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blueskyMD

blueskyMD

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last week I went on local flying , just a joy ride around the area with practice approach at Dubois. I did not contact ATC and was squawking 1200 all the time. Out of curiosity today I checked my tail number on Flight aware and there it was , my entire flight track with all the information about altitude and speed etc. So looks like if you have ADS=B you will be continuously tracked even if you dont want to.
 
Why would a person not want to be tracked in semi busy airspace.??
 
Zeldman said:
Why would a person not want to be tracked in semi busy airspace.??
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Something about the deep state and big brother. Or just privacy. I do wish they had encrypted it all, but generally the FAA does have a need to know imho. And encryption makes the primary purpose less reliable...


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blueskyMD said:
So looks like if you have ADS=B you will be continuously tracked even if you dont want to.
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You're saying this as though its a surprise. Wasn't that the whole idea behind ADS-B?
 
I dont really care if I am tracked or not just thought that it will not do it while squawking 1200
 
gsengle said:
Something about the deep state and big brother. Or just privacy. I do wish they had encrypted it all, but generally the FAA does have a need to know imho. And encryption makes the primary purpose less reliable...
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Ok, I can see some people might be bothered with that. I was thinking about the times I have been in BF Alaska and thinking if I have to make an unplanned off airport landing it would have been nice if someone knew where to start looking for the remains.
 
gsengle said:
Something about the deep state and big brother. Or just privacy. I do wish they had encrypted it all, but generally the FAA does have a need to know imho. And encryption makes the primary purpose less reliable...


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Good thing I use my partner’s discrete code when I fly the plane so B.B. can KMA.
 
Landing Fees said:
Good thing I use my partner’s discrete code when I fly the plane so B.B. can KMA.
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You change the hard wired ID in a 1080es transponder?


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blueskyMD said:
last week I went on local flying , just a joy ride around the area with practice approach at Dubois. I did not contact ATC and was squawking 1200 all the time. Out of curiosity today I checked my tail number on Flight aware and there it was , my entire flight track with all the information about altitude and speed etc. So looks like if you have ADS=B you will be continuously tracked even if you dont want to.
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Yep....

I flew out of Central FL two weeks ago, picked up Flight Following, All they asked for was position and tail #. A few sec later, that called radar contact, PA32 state destination and requested Alt. Never told them PA32/G or anything. Later I was called out for traffic and they called a Lance to the other guy. Every one of my flights now show up, even just piddling around, 1200, not talking to anyone. GTX345 installed 2 years ago. Big brother is watching!
 
blueskyMD said:
I dont really care if I am tracked or not just thought that it will not do it while squawking 1200
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Radar tracks your transponder, but with your Never-Turn-It-Off ADSB Out device, it broadcasts all the time and identifies you all the time. Surely this is not still a surprise to everyone? That's the reason (besides the stupid-high cost due to certification requirements) that the FAA gives you traffic, weather, etc., in return--you fell for the carrot, too distracted to see the stick.
 
Hank S said:
Radar tracks your transponder, but with your Never-Turn-It-Off ADSB Out device, it broadcasts all the time and identifies you all the time. Surely this is not still a surprise to everyone? That's the reason (besides the stupid-high cost due to certification requirements) that the FAA gives you traffic, weather, etc., in return--you fell for the carrot, too distracted to see the stick.
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Some of us actually knew this was the deal and didn’t fall for anything...


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gsengle said:
You change the hard wired ID in a 1080es transponder?


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Sometime I change it in flight. You might notice you were flying in Colorado yesterday, a nice leisurely flight around Longmont and Carter Lake and then back to Metro.
 
You can change the flight id, but not the equipment id


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FYI

Mode-S/ADS-B identifies the aircraft uniquely among all in the world, in a similar fashion as a MAC number for an Ethernet card or the International Mobile Equipment Identity (IMEI) of a GSM phone.[citation needed] However, the FAA is allowing UAT-equipped aircraft to utilize a random self-assigned temporary ICAO address in conjunction with the use of beacon code 1200. 1090 ES equipped aircraft using ADS-B will not have this option.[57]

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Automatic_dependent_surveillance_–_broadcast


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blueskyMD said:
last week I went on local flying , just a joy ride around the area with practice approach at Dubois. I did not contact ATC and was squawking 1200 all the time. Out of curiosity today I checked my tail number on Flight aware and there it was , my entire flight track with all the information about altitude and speed etc. So looks like if you have ADS=B you will be continuously tracked even if you dont want to.
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Lolz!

What did you think it was for, it ain’t for your “saftey”
 
Timbeck2 said:
Meh - anyone with a cell phone or computer can look up your tail number on the FAA registration site and get your full address among other things.
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Most people are blissfully unaware as well how many license plate readers are out there too for instance...


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Timbeck2 said:
Meh - anyone with a cell phone or computer can look up your tail number on the FAA registration site and get your full address among other things.
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You registered your plane to your name and home address??
 
Before I knew about an LLC. I look up a lot of N numbers I see on radar that violate the airspace.
 
gsengle said:
You can change the flight id, but not the equipment id


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I do what I want and if I want to fly under your hex code I will. Mostly I don't care. Just like with LPRs if you ain't doing nothing then I won't do a license-plate search on you.
 
Landing Fees said:
I do what I want and if I want to fly under your hex code I will. Mostly I don't care. Just like with LPRs if you ain't doing nothing then I won't do a license-plate search on you.
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They’re hard coded...


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Silvaire said:
Technically they don’t know where you are, just your airplane.
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Unfortunately I’m the only one that flys my plane.

If some poor sap had a female friend out of town and his wife tracked his plane he might have some spalaining to do.

I guess you could always turn it off and go vfr within the mandate.
 
You can request it from the faa or log in to the website, there is a box to check that says hide address or similar.
My address is hidden:)
 
1RTK1 said:
Unfortunately I’m the only one that flys my plane.

If some poor sap had a female friend out of town and his wife tracked his plane he might have some spalaining to do.

I guess you could always turn it off and go vfr within the mandate.
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If you have installed ADSB Out, you are not supposed to turn it off, airspace be durned. Them's just the rules . . . .
 
Hint; the "S" in ADS-B doesn't stand for "Safety"
 
paflyer said:
Hint; the "S" in ADS-B doesn't stand for "Safety"
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