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How many are going to jump?

I'm Sprint, otherwise I'd be tempted... so far my berry does just fine though.
 
I'm gonna take a wait and see approach. As a currently dissatisfied iphone user (due to ATT's service), I am hopeful a few million ATT users move to VZ. If that occurs as suspected, ATT service may actually be useful at that time.
 
it will be a good day to own some verizon stock when i phone comes
 
I have verizonwireless now. I may get an iphone. But my 4 year old basic LG phone is still going strong...so I'm somewhat uncertain.
 
So is verizon gonna lock down the iPhone??

I bet they'll have Verizon specific version of iTunes. I can just see it. viTunes, an incredibly powerful way to sync your phone if you know the cryptic escape sequences :D
 
I have an Android on VZ, and a Blackberry on T-Mo. I do not plan to give up the Android for the iPhone....
 
I'm personally not too excited about the Verizon network. The grass is always greener on the other side.

I was a Verizon customer for years and don't remember anything about their service being spectacular. I dropped TONS of calls on an interstate drive.

Verizon service is lacking in a few places where I really need it. When Danielle and I were driving a lot over the holidays her Verizon phone didn't ever perform where mine didn't. Verizon often cuts her off during our phone calls at night and the service will go down for 10 minutes or so.

Every carrier has their problems. I see no reason to jump ship.
 
jesse said:
I'm personally not too excited about the Verizon network. The grass is always greener on the other side.

I was a Verizon customer for years and don't remember anything about their service being spectacular. I dropped TONS of calls on an interstate drive.

Verizon service is lacking in a few places where I really need it. When Danielle and I were driving a lot over the holidays her Verizon phone didn't ever perform where mine didn't. Verizon often cuts her off during our phone calls at night and the service will go down for 10 minutes or so.

Every carrier has their problems. I see no reason to jump ship.
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I agree. I have an AT&T iPhone but the phone assigned to the airplane is Verizon. Sometimes one works better than the other but I wouldn't say that there is a clear winner.
 
i'm already on verizon and i think i have an upgrade coming in the next few months. would be very tempting
 
Everskyward said:
I agree. I have an AT&T iPhone but the phone assigned to the airplane is Verizon. Sometimes one works better than the other but I wouldn't say that there is a clear winner.
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Agree. I have a work-issued ATT Blackberry. In many places I need it, it drops or doesn't work. Verizon works in more places where I need it, but not everywhere (Cincinnati, for example, is vastly better on ATT than Verizon). The only clear comments I can make are that T-Mobile's coverage is worse than both VZ and ATT, and that Sprint's 3G data is worse than VZ's 3G data. At least where I need it.
 
tonycondon said:
i'm already on verizon and i think i have an upgrade coming in the next few months. would be very tempting
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You should do it. You need my apps. And possibly any gliding ones you can think up that could sell :)
 
Still a while before my upgrade every 2 years on Verizon. And I'm perfectly happy with my Droid. We'll see later on...
 
ScottM said:
Before you upgrade make sure you know what the LTE coverage is in your area. If you do not have enough you might want to wait.
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That's assuming that the new iPhone even supports LTE. Or do you know something we don't know? :)
-harry
 
mantakos said:
That's assuming that the new iPhone even supports LTE. Or do you know something we don't know? :)
-harry
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Good pickup Harry! Although N-S isn't in the LTE biz with VZW (Alcatel-Lucent has the rollout, along with Samsung; and the big hubaloo in the chip world is Qualcomm's tri-mode CDMA/W-CDMA/LTE chipset)

Cheers,

-Andrew
 
I can say this about Verizon's coverage: It seemed to work great for me all the way across the country except in the podunks of New Mexico and Texas Panhandle. With T-Mobile, I was lucky to make it between Santa Fe and Albuquerque without losing it.

On Sprint, I always had service on the interstates, everywhere in the country. On AT&T, aside from not having 3G everywhere I wanted it, I at least had service everywhere except in the same places I lost it with Verizon.

The biggest difference (and benefit) to Verizon is that there seems to be 3G coverage where AT&T only has 2G, and 1X coverage where AT&T has no coverage.

But that's just my experience. I'm sure somewhere, there's an example of the opposite.

I will stay away from the device talk, except to say that Android will do anything iPhone will do with less upfront and ongoing cost. That's huge to me.
 
ScottM said:
I am still stuck on Android 2.1 MotorolaMobility delayed their upgrade to 2.2 for the Mileston again. I swear everyone will be on 3.0 before I get to 2.2.
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Can you not do a root install of a Motorola Droid 2.2 OS? I would have thought by now someone would have figured that one out.
 
mantakos said:
That's assuming that the new iPhone even supports LTE. Or do you know something we don't know? :)
-harry
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I'm just saying.

