ROTFLMAO! That bit about the estrogen really got me worried. I don't know why, since I don't eat tofu anyway. I guess I do use soy sauce sometimes. So, I ran a quick google search and some doctor says meat is worse than soy!
And that "one thing" would be... ?Those who ate an American Heart Assocoation diet ate the same stuff, except for one difference, as those on a Mediterranean diet, but they fared so much worse an ethics committee stopped the Lyon study after two years. That one difference is a thing meat eaters and vegetarians eat in common, but not vegans on the Esselstyn diet. So, to achieve the Mediterranean result no matter which of the two diets you're on... you need to know what that one thing is, then don't eat it. Anyone on an Esselstyn diet oughtn't be tarred with the same brush as studies done on typical vegetarians and vegans.
Good one on the Obama paraphrase, btw.
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Eeow. I don't want to say because seeing how everything fits--all those omegas, EPA & DHAs, fatty acids, certain vitamins, enzymes, inflamation, etc., on those charts the good professor draws is the single best description I've ever seen. Even meat eaters could benefit from knowing exactly what is protecting them the most and what's not. I'd rather have an expert explain it than me. I will say that the main part of the story begins at the 19:00 min mark.And that "one thing" would be... ?
Yes I watched the whole thing. It was good. The two main takeaways as regards CAD mortality were: decrease saturated and omega-6 rich polyunsaturated fats, increase monounsaturated and omega-3 rich polyunsaturated fats, eat no trans fat; and keep your homocystine levels down, most importantly by adequate vitamin B-12 intake.
Your Cliff Notes are good, but of the six or seven items you mention I'm still standing by my statement that just one of them is the significant difference between the control group (American Heart Association Diet) and the Mediterranean group that lowered their risk of heart attack by 70%.
The only thing clearly not eaten by the Mediterranean diet group is trans fat. It's not clear to me though whether the other group ate trans fat -- it is, after all, listed by AHA as having a maximum daily intake of "zero", as the speaker said several times.
Where has that been shown? Maybe I'm misremembering his comment, but Esselstyn's criticism of the study was that it didn't compare the Mediterranean diet to a "true low-fat" diet.
Sure, but I don't expect to get another free 1:16 to just sit and watch it again until, say, March.It was good, wasn't it? I've watched it three times.
The only red meat we eat is venison. I'll compare my blood test results with anyone. No transfats, and almost zero fat in general in venison, period.
The pharmaceutical companies love this line of thinking.
It isn't trans fat, since both groups ate meat and according to the professor meat has trans fats. Also, it was the National Academy of Sciences that said zero is the upper limit for them, not the AHA during the Lyon study.
I think you are referring to Dr. T. Colin Campbell's comments below Dr. Esselstyn's letter, I believe to the NY Times: http://heartattackproof.com/spanish_study.htm
You gave it away. Leaf eating is an emotional diet not a scientific one.
Sudden cardiac arrest. Certain things work to protect, others do damage. No matter what you eat it helps to know which is which.Protecting them from what?
If you think breaking 40 was bad, wait til you pass 65 (even with strict portion control and expanded exercise) ....
Watch three minutes of this then, skip over the first :58 minutes to cut to the chase:
Undigestable vegetable matter (fiber) is necessary for digestive health.
I've certainly never been able to eat anything I want without gaining weight. I gain weight quickly when I do that. I'm pretty damn strict with my diet, certainly more strict then basically every forty year old I know.
I stand corrected on who gave the upper limit of zero. However I'd like to see a reference for meat having trans fats. I'm aware that meat is loaded with SATURATED fats -- but cis fats can be saturated too. I was under the impression that trans fats are a by-product of the hydrogenation process, and that naturally occurring fats are exclusively (or almost exclusively) cis.
And the 18 case study, what exactly does he compare? His diet versus Mediterranean diet? Or something else? (Also, it it clear that results on individuals with diagnosed, severe heart disease can be extrapolated directly to "normals"?)
