You see a plane coming at you with seconds to react.

Don't worry about it, if you can't see it on your tv screen it isn't there.
 
ChemGuy said:
Pull. Most planes are rated for more positive than negative g's. At normal cruise speed you probably wont pull hard enough to stall, even at 3-4g's. If you go negative 3-4gs you might break something.
Also i would rather collide my underside/prop with his cabin than have his prop/belly slice thru my cabin/head.
Click to expand...
Finally a smart person with a smart answer. Took a while to get to it. :D
 
Closest call I've had (so far and hopefully ever) was me as PIC, with a CFI right-seat in a 160hp Cessna 172, one rear passenger, 7,000 feet on a warm day. Sluggish climb, slow cruise. CFI saw a Twin Otter parachute plane climbing directly up at us from the right. Too quick to say anything, he shoved the controls down with authority.

Later, he said it's as close a call as he's had. No time to say "My controls" - or anything else. Apparently, the Twin Otter climbs steeply and they probably didn't see us either. I never saw the Twin Otter before, during, or after the event.

In a low-powered airplane like my situation, I don't think climbing will work well since there's not much reserve power or speed.

If we're aiming to develop the safest reflex for a situation without time to think, I'm not sure there's anything better than "RIGHT DIVE" with the bank coming first. (I could also see a case for "RIGHT CLIMB.")
 
Low wing - push down
High wing - pull up

Otherwise, how are you going to flip each other the bird??
 
I saw them as we nosed over to start a level acceleration...about 20 deg angle-off, their fuselage filled the right half of the windscreen. We broke left but probably didn't get much of a pull in as I ducked and saw rivets and oil streaks pass overhead, followed immediately by the thump of their wake.

Nauga,
beak to beak
 
Experienced a near miss. Natural reaction is to pull back (especially with a stick instead of yoke.) But in hindsight (in my situation), I should have dove sharply since I was on final and my speed was already slow. With a plane that turned base while I was on final around 500' AGL, not much room for a dive, but that would have been my only option. Pulling the stick back would have put me into a stall.
 
geneseib said:
Perpendicular - turn directly towards him. When you get there, he'll be somewhere else.
Click to expand...
That there. If he's coming from the right, turn right. Turning left just runs you across his flight path, maybe about the time, or just before, he gets there.
 
My closest call was after a skydiving formation. At 5000 feet AGL, we broke off and I was tracking away from the formation when I saw an airplane coming towards me. At about 2000 feet, I saw that the pilot had blue eyes that were quite wide open once he spotted me.

I briefly considered pulling up, but I decided to keep diving instead.
 
G-Man said:
In a low-powered airplane like my situation, I don't think climbing will work well since there's not much reserve power or speed.
Click to expand...
And I would agree with that thought for just about any GA single.

If it's birds you're avoiding, climb. If it's another airplane, dive.
 
My goodness. Everyone is wondering whether to push or pull, but I didn't see anything about giving way to the aircraft on the right. What happepened to turning behind him and pulling/pushing as required ??

Sometimes I'm miffed.
 
I am talking about when it is past that point.
You have time for a knee jerk reaction and need to make the right one.
 
Shepherd said:
PS: If the GoPro survives, we will give you the honors you deserve. After all, this is POA.
Click to expand...

No we won't. This is PoA. We will second guess every action that was taken, eviscerate the OP and explain why their survival in the wake of such poor decisions was a fluke. :D :eek:
 
SixPapaCharlie said:
I am talking about when it is past that point.
You have time for a knee jerk reaction and need to make the right one.
Click to expand...
Knee jerk reaction.... nobody can plan for that. Who really knows what will happen?? But that's less than "seconds". Knee jerk reaction, IMO, is a second or less. But who knows? We are all different.
 
Ryanb said:
And I would agree with that thought for just about any GA single.

If it's birds you're avoiding, climb. If it's another airplane, dive.
Click to expand...

To avoid another airplane you only need to change altitude by what, 20ft? I don't think excess power available for a sustained climb is relevant at all.
 
Katamarino said:
To avoid another airplane you only need to change altitude by what, 20ft? I don't think excess power available for a sustained climb is relevant at all.
Click to expand...
If I'm facing a potential collision with another aircraft, I'm gonna want to clear them by much more than just 20ft. But I didn't insinuate that climbing would be the better option. Certain situations might call for diving, and that was true for the situation I was in.
 
G-Man said:
Closest call I've had (so far and hopefully ever) was me as PIC, with a CFI right-seat in a 160hp Cessna 172, one rear passenger, 7,000 feet on a warm day. Sluggish climb, slow cruise. CFI saw a Twin Otter parachute plane climbing directly up at us from the right.
Click to expand...

Is this the story that was mentioned a while back that got James331 and the poster in a big keyboard warrior match about jump pilots and right-of-way? I think it ended with "I will beta blast your Cherokee out of my way at the fuel pumps."
 
You must log in or register to reply here.
Back
Top