Given that Verizon recently announced 4G and based it on their LTE, the smart money is on all capital being used to expand their nationwide footprint of LTE. Their CDMA network is well over a decade old.

Let me remind you of a post I made in 2008:

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Well first Apple did not go exclusively with AT&T. The arrangement between Apple and AT&T is only for the US market. But again it was not entirely Apple. Cellphone customers are NOT the end user. Let me say that again in another way. No one here is a cellphone customer. You are all cell phone service customers.

The cellphone manufacturers do not sell to you, they sell to cellphone carriers. So the customers are Alltel, Sprint, AT&T, Verizon, and T-Mobile. Those customers dictate terms and carry lots of influence with the manufacturers. Apple put out their smart phone and offered it to the only two customers in the US, T-Mobile and AT&T, that could use it based on the air interface technology. The air interface for the other carriers is a much smaller market globally and the devices are driven to very small margins. Apple saw no profit in them and went with the other larger market technology.

It then came down to AT&T being able to offer the larger market and potential sales. They dictated the terms to Apple on the exclusivity deal. That is not a position that is unique. Verizon did the same thing a few years ago with the Motorola Razor.

Now that Alltel will be going away, as it has been bought by Verizon, expect a lot of changes to the CDMA market to be driven by Verizon as Sprint is shrinking their CDMA market and is now deploying WiMAX technology. Globably the only major operators left for CDMA are Sprint, Verizon/Alltel, and KDDI (Japan). There are a few smaller operators but they command no influence to any technology vendor at all when compared to Verizon and KDDI, even Sprint's voice on CDMA is limited. Sprint however carries lots of influence on WiMAX as they are the largest western hemisphere operator.

Sprint also recently announced a merger with Clearwire (data company) and rumors are abounding that the parent company of T-Mobile will buy the Sprint Nextel business and convert all of that technology to perhaps something called LTE in the next decade (which is real close BTW) or perhaps some other evolution of their GSM/HSPA technology.
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Since then Verizon and KDDI (Japan) have announced LTE networks. The press is reporting about Sprint trialing LTE. IOW there is not a lot of future in CDMA. Maybe the new iPhone will support 1xEV-DO and then would only work in three markets for three operators world wide. Or maybe it would be LTE/CDMA/UMTS and work globally.

Just saying.
 
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SkyHog said:
I will stay away from the device talk, except to say that Android will do anything iPhone will do with less upfront and ongoing cost. That's huge to me.
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In some ways that is true - in others it's not. For example good luck finding an app that is equivlant to Foreflight on Android right now. People really need to look at what they want to do before they pick the device.

My major issue with Android right now is how outdated the Android install is on many of the phones. The carriers simply aren't pushing updates to people or are doing it really really slow which really makes it a pain in the ass for developers.

The nice thing about the iPhone is that the carrier does not control the iOS update cycle, Apple does, and they have been doing timely releases which are easy for a user to update to (and most do).
 
jesse said:
In some ways that is true - in others it's not. For example good luck finding an app that is equivlant to Foreflight on Android right now. People really need to look at what they want to do before they pick the device.

My major issue with Android right now is how outdated the Android install is on many of the phones. The carriers simply aren't pushing updates to people or are doing it really really slow which really makes it a pain in the ass for developers.

The nice thing about the iPhone is that the carrier does not control the iOS update cycle, Apple does, and they have been doing timely releases which are easy for a user to update to (and most do).
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100% true, and frustrating as well to have to write software with such a broad range of software versions in production. You can blame this one mostly on Motorola, as they're the ones that have the devices that stay the most behind. The CLIQ, for example, was running version 1.5 well after 2.2 had launched (that's behind versions 1.6, 2.0, 2.1, 2.11, and 2.2). That's pretty bad.

Most other Android devices, aside from the tablets, are pretty much up to date as soon as the new versions launch, and HTC is pretty good about keeping up to date on their devices that don't run SenseUI. Those that do are behind, but not as much as Motorola is.
 
I have a droid on Verizon now. I will get a new iphone on verizon the day they come out. For me I think the verizon network is the best but the iphone is by far the best phone. I put up with this droid for to long. Iphone here I come... Anyone want to buy a droid? It's all about the apps to me and android apps suck. Esp. for flying.
 
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dennyleeb said:
I have a droid on Verizon now. I will get a new iphone on verizon the day they come out. For me I think the verizon network is the best but the iphone is by far the best phone. I put up with this droid for to long. Iphone here I come... Anyone want to buy a droid? It's all about the apps to me and android apps suck. Esp. for flying.
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The iPhone has the WhyFies too!!

