The "Royal We"

Jim K

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I did it again today. Actually I do it every time I fly, although I was more conscious of it than usual today. I was solo and referred to myself as "we" when speaking to ATC. I don't understand how I started doing it. Maybe it's primacy from learning the lingo while sitting next to an instructor?

It used to bother me, and I made an effort to stop doing it. Then I bought my plane and it struck me as appropriate to speak for both of us...me & her. Yes, I anthropomorphize my airplane. So I gave up and embraced the "royal we".

I think most pilots do it.... right? I'm not a weirdo? I also feel like we've had this discussion before, but "we" is too short to search.
 
MauleSkinner said:
Is that the singular “you” or the plural “you”?
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The thread is about The "Royal We" and/or he may have a split personality (as in the Three Faces of Eve) so we can't answer that question ... ;)
 
In the very old days royalties were saying "we" with the implication being that they speak for themselves and for God. All you have to do is get a "God is my co-pilot" sticker and you're good to go.
 
I was on my long student solo cross country (Z98 MKG LAN GRR Z98) in a 152 and after I did my landing at MKG, I had the urge to go. I didn't know the where the FBO at Lansing really was and figured I could make it to Grand Rapids. I'm straight in for 26L and all is good. Thn tower gives me a 2 minute 360 so a jet can land on 35. I comply but now it's getting urgent. Lined back up, about a minute from touchdown and tower asks my destination on the field. Having no shame, I respond, "wherever the nearest bathroom is." Tower laughs on the air, and lets me know where.

And that's my "royal wee" story.
 
Huh - never thought about it. If it's just me, I say 'I'. Otherwise I'll use 'we'.
 
Jim K said:
I did it again today. Actually I do it every time I fly, although I was more conscious of it than usual today. I was solo and referred to myself as "we" when speaking to ATC. I don't understand how I started doing it. Maybe it's primacy from learning the lingo while sitting next to an instructor?

It used to bother me, and I made an effort to stop doing it. Then I bought my plane and it struck me as appropriate to speak for both of us...me & her. Yes, I anthropomorphize my airplane. So I gave up and embraced the "royal we".

I think most pilots do it.... right? I'm not a weirdo? I also feel like we've had this discussion before, but "we" is too short to search.
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I started a similar thread on the red board years ago about this very same topic. It’s quite interesting. I think because everyone else on the frequency is a we, it just becomes the de facto pronoun choice when communicating on the radio regardless of how many are onboard. And if there’s a question, as you mentioned, the anthropomorphic plane gets a vote too, so of course it’s “we”.

Related, do pilots of single seat fighters say “I”?
 
Brad Z said:
I started a similar thread on the red board years ago about this very same topic. It’s quite interesting. I think because everyone else on the frequency is a we, it just becomes the de facto pronoun choice when communicating on the radio regardless of how many are onboard. And if there’s a question, as you mentioned, the anthropomorphic plane gets a vote too, so of course it’s “we”.

Related, do pilots of single seat fighters say “I”?
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Only if they can chase away all the voices in their head.
 
I say "we" a lot even outside the plane. I always thought it was a Midwestern thing.
 
TIL 'wewe' means 'you' in swahili
 
Brad Z said:
I started a similar thread on the red board years ago about this very same topic. It’s quite interesting. I think because everyone else on the frequency is a we, it just becomes the de facto pronoun choice when communicating on the radio regardless of how many are onboard. And if there’s a question, as you mentioned, the anthropomorphic plane gets a vote too, so of course it’s “we”.

Related, do pilots of single seat fighters say “I”?
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Been flying single-seat airplanes almost exclusively for almost 40 years, and don't use "we." Might be because of a lack of poetry in my soul, might be because I consider the airplane something I wear rather than ride in.

Richard Bach, in "Stranger to the Ground", doesn't use "we."

Ron Wanttaja
 
Just don't say it's because you have a split personality, or the FAA may get into your business.
 
I think we were talking about this a few days ago…
 
Half Fast said:
Per the AIM, “we” should only be used when flying royal Beech aircraft, like a Duchess or a Baron or a King Air.
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Mitsubishi Marquise?
Cessna Chancellor?
Duke? I'd look good in a Duke....
 
I had one instructor that encouraged me to talk to the plane. Sometimes I still do when I get frustrated:

 
I’ve been saying “we” for decades. I don’t know where I picked it up, but probably from others on the radio.
 
Jim K said:
So I gave up and embraced the "royal we".

I think most pilots do it.... right?
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I’m not so sure, your majesty.
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I always assumed it came from airline crews, who supposedly, both cockpit crew members agreed on a course of action.
 
In my 28 years as an aviator so far, only about 150 hours has it been just “I” in the aircraft. All other times, there’s a “we.” So yeah, I get it.
 
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