Would you buy this car?

Id get a subie before that, w/o AWD or 4x4 you're a lawn ornamentwhere I live.
 
:thumbsup: well done! But no, I wouldn't. Well maybe. But I don't need an airport car. Do I?
 
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Haha that’s awesome. The coffee pot in the pax seat... I may need to think about this. I do have an extra coffee pot with a thermal carafe... hmmm.

Best part about a ‘96 Accord? You’re probably paying cash and DGAF about anything that happens to it.
 
James331 said:
Id get a subie before that, w/o AWD or 4x4 you're a lawn ornamentwhere I live.
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Put *studded* snow tires on that Accord and it’ll self-motivate just fine until the snow drifts reach the front bumper depth! I know a guy who did it with one, he just beat the holy hell out of that thing for years and never had a car payment. Was hilarious.
 
denverpilot said:
The even better follow up to the commercial... eBay bids are up over $20K on the silly thing! LOL!

https://www.autoblog.com/amp/2017/1...outube-reddit-swells-1996-honda-accord-price/
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denverpilot said:
Put *studded* snow tires on that Accord and it’ll self-motivate just fine until the snow drifts reach the front bumper depth! I know a guy who did it with one, he just beat the holy hell out of that thing for years and never had a car payment. Was hilarious.
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Putt studs on a subie and it'll drive up a wall like a fly
 
James331 said:
Putt studs on a subie and it'll drive up a wall like a fly
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Perhaps. Mine does pretty well in the snow. Goodyear Assurance TripleTreads on it. Those things are great in everything except glare ice. They’re not so good then. But ABS tends to keep things from getting too out of hand.

Clark1961 said:
That'd be a good place for a subie
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I’ll race your red one on the washboarded dirt roads out here. Hahaha. My worn out struts smooth them right out. :) It’s like a little rally car without the horsepower, so I just floor it. Haha.
 
denverpilot said:
I’ll race your red one on the washboarded dirt roads out here. Hahaha. My worn out struts smooth them right out. :) It’s like a little rally car without the horsepower, so I just floor it. Haha.
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Never have taken the red one off-road yet. Might give it a try....nah.
 
denverpilot said:
Put *studded* snow tires on that Accord and it’ll self-motivate just fine until the snow drifts reach the front bumper depth! I know a guy who did it with one, he just beat the holy hell out of that thing for years and never had a car payment. Was hilarious.
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I drove a 1995 Acccord along the Ohio River for several winters, it never let me down or got me stuck. Rarely played any casssettes, though. Nothing quite like a good front wheel drive with a 5 speed, I went over hills that 4WD SUVs turned around and drove away from. Even passed some on the back roads, 30 mph is too slow . . . Finally sold it with just over 200,000 miles for a whopping $750 back in 2012 . . .
 
I’m starting to see a trend here. Video production workers don’t make enough to drive new cars. Or even cars from the current decade. LOL.
 
Those videos almost shockingly expose how vulnerable some minds are.

(I just bid 24,000 and was instantly outbid!)

ok kidding...not really.

it was 30,000!

kidding again....

now, if it was a Prius...
 
denverpilot said:
Put *studded* snow tires on that Accord and it’ll self-motivate just fine until the snow drifts reach the front bumper depth! I know a guy who did it with one, he just beat the holy hell out of that thing for years and never had a car payment. Was hilarious.
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The myth of "all-season" tires has reduced the popularity of snow tires in general; and the effects of studded tires on roadways (along with their general noisiness and somewhat-reduced life spans) have reduced the popularity of studded snow tires in particular.

When I was a kid, everyone swapped their tires in the winter, at least on the rear wheels, FWD cars being a rarity back then. Then radial "all-season" tires came out, and like many dopey kids, I actually believed that they were just as good as snow tires. That delusion was shattered by my first winter in Syracuse when I was about 22. There is no such thing as an "all-season" tire anywhere that it gets cold in the winter. I don't care how many wheel-drive you have.

As for the studs, I live in the midst of the NYC watershed. I'm surrounded by reservoirs, and salt is generally frowned upon. They use it on some particularly dangerous stretches of road, but most of the roads get sand. That often results in layers of ice being hidden by freshly-fallen snow. When you hit a patch like that, there's no substitute for studs.

