USDA approves lab grown meat for public sale

Will you eat it?

  • Yes

    Votes: 12 23.1%

  • No

    Votes: 12 23.1%

  • Oh, Hell No!

    Votes: 28 53.8%
  • Total voters
    52
If we can create lab meat, do we have lab grown organs yet? #priorities
 
455 Bravo Uniform said:
I was wondering:

-will growing chicken meat include growing a bone or not? What about the tendons?
-Can we grow light meat and/or dark meat?
-What will the tissue (meat) texture look or feel like - a tender or a breast? A leg or a thigh?
-If beef, can we adjust the marbling?
-Simulate grass fed vs beef fed flavor?

So wierd…
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From reading a couple of articles, my understanding is (but I'm just SGOTI):

No; No
just white
don't know
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N/A
 
Racerx said:
If we can create lab meat, do we have lab grown organs yet? #priorities
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I think you're switching from organs for food to organs for transplant, right? If so, yes, that's being researched. With some cool progress being made in the past few years.

https://med.stanford.edu/snyderlab/...esearchers-take-early--critical-step-tow.html

https://www.gavi.org/vaccineswork/l...-time-here-are-three-other-ways-making-organs

https://www.science.org/content/article/lab-grown-minihearts-beat-real-thing

https://link.springer.com/article/10.1007/s00114-002-0344-9
 
Racerx said:
If we can create lab meat, do we have lab grown organs yet? #priorities
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I would guess that perhaps the barriers would be ethical, not technical.
 
Sure. I tend to opt for Veggie, Impossible, and Beyond.
In my opinion, the meat is the least flavorful thing on a burger. IE we add 19 other things to it to make it good and season the hell out of the meat.

If you think about it, just plain meat isn't really that good without butter, salt, garlic, etc etc.
I do try to eat as few animals as possible and rarely find them to be the star of the food item.
Also, my teeth look way more like a cow's than a bears.

Can you tell I would really like to be a vegetarian but Ahi tuna is so damn good. Wouldn't take much for me to convert.
 
SkyChaser said:
As a previous poster said, "we"? Maybe a lot of people eat a lot of heavily processed, premade foods and would barely notice more, but we eat surprisingly little premade, "fake" food at our house. For example, I made mac n cheese last night, but I used real milk, real cheese I had to shred, real bacon that I had to fry before I could cut it up into bacon bits, and real chicken that I had to season and bake. I make sure to buy real butter, and always use real sugar. The real stuff just tastes better and is more filling, less addictive, and easier for the human body to extract nutrients from.

Also, that diet pop stuff is nasty, with or without the lab-created sugar, and I stay as far away from it and fake sugar as possible. And I'm not even one of those avoid-all-chemical-preservatives-at-all-costs type of people. When you eat a lot of good food, you just don't really crave junk food at all.

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mob I don’t disagree, I refuse to drink diet pop, rather have water than that nasty crap, other processed foods I eat my fair share if but agree with you real food is better and likely better for you. I’d love to drink raw milk if it wasn’t so expensive to buy a cow share even..

I was painting with a broad brush- tgat even though many most of us are a bit put off by lab meat, if it works and is economical en mass, certainly with plenty of exceptions, we will be eating it by the train car load soon…
 
MauleSkinner said:
What do you mean “we”, Kimosabe?
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painting with a broad brush of Americans as a whole… certainly plenty of exceptions but as a whole most Americans fit my description in some way. I eat most anything but refuse to consume artificial sweeteners as they taste horrid and I figure it’s worse for ya than sugar or even corn syrup- but in a pinch I’ll grab a gut rot burger or cook up a strouffers lasagna. But yes there are folks who eat farm fresh Whole Foods always- wasn’t trying to say there wasn’t…
 
Time to start raising my own meat.....this is beyond GMO o_O


don't tell me it's the same as McD's chicken nuggets..... :D
 
Huckster79 said:
.... I’d love to drink raw milk if it wasn’t so expensive to buy a cow share even..
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um, raw milk can have dangerous germs. There is a very good reason why milk is pasteurized.

Sometimes, "processing" can be a good thing... even a necessary thing.
 
We are at a place where folks have bought into living a processed life..... o_O
 
Checkout_my_Six said:
Time to start raising my own meat.....this is beyond GMO o_O


don't tell me it's the same as McD's chicken nuggets..... :D
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I bet if it becomes economical it will be in McDonald’s chicken nuggets :)
 
As a child, our milk came from a small dairy that pasteurized their milk.

On a farm, working for the summer, I milked a cow, and drank unprocessed milk from a cow certified to be healthy.

Our family shared a house for 2 years with a couple, and the husband had spent over a year in a sanatorium being cured of tuberculosis, which left him unable to do physical labor, and he drove a cab.


