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This software has been out for awhile now. At $200/yr it is pricey.

Has some really great features. Most importantly, it learns your airplane's engine out glide ratio and when coupled with an ADSB reciever, uses winds aloft data to calculate a glide path to the nearest runway.

Anyone here use this program? With weather and navigation data it seems like a fully featured EFB. Right now I am using Foreflight, but would consider switching.

http://xavion.com/app/full-description/
 
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dell30rb said:
This software has been out for awhile now. At $200/yr it is pricey.



Has some really great features. Most importantly, it learns your airplane's engine out glide ratio and when coupled with an ADSB reciever, uses winds aloft data to calculate a glide path to the nearest runway.



Anyone here use this program? With weather and navigation data it seems like a fully featured EFB, but I can't find if it includes charts and approach plates. Right now I am using Foreflight, but would consider switching.



http://xavion.com/app/full-description/
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Yes, right up to the point the "lifetime" $99 product became a subscription. Search for Xavion and see the history. BTW -- the product does not do everything ForeFlight and the other apps do.
 
I e-mailed and received a reply

Subscription is $200/yr
Charts and plates are through seattle avionics and run an extra $150/yr

Pretty steep.
 
I have Xavion, the early lifetime version. I have not researched what they offer now so cannot comment on their latest offerings. While the ipad mini is in the plane, I rarely find myself looking at it.

Seems to me that Xavion serves one role while programs like foreflight and the like serve another. Not sure I would want to try and merge the two. Now if Xavion would run silently in the background and offer the ability to be called up in an emergency from within my chosen EFB, that would be nice.
 
Yes, I got ripped off by that scam artist. I wouldn't touch it with a ten foot pole. ForeFlight will eventually include those features.
 
FORANE said:
I have Xavion, the early lifetime version. I have not researched what they offer now so cannot comment on their latest offerings. While the ipad mini is in the plane, I rarely find myself looking at it.

Seems to me that Xavion serves one role while programs like foreflight and the like serve another. Not sure I would want to try and merge the two. Now if Xavion would run silently in the background and offer the ability to be called up in an emergency from within my chosen EFB, that would be nice.
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I disagree. I think it's a completely logical extension of ForeFlight/EFB capability. Xavion has a horrible user interface. The folks at FF are masters of the intuitive UI.
 
FORANE said:
I have Xavion, the early lifetime version.
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Me too; haven't seen it ask for more money. I get LOTS of updates; they're constantly tweaking it. Newest update factors in NOTAMS for closed runways and will prefer a non-closed runway over one marked as closed. However, if the closed runway is the only real choice, it will still guide you to the closed runway with big warnings that you're inbound to a runway marked as closed per NOTAM.
 
It should cost $2/mo, not $20/mo.
 
Art VanDelay said:
Heck, Anywhere Map had that glide circle on it ten years ago.
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Far better than the glide circle is the ground impact arc present in the "pro" version which runs on windows tablets. I could cut the motor miles out thousands of feet up and turn toward or away from an airport, add or remove drag, and so long as I kept the arc on the beginning of a runway I could nail the touchdown spot. It was magic.
 
FORANE said:
Far better than the glide circle is the ground impact arc present in the "pro" version which runs on windows tablets. I could cut the motor miles out thousands of feet up and turn toward or away from an airport, add or remove drag, and so long as I kept the arc on the beginning of a runway I could nail the touchdown spot. It was magic.
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That is a nice feature. What I am talking about does essentially the same thing, its just presented in a different way on your synthetic vision picture.

I e-mailed foreflight to ask about it and they responded, it is on the list of upgrades to consider in the future. If anyone else is interested, send them an e-mail.

What i'm talking about is the little icon on the runway here, that is the glide path of the airplane. FF should be able to calculate and display this as the actual GPS path of the plane, independent of attitude.

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If I could buy this now for $99 I would be sold.

I may try it for the monthly price of $20 and give it a good workout to see if the software works well enough on an iphone with no external AHRS or ADSB

I'm happy with my stratus and foreflight. I don't want to ditch FF or sell the stratus and buy an ilevil.

I e-mailed austin with a few questions. If connected to internet when you start it up (iphone while on the ramp or low altitude) the software will grab current winds aloft forecast and metars. When flying, it will use this information in the glide calculations it makes.

So, for me it might work to have my iphone mounted (and plugged into a charger) running this while flying using the internal gyros, GPS and accelerometers of the iphone.

From reading the product manual, and watching videos on youtube I think the emergency glide function is very well thought out. I don't think the other functions are anywhere near FF or Garmin pilot.
 
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That's how I use it. FF running on my iPad mini with Stratus 2. Xavion running on my iPhone, suction cup mount. IPhone is ready if I need it for FF backup, but always has a glide solution ready since Xavion is running in the foreground.
 
These proprietary communications AHRS/ADS-B box situation is really annoying considering the difference in cost between hardware and software.
 
Henning said:
These proprietary communications AHRS/ADS-B box situation is really annoying considering the difference in cost between hardware and software.
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Yep... If Xavion worked with a Stratus 2 for AHRS, I'd pay the monthly (maybe), but I'm not buying/maintaining 2 portable AHRS units!
 
Lindberg said:
Who was flying the plane and seeing and avoiding while he was talking to the camera in the back seat?
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I'll bet he was doing more "seeing and avoiding" than most airline crews do in cruise... (Ok,ok, he's wasn't in positive control airspace, point taken)

The "see and avoid" police on PoA are kind of like the "guard police" on 121.5 if you know what I mean.
 
Lindberg said:
Who was flying the plane and seeing and avoiding while he was talking to the camera in the back seat?
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Looks like IMC to me but if not, oh the humanity. [sarcasm]
 
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