I also believe in snow tires all around, especially on FWD cars. Putting snows only on the front can cause fishtailing, and putting them only on the rear can cause understeer. Neither are desirable situations, especially on some of the roads around here where there's not a hell of a lot of margin for error between opposing traffic on the left and escarpments on the right. (My county's not big on guardrails.)

I'll probably do my seasonal tire swap later today. I usually do it when the forecast for the next week has highs consistently under 50 F. That would actually mean Tuesday this year, but it's supposed to rain on Tuesday, and I'd rather do the swap when it's not raining. Jacking up the car is easier when it's not sitting in the mud.

Rich
 
Back when I lived in Up north, I had an old Mk1 Jetta winter beater. I put four Hakkapeliitta studded snows on it, it was a friggin snow cat. I drove it all over New England on ski trips and never worried a bit about the weather.
 
Bill Jennings said:
Back when I lived in Up north, I had an old Mk1 Jetta winter beater. I put four Hakkapeliitta studded snows on it, it was a friggin snow cat. I drove it all over New England on ski trips and never worried a bit about the weather.
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Snow tire of snow tires, though they feel like they have softer sidewalks, and are for sure not something you want to run all year, but for snow #1
 
Why is it quoting the price in Vietnamese Dong as well?

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James331 said:
Snow tire of snow tires, though they feel like they have softer sidewalks, and are for sure not something you want to run all year, but for snow #1
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I usually shop for the Nokian Hakkapeliitta, the Nokian Nordman, or the General Altimax Arctic. They're all outstanding winter tires that also suit my more subjective personal "feel" preference, and they all have good wear. I usually get three seasons out of them if I install them in early- to mid-November and take them off in mid- to late-March, depending on weather forecasts.

I basically try to avoid installing winter tires until I think the high temperatures are going to be < 50F for at least a week. I'd rather not use them at all above 50F. That's not hard to avoid, however, because other than daily trips to the post office less than a mile away, there are very few trips that I have to make on any given day (nor during any given week, for that matter).

I also like the Firestone Winterforce in terms of performance, but not so much in terms of wear. I'd rank the Winterforce in the same league as the Nokians or the Altimax Arctic in terms of their performance, but they're really shot by the end of two seasons. I suspect they use softer rubber, which is great for extreme cold-weather performance, but at the cost of shorter life.

When I bought my present car, however, it was already so late in the season that I couldn't find any of my customary winter tires in stock in my car's size at any of my favored dealers. I've found that winter tires are best ordered in late August. Any later, and you're taking your chances. By October the pickings get pretty slim.

My favorite tire supplier by a wide margin is Discount Tire Direct. Most of my local shops, including my two favorite garages, have very limited selections and usually can't get the tires I want (but are happy to mount and balance tires that I buy online). I checked with the local guys, but they all had nothing in my car's size. I also have a friend who owns a Firestone franchise downstate, but he also had nothing and didn't anticipate getting any more. As I said, winter tire pickings get slim in October.

So I called Discount Tire Direct again. Their CSR's actually know something about tires. They're tire geeks. The CSR who took the call looked up my past purchases and reviews, and then looked up reviews by other customers who owned the same car, and suggested that I try the Hankook Winter i*Pike RS W419. They scored very high in reviews by other Kia Soul drivers. So I gave them a shot.

After one season, I'd rate the Hankook Winter i*Pike RS W419's performance in snow, ice, or when the OAT is below ~ 45F as superb. Wear-wise, it also looks like I'll get three seasons out of them. They still look pretty good after their first season:

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So I figure I have at least a shot at getting three seasons out of them.

Subjectively, however, these tires do feel a bit grippy to me on dry pavement when the OAT is higher than ~ 45F. That's with the pressure at 37 PSI, which is 4 PSI above the car's door sticker recommendation, which is what Kia recommends for winter tires. In a pinch, pushing it to 40 PSI solves the grippiness problem, which is what I'd do if I had to make a longish trip when the OAT was > 45F. Either that or I'd just swap the summer tires back on for that that trip.

But as I said earlier, it's pretty rare that I have to go anywhere on any particular day; and in another couple of weeks, it'll be a moot point, anyway. Days when it's > 45F outside will be pretty much just a memory until the spring.

Rich
 
denverpilot said:
What were you shopping for before that? We know you like Asian women but seriously, trafficking is evil. Stop that.
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timwinters said:
Must be your location, mine doesn't show any other currency.
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I don't know why it thinks I'm in Vietnam. The laptop has been in Vietnam, but that was a few months ago.
 
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