TangoWhiskey
Touchdown! Greaser!
Sounds like a great trip you have planned, Kimberly! Can't wait to hear all about it and see the pictures when it's done!
Some places have a guy come out with a fuel truck. If you don't stand over him or her and watch like a hawk, they can put too much gas in your airplane. I've had it happen more than once.
If you are self serving, that is a different deal, as you are less likely to put too much gas in your airplane. But I like enough that I can get to a couple of alternates and still have reserves. My thinking is my destination being fogged in should not constitute an emergency. A 150 doesn't take that much fuel. I recall fueling mine all the dang time. Thus the amount you can leave behind is limited.
If your SO is really 5'11'' and 120 lbs, I'd like to know what he's eating so I can get some. When I weighed 135 lbs I was skinny as a rail (and handsome as all get out, my mother said so) at 5'7" . If that really is the case I withdraw my comments. When I saw your photo I made some mental calculations about your SO which are violently wrong if he's 120 lbs. But dang, you should feed him a ham sandwich or something. Have him tested for intestinal parasites.
I do agree with the other posters that such trips are what life was made for. The conditions rang some alarm bells based on long experience. Sounds like I might have been mistaken.
In the 120's means up to 130 but yes I have a digital scale.
Here, evidence:
The 150 has a 70 pound lower gross weight, not 70 pounds less payload (1600# vs. 1670#). My 150L has a useful load of 519#, which is actually 10# more than another 152 in our flying club. The 152 simply has a higher empty weight. Everybody picks on the 150I see the 150's have 70lbs less payload than a 152.
Guess it really depends on the size of the passengers. I agree that only having an hour and a half's worth of gas would suck. If she can cram 15-18 gallons in though she'll be just fine. She is planning a fuel stop both ways.
I'm about 5'10 and my girlfriend is about 5'5. In the 152 I have about 70 pounds for luggage after full fuel. 95-100 kts at 5gph. So that makes it comfortable for a longer trip. Bladders are limited to 3hrs anyway, so I always land with mucho comfortable fuel reserves.
If I was missing that extra 70lbs it would be a pain in the rear though.
Honestly the 152 is great for me as a traveler. About $45 an hour incl maintenance if i can get my hands on mogas. $50 an hour on my nashville trip considering I have to buy about 20 gallons of 100LL
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Once upon a time I weighted 180 at 6'5" and was called the zipper model but I've grown out of that
You guys should have no problem. Assuming a useful load of 490# (conservative) and his weight of 135# (liberal, from you), your weight of what, 135# (hope I didn't p*** you off), full useable fuel of 135# (22.5 gals.), you've got an extra 85#. You two, full fuel and a little luggage, do it! :wink2:
And my weight will not be disclosed in this thread! I'm not as small as some of those photos suggest.....
Sounds like a great plan, being a 150, make sure you do a good w&b, especially with luggage. I know how my wife packs for a 4 day trip.
Are you sure both you and your boyfriend, plus luggage, can fit? It wont be as fun if you have to stop hourly for fuel.
But it does sound fun!
It sounds like so much fun. I'm jealous!We do plan to stop for fuel a little more than an hour from home but that's OK. I will still get to count the whole thing as XC time for sure, and landing at more airports will make me feel more comfortable going back to them in the future.
I will try my best to pack light but you are correct, I'm not very good at that. Plus, weather dependent, it might not be a 4-day trip. In other words, if Friday is crappy and Saturday looks better, with the BF's permission, I'll decide to take off one day late on Saturday. If not, we'll drive on Friday. If we can't fly by Saturday, then, obviously, we'll drive.
Doesn't he have family driving that could take your luggage?
I hear an echo in here. Helooooo!
I was wondering about that too. Back when I got my private they were still requiring three 100 mile legs for the long solo X-C. That's a little challenging in CA because it has the ocean on one side and the Sierras on the other so the middle leg gets pretty long.How can anyone complain about a 200nm trip in a 150.
How can anyone complain about a 200nm trip in a 150.
You should check out:
cessna150152.com
The people in this club will travel from California or the East Coast to Clinton Iowa during Oshkosh for their Annual get together.