:D:D:D

Not directed at Denny, just funny

 
jesse said:
... My major issue with Android right now is how outdated the Android install is on many of the phones...
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And this is a structural flaw in the business model.

I bought an HTC G1 to play around with, it was running a very old version of Android and no new version was available.

This kills Google's ability to tout new Android releases, you simply can't build up a "splash" around your new features, because your customers can't access them any way.

Compare that to iPhone/OS, where there's a big dog and pony show, the press gets all gushy, and everybody hooks up their phones and downloads the new software. If you have an older phone, Apple will withhold from you just enough functionality to motivate you to upgrade your hardware, but until then at least you don't feel like you've been abandoned in the dark annals of time.
-harry
 
ScottM said:
The iPhone has the WhyFies too!!

:D:D:D

Not directed at Denny, just funny

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Funny

But bottom line is it is all about the apps to me. Esp. the aviation apps. Droid sucks in that department.
 
ScottM said:
It is all about the apps to me too.
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So are you switching? If not which aviation apps are good on android. How do you file IFR flight plan on the droid.(please don't say call) I don't know of any good aps for aviation on android market. ie. foreflight
 
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dennyleeb said:
So are you switching? If not which aviation apps are good on android. How do you file IFR flight plan on the droid.(please don't say call) I don't know of any good aps for aviation on android market. ie. foreflight
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Use the web browser and file using the DUAT website.
 
As much as I enjoy the iphone I find it incredibly hilarious that the danged alarm was DOA on New Years day. Talk about basic programming snafus.
 
dennyleeb said:
So are you switching? If not which aviation apps are good on android. How do you file IFR flight plan on the droid.(please don't say call) I don't know of any good aps for aviation on android market. ie. foreflight
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I use fltplan.com for filing from the Droid. Admittedly nowhere near what FF can do. OTOH, the iPad blows the iPhone out of the water for the use of FF anyway.
 
gprellwitz said:
I use fltplan.com for filing from the Droid. Admittedly nowhere near what FF can do. OTOH, the iPad blows the iPhone out of the water for the use of FF anyway.
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Like you all say it can be done just not near as easy as FF. I love my iPad use it all the time. (on it now at my daughters swimming practice). I have a few apps for the droid they are just not as good and not as many. To each their own. Like I said the day they come out I will probably never own a droid again like millions of Americans. I have looked forward to iPhone on verizon for some time now.
 
Ghery said:
Still a while before my upgrade every 2 years on Verizon. And I'm perfectly happy with my Droid. We'll see later on...
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Rumor has it that VZ is about to abolish "new every 2".....
 
dennyleeb said:
That is convenient Lol
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So, were you looking for functionality or convenience? If you want convenience, let god Jobs tell you what you can buy, when you can buy it, what network you can use it on, and what apps you can have. You want functionality, get an Android.
 
pilot_dude said:
As much as I enjoy the iphone I find it incredibly hilarious that the danged alarm was DOA on New Years day. Talk about basic programming snafus.
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Pretty common stuff, unfortunately. Garmin had a problem with daylight savings a couple years back. I recall Windows having similar issues.

When I first got a Windows Mobile phone a few years back the alarm would silently fail if the phone was plugged in, something you might do to a phone overnight, a time after which you might be likely to want an alarm to work. They fixed that with an OS upgrade, and thankfully the phone's alarm works just great today, and that's what I use it for as it's all the damn thing is good for.

Android had a fun bug where you can send a text message to somebody, and it would appear to succeed, but the phone would send it to somebody other than who you intended to send it to. If you're Brett Favre, I think you're much better off with an iPhone and over-sleeping.
-harry
 
KSCessnaDriver said:
So, were you looking for functionality or convenience? If you want convenience, let god Jobs tell you what you can buy, when you can buy it, what network you can use it on, and what apps you can have. You want functionality, get an Android.
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Like I said I have a droid. I can't wait to put it on eBay.....
 
dennyleeb said:
Like I said I have a droid. I can't wait to put it on eBay.....
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So then why did you buy it? And please do come back to us in a year, when you have the iPhone, and then tell us its on ebay too. Some people are never happy.
 
KSCessnaDriver said:
So then why did you buy it? And please do come back to us in a year, when you have the iPhone, and then tell us its on ebay too. Some people are never happy.
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Because in my area AT&T has horrible coverage and Verizon is great. I was never with you... And the phone was just used for a bridge. Enjoy those great aviation apps. on that droid. lol
 
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