Which airplanes are you most excited about potentially being available in US under MOSAIC / mLSA rules?

Which airplanes are you most exited about potentially being available in US under new mLSA rules?

  • JMB VL3

    Votes: 3 12.5%

  • Bristell RG

    Votes: 3 12.5%

  • Risen SuperVeloce

    Votes: 2 8.3%

  • TL Sport Sparker

    Votes: 0 0.0%

  • Pelegrin Tarragon

    Votes: 1 4.2%

  • Texas Aircraft Stallion

    Votes: 2 8.3%

  • Sling TSi

    Votes: 9 37.5%

  • Sling HW

    Votes: 4 16.7%

  • Bristell B8

    Votes: 0 0.0%

  • Evektor SuperCobra

    Votes: 0 0.0%
  • Total voters
    24
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Which airplanes are you most excited about potentially being available in US under MOSAIC / mLSA rules? Are you more interested in the new, fast 2-seaters or modern, efficient 4-seaters? The first five poll choices are 2-seaters, last five are 4-seaters.

(I know there are more options out there, but the forum limits the number of poll choices one can post.)
 
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TCABM said:
Exited?

When we get to a final rule, let me know; until then this is all a pipe dream.
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Yulp ... saying it's gonna be 2025 now. I'm giddy with anticipation ... :rolleyes1:
 
They keep pushing the date further ahead. Not everyone is happy with some of the changes I would guess.
 
Hence the word "potentially." It's a hypothetical question. Answer based on most recent information, which of course is subject to change. Use your imagination. ;)
 
Interesting you didn't include any multi engine choices.
 
The plane I built and fly now is not on the list ... ;)
 
Cluemeister said:
Interesting you didn't include any multi engine choices.
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Which multiengine airplanes would fall under the proposed MOSAIC mLSA rules? Maybe Tecnam P2006T? I'm thinking more about planes that one can't currently buy in the US (in other than Experimental category). Are there other multiengine options that would fit into that niche?
 
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DeadStick said:
I'm pretty excited about this change, a lot of those options are already benefitting from looser restrictions in Europe and Anzac with much faster cruise speeds, greater useful loads and 4-seat configurations. For example, Jabiru sells a 4-seater in Australia which in the US market is limited to a two-seater with artificially low gross weight numbers.
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Yeah, I wanted to include the Jabiru J430, but ran out of poll choices.
 
Skepilot said:
That's not what they're saying. https://www.avweb.com/aviation-news/gama-says-it-supports-four-place-aircraft-in-mosaic/
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I'll see your "supports" from Jan 15 and raise you "safety concerns" from Jan 24.
www.avweb.com

GAMA Raises MOSAIC Safety Concerns - AVweb

The General Aviation Manufacturers Association says it supports almost everything about the proposed Modernization of Special Airworthiness Certification (MOSAIC) initiative but isn’t convinced the FAA has properly considered the risks of one of its main proposals. In its comments on the Notice...
www.avweb.com www.avweb.com

I'll also note that GAMA submitted their concerns at the 11th hour, just before public comments on the rule were due to close.
 
We shall see. Even GAMA says their members can't reach consensus on what to do on the subject. I'm thinking this horse has left the barn, regardless of what GAMA wants.
 
Expected date for implementation is now pushed out to early-mid 2025, which probably means November.

Don’t get too excited about those new airplanes yet.
 
bflynn said:
Don’t get too excited about those new airplanes yet.
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People seem to be stuck on the word "excited." Fine, scratch it and replace with "looking forward to." One can still look forward to things that may be years down the road. Don't get hung up on a word, just answer which plane you find most interesting.
 
The legacy SLSAs that tank in value and become more affordable, and more affordable still when they are reborn as ELSAs.
 
TCABM said:
FIFY
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Doh! Typo in the poll. Correct in the title and post content, but I can't edit the poll itself. Oh well. Most people can figure it out from context.
 
MBDiagMan said:
Which ones of those are certified and which ones are kit/experimental?
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All of these currently can only be purchased as experimental in the US. But under the proposed MOSAIC / mLSA rule change, they would all be able to be purchased as factory-built, ready-to-fly airplanes.
 
Skepilot said:
People seem to be stuck on the word "excited." Fine, scratch it and replace with "looking forward to." One can still look forward to things that may be years down the road. Don't get hung up on a word, just answer which plane you find most interesting.
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Half those planes will probably no longer be in production in two years.
 
JMB VL3, though if I could pick two, the TL Sparker would come in a close second.
 
DeadStick said:
I don't think the Mitsubishi A6M Zero will qualify under MOSAIC...
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On the other hand, there is a really nice 80% one flying in the Czech Republic as an LSA with a Verner engine.

 
ateamer said:
Forget any of those planes. I’d like to see MOSAIC include expand8ng the repair and inspection courses and certification you can get for LSAs to cover all MOSAIC aircraft.
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What type of changes to the LSRM program for LSA do you suppose would be needed to accommodate MOSAIC aircraft ?
 
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