Some take I80 across others go South, but the thing is, they take these planes and fly them for a REAL Cross country and have a great time doing so.
Don't sell the 150 short!
(P.S. They usually send their supplies ahead via UPS to the airport In Iowa, and only bring along minimal bags in the plane)
My 150 only had 451lbs load - subract 138lbs for full fuel and that left 313 for me and a friend. I'm thinking I was overweight on most takeoff's.
When leaving Las Vegas (solo) It took about 30miles to reach my cruise altitude of 8,500 for my trip home.
But the plane was fun, and I put alot of hours into it.
Enjoy your trip!!
I only complain because I don't fit in them, great planes if you aren't 6'4"
I was wondering about that too. Back when I got my private they were still requiring three 100 mile legs for the long solo X-C. That's a little challenging in CA because it has the ocean on one side and the Sierras on the other so the middle leg gets pretty long.
Have a great time Kimberly! Coincidentally, that's a weekend I am planning to be in the Bay Area, the first weekend since we went to Little River. I've been here a couple times since then (like now) but they were all on weekdays.
So far, so good! Glad to hear it!So far, the research is promising.
One of the cross country flight when I was a student pilot was from LVK to L52. L52 is a nice little airport with several good restaurants in close proximity for a leisury lunch trip. But if you are not staying near L52 there is no reason to park your plane there. When planning your route to San Luis Obispo, don't head straight to Priest VOR. It'll be much more comfortable to fly in the valley right over 101 highway instead. The mountainous terrain between Hollister to Priest VOR is susceptible to turbulence. If you plan for fuel stop at Hollister that means you'll need to go a little bit around to avoid the mountain and Condor preservation area. Watsonville or Salinas may be a better option.
If I have a yoke mounted Garmin and a paid iPad / currently updated / foreflight subscription, are "old" sectionals ok?
So will this be legal:
Garmin yoke mounted GPS (not sure if updated)
Current Foreflight GPS (tested and working so far)
OLD AFD
OLD TAC (not really needed)
OLD Sectionals (two, super cool I'm spanning two sectionals)
Or do I need to buy a new AFD, TAC, and two sectionals for this trip?
Kimberly
Interesting. Don't have a sectional with me now but I think I may need to buy a Los Angeles sectional to cover the whole flight AND I think they are expiring.
Question:
If I have a yoke mounted Garmin and a paid iPad / currently updated / foreflight subscription, are "old" sectionals ok?
I gave away my Los Angeles sectional from the checkride to a student who needed it for their checkride, and I have an "old" SF area TAC and a "current" SF sectional.
So will this be legal:
Garmin yoke mounted GPS (not sure if updated)
Current Foreflight GPS (tested and working so far)
OLD AFD
OLD TAC (not really needed)
OLD Sectionals (two, super cool I'm spanning two sectionals)
Or do I need to buy a new AFD, TAC, and two sectionals for this trip?
Kimberly
Hmmmm. The owner of the flight school suggested Oceano (and recently BillWil said he wanted to go there in his PilotCast podcast). It appears Oceano cannot be an alternate since it breaks my rental agreement. I emailed the owner about this.
Rental agreement:
Paved only, 2400 feet long or longer
Oceano: 2325 feet long
Darn. I guess as some others have said if weather is a REAL issue I can just go to the next big airport, more inland, at Paso Robles. The FBO listed on AirNav seems to go to an answering machine which won't take messages. Wonder if it is old info.
Oceano is near the ocean and seems to be less than 10nm away from San Luis Obispo so I can't imagine the weather would ever be better there.
Expect the unexpected.
This is one part of XC flying that you can't really train for. My last big trip was to Grand Cayman, which required a long stretch from FL to the island. Before leaving FL, I called and confirmed they had fuel. In the 3.6 hours it took me to get there, they ran out of fuel. Since they were the only source of 100LL on the entire island and I didn't have enough fuel to get anywhere, I was stuck. The FBO ended up finding a customer based there who was willing to let me siphon the fuel I needed out of his plane.
Ryan