaworks.
It is a Therm Pro+ from ThermOpro.

I got on their chat site and they asked me to upload a picture.
Next they asked my mailing address and said I would have my new one in about 5 or 6 days.
I used to have a ThermoPro cooking timer/thermometer with a wireless remote display. I used that hard for many years for home use and bbq contests. It worked great and lasted through a lot of abuse and weather conditions. Eventually an internal connection where the probe plugs in failed and I replaced it with a ThermoWorks version.

ThermoPro does make good stuff and the price is right. They also seem to care about customer support.

ThermoWorks stuff is bulletproof but priced accordingly.
 
What temperature you guys using?
Poultry
Steak
Hamburgers
Ground meat is typically safe at 160. Ground chicken needs 165.

Steak: I like 127-130 for med rare.

Poultry is trickier: dark meat typically is best at around 180-185, but white meat dries out too quickly at those temps. 165 instant reading is safe, but can mean it’s overdone - if it’s 165 in the center then it’s >165 on the outside. So pull it early and let it rest.
 
One thing I have discovered is that it's not all about how hot it is, but also how long it has been hot.

Chicken is safe at about 140, but not as soon as it reaches 140. However, if you are cooking it slowly and it stays at 140 for some period of time, all the bad guys (germs) will eventually die even at that temperature. Slow cooking a big roast isn't about when it is safe. You cook it to 200 to break it down so it is tender.
 
how come you never hear about “ground chicken” (at least I haven’t)
 
how come you never hear about “ground chicken” (at least I haven’t)
Ground turkey and ground chicken - I guess I used “chicken” instead of “poultry”. But there are chicken sausages out there. Most of those seem to be precooked, though.
 
Thermopen sent me a refrigerator magnet with all the various temperatures.

I use mine for everything. People ask why my chicken isn't dry or tough. DON'T OVER COOK IT. Also cuts out the guesswork with cooking fish or just about anything else.

I also have their four channel wifi thermometer so I can check on the air and meat temperature in the pig smoker and get alerted if it goes out of bounds.
 
One thing I have discovered is that it's not all about how hot it is, but also how long it has been hot.

Chicken is safe at about 140, but not as soon as it reaches 140. However, if you are cooking it slowly and it stays at 140 for some period of time, all the bad guys (germs) will eventually die even at that temperature. Slow cooking a big roast isn't about when it is safe. You cook it to 200 to break it down so it is tender.
There used to be an FDA time/temp chart out in the wild somewhere. I don’t know if it’s still current or even available. It had a chart for, say chicken and salmonella and other bad things. The charts were like 165F-instant, 160F-10 seconds, …, 147F-xx minutes. Any of those combinations would be safe.

There are probably sous vide cooking charts with that kind of info.
 
Thermopen sent me a refrigerator magnet with all the various temperatures.

I use mine for everything. People ask why my chicken isn't dry or tough. DON'T OVER COOK IT. Also cuts out the guesswork with cooking fish or just about anything else.

I also have their four channel wifi thermometer so I can check on the air and meat temperature in the pig smoker and get alerted if it goes out of bounds.
It’s probably this one:

 
What temperature you guys using?
Poultry
Steak
Hamburgers
The pork shoulder/Boston Butt on the grill is currently at 187 degrees with an hour to cook. I usually shoot for 195 degrees, although a lot of folks go a little hotter.
 
The pork shoulder/Boston Butt on the grill is currently at 187 degrees with an hour to cook. I usually shoot for 195 degrees, although a lot of folks go a little hotter.
Depends on what texture you're shooting for. This year I pulled the pig off a little cooler (right when it hit 190) and chopped it. I think that came out a lot nicer. Going to 210 and having it fall apart is kind of meely.
 
how come you never hear about “ground chicken” (at least I haven’t)
I recently bought some ground chicken that was on a really good sale. I had a $2 coupon and the store had it on sale (BOGO), so it was less than half price.
When I got home I looked up "healthiest ground meat" and it said "kangaroo and chicken".

I cooked it up in a big skillet with a bunch of salt, pepper, thyme, oregano, paprika, pepper flakes, sage, garlic, onion powder, fennel seeds and whatever else looked good.
I use the concoction as a base for a bunch of things, including scrambled eggs, rice and even oatmeal. (Its amazing the things you can do with oatmeal).
No, it's not as good as ground beef, but with enough spices, who cares.
 
I recently bought some ground chicken that was on a really good sale. I had a $2 coupon and the store had it on sale (BOGO), so it was less than half price.
When I got home I looked up "healthiest ground meat" and it said "kangaroo and chicken".

I cooked it up in a big skillet with a bunch of salt, pepper, thyme, oregano, paprika, pepper flakes, sage, garlic, onion powder, fennel seeds and whatever else looked good.
I use the concoction as a base for a bunch of things, including scrambled eggs, rice and even oatmeal. (Its amazing the things you can do with oatmeal).
No, it's not as good as ground beef, but with enough spices, who cares.

It's labor intensive, but look up a pot sticker recipe. I usually use ground pork, but I bet ground chicken could be made to work, too.
 