When I was stationed in Italy, drinking local milk was a court martial offense, the milk was not pasteurized, tuberculosis and 2 other milk born diseases were common in the herds.

One brand of ice cream was pasteurized, and single serve packaged was OK.

City water was also unprocessed, and we drank wine, beer, or soft drinks while away from the post, which had it own purification plant.

Some of the processing we do commonly is essential for our health, and I remember class mates, and later friends, who had Polio, co workers crippled from eating pork that gave them trichinosis. Imagine 50 years old, and unable to straighten up enough to drive a car, or with braces andspecial shoes that had to be removed for bed, and crutches as an every day support needed to leave the bed.

Polio and trichinosis are practically unknown today.
 
The problem isn’t the unprocessed food products…the problem is the food products coming from unhealthy animals and/or are improperly handled.
 
geezer said:
Cattle are surprisingly efficient extractors of the desired ingredients they need to grow, producing consistently delicious meat.
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Depending on how you view it, cows (especially dairy cows) convert crops unsuitable for human consumption into food. Heck, where do you think bad batches of Skittles go?
 
MauleSkinner said:
The problem isn’t the unprocessed food products…the problem is the food products coming from unhealthy animals and/or are improperly handled.
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And unlike the animal, lab meat wouldn't have an immune system and barrier (skin). Do you trust a scaling up of a sterile lab process to mass produced commodity?
 
I find the whole concept hilarious from a social point of view. First there was the "pink slime" debacle. The media and public were horrified to find out where their ground beef patties came from. Then a few years later some of the same fast food places launch their "Impossible" burgers made out of 0 meat. Now we are manufacturing meat out of thin air.

I happen to know someone that was involved in the pink slime issue. According to my source, the news agency that started that story paid heavily in a very quiet settlement regarding the libel lawsuit and misrepresenting the facts.
 
midwestpa24 said:
I find the whole concept hilarious from a social point of view. First there was the "pink slime" debacle. The media and public were horrified to find out where their ground beef patties came from. Then a few years later some of the same fast food places launch their "Impossible" burgers made out of 0 meat. Now we are manufacturing meat out of thin air.

I happen to know someone that was involved in the pink slime issue. According to my source, the news agency that started that story paid heavily in a very quiet settlement regarding the libel lawsuit and misrepresenting the facts.
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Story checks out... Except for it being a quiet settlement

"(Reuters) - Walt Disney Co paid $177 million, in addition to insurance recoveries, to settle the closely watched “pink slime” defamation case "
 
Will I eat it?

No
Oh hell No!
Hell to the NO!
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A couple months ago my wife brought home a bag of chicken nuggets that they serve the kids at school.

She warmed up a few in the air fryer. I took one and broke it open. Nope, not eating this.

Then she put a couple of the nuggets in the dogs bowl. The dog sniffed them, then looked up at us (the thought balloon over her head said....You gotta be kidding) and she walked away leaving the mystery meat uneaten.
 
Zeldman said:
A couple months ago my wife brought home a bag of chicken nuggets that they serve the kids at school.

She warmed up a few in the air fryer. I took one and broke it open. Nope, not eating this.

Then she put a couple of the nuggets in the dogs bowl. The dog sniffed them, then looked up at us (the thought balloon over her head said....You gotta be kidding) and she walked away leaving the mystery meat uneaten.
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I did something similar with the dog when the tide pod challenge was all the rage. Pretended it was a treat and tried to give it to her. Sniffed it from a foot away and she knew it wasn't food.
 
I'm not against the idea, but I don't want to be the first to try it either.
 
Pi1otguy said:
Would it be vegan the same way that human milk is vegan?
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Vegan? I can’t imagine how it could be. I can’t see the distinction between this and, for example, dairy or eggs. They’re not synthesizing this stuff from plant proteins or anything. The cells came from a chicken, either killed or about to be killed, or at the very least the cells were taken without the chicken’s informed consent that her cells and genetic material would be used in this way.

I personally don’t have a big ethical problem with any of the above, but I can see where a true vegan would.

Now… would I eat it? I’d probably try it, but I suspect any actual flavor would be artificial. Of course they can probably just pre salt-inject the stuff before it comes out of the tank. Betting it’s used for nuggets and mass market Chinese food first.
 
DaleB said:
Vegan? I can’t imagine how it could be. I can’t see the distinction between this and, for example, dairy or eggs.
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Ahh yes, forgot about harvesting the sample. It's not exactly a cheek swab
 
ElPaso Pilot said:
Heck no.

This is going to be expensive for a long time.

Pet food is the cheap ground up stuff from the processing plant that people won't eat.
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Sounds almost like what this new stuff is. :)
 
DaleB said:
The new stuff is expensive stuff from labs that people won't eat.
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False.

People are eating a wide variety of fake meats already and the market is growing rapidly. There doesn't seem to be any reason to believe the cultured meat market will be any different.
 
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