I used to have a USDA guy in my neighborhood. The reason for cooking ground meat to 160 is to kill off toxins from bacteria. That stuff gets on the outer surface of the meat, then gets ground and mixed into the center. A steak gets cooked at a high heat on the outside and kills off everything and there’s no need to cook the center any more than personal preference.

Even though the bacteria will get killed off at less than 160, the toxins produced by those bacteria aren’t destroyed until they see that higher temp.
 
I recently bought some ground chicken that was on a really good sale. I had a $2 coupon and the store had it on sale (BOGO), so it was less than half price.

yiii, John. Your description of it sounds tasty, but 'meat on sale'?
(well, I do live in a one-horse town where we have documented expired meat being relabeled then put back on the cooler-shelf for the public to re-buy)
 
I recently bought some ground chicken that was on a really good sale. I had a $2 coupon and the store had it on sale (BOGO), so it was less than half price.
When I got home I looked up "healthiest ground meat" and it said "kangaroo and chicken".

I cooked it up in a big skillet with a bunch of salt, pepper, thyme, oregano, paprika, pepper flakes, sage, garlic, onion powder, fennel seeds and whatever else looked good.
I use the concoction as a base for a bunch of things, including scrambled eggs, rice and even oatmeal. (Its amazing the things you can do with oatmeal).
No, it's not as good as ground beef, but with enough spices, who cares.
This is one of our favorite ways to use ground chicken: https://www.foodnetwork.com/recipes/ree-drummond/buffalo-chicken-burgers-5617667 . You may want to back off on the butter, this recipe would make Paula Deen seem like an ascetic.
 
I used to have a USDA guy in my neighborhood. The reason for cooking ground meat to 160 is to kill off toxins from bacteria. That stuff gets on the outer surface of the meat, then gets ground and mixed into the center. A steak gets cooked at a high heat on the outside and kills off everything and there’s no need to cook the center any more than personal preference.

Even though the bacteria will get killed off at less than 160, the toxins produced by those bacteria aren’t destroyed until they see that higher temp.
Do check the labeling on steaks. I’m a fan of Costco but switched over to their primals because the steaks are blade tenderized.

Sous vide for chicken breasts. After cooking it that way, I can barely stand regular chicken breasts and the stringy texture.
 
Do check the labeling on steaks. I’m a fan of Costco but switched over to their primals because the steaks are blade tenderized.

Sous vide for chicken breasts. After cooking it that way, I can barely stand regular chicken breasts and the stringy texture.
I would like to try Sous vide, but ALL THAT PLASTIC!

I'm not a tree hugger, but I do try to be careful of the environment, and I really believe that plastic is one of the big dangers we face in the future. They are even finding microplastics in beer and at the bottom of the Mariana Trench and in sea life under the Antarctic.
 
I would like to try Sous vide, but ALL THAT PLASTIC!

I'm not a tree hugger, but I do try to be careful of the environment, and I really believe that plastic is one of the big dangers we face in the future. They are even finding microplastics in beer and at the bottom of the Mariana Trench and in sea life under the Antarctic.
I haven’t tried for sous vide in particular, but my freezer bags I reuse a bunch of times by taking out what I need and resealing what remains. Sous vide wise, as long as you get them clean, they would reseal. And the contents typically are pasteurized so even less worry on contamination. I’d probably still aim to not mix food types as some flavor may remain. Or they make ‘reusable’ but you lose the ability to vacuum so…not ideal in my book.

Back to thermometers. Are the instant read ones really more instant than say a store bought (edit: digital) Weber thermometer?
 
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Back to thermometers. Are the instant read ones really more instant than say a store bought Weber thermometer?
I think so. I haven't used the Weber but I have used several types of analog "instant" read thermometers. It still take several seconds to a minute to swing the dial up to the internal temperature. My Thermapro really is (practically) instant.
 
I haven’t tried for sous vide in particular, but my freezer bags I reuse a bunch of times by taking out what I need and resealing what remains. Sous vide wise, as long as you get them clean, they would reseal. And the contents typically are pasteurized so even less worry on contamination. I’d probably still aim to not mix food types as some flavor may remain. Or they make ‘reusable’ but you lose the ability to vacuum so…not ideal in my book.

Back to thermometers. Are the instant read ones really more instant than say a store bought (edit: digital) Weber thermometer?
ThermaPens claim about 1-3 seconds for a steady reading. The old school steam gauges can take a while to stabilize. The advantage of instant read is being able to poke several different places and quickly get a feel for heat distribution in a large chunk of meat. Other digital brands, like Weber, probably take 5-10 seconds (just my guess) because they seem to have a thicker probe. ThermaPen and TheroPro, and ThermoWorks brands, have a thinner needle-like tip that holds the thermocouple.
 
The Pros respond in a second. But even my old standard pens are really handy.
 
If anyone is interested, Thermoworks is having a 25% off sale on Thermopen ONE.

 
Call them. They have excellent customer service. When the thermapen I gave my wife years ago failed, I called them up. They apologized and said that while it was WAY out of warranty, they did offer a hefty discount on a replacement.

Just don't tell them you used it to lift up meat off the grill. ;)
 
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