The G-20 Comes to Pittsburgh...

[dmccormack]

Both founded by the French, right? Pittsburgh was originally "Ft. Duquesne," and "St. Louis" speaks for itself. Both critical hubs in the expansion to the frontier, as well.

Yup, I'm convinced that they're practically identical.

Correct!

The French founded both, and had explored the west long before Lewis or Clark were a twinkle.

(Sacajawea's husband Charbonneau was a French Trader).

 

[Teller1900]

Correct!

The French founded both, and had explored the west long before Lewis or Clark were a twinkle.

(Sacajawea's husband Charbonneau was a French Trader).

Alright, alright, I get it. I was merely commenting on the fact that we both thought "huh, the scenery around this road and the one in STL look really similar," and you had to go and get all historical with it.

 

[dmccormack]

Alright, alright, I get it. I was merely commenting on the fact that we both thought "huh, the scenery around this road and the one in STL look really similar," and you had to go and get all historical with it.

hehehehe



Though I always enjoy looking out on the city when whatever airline I'm on does the visual into PIT.

 

[Obi Heed Kenobi]

Correct!

The French founded both, and had explored the west long before Lewis or Clark were a twinkle.

(Sacajawea's husband Charbonneau was a French Trader).

I'll say - American frontier history is some of the most interesting, and most compelling, stuff you can ever look at.

Anybody's who's got any interest in the subject would do well to read Allen Eckert's series. They're not like ordinary history books - they read more like novels.

I'll put it like this - there's a whole new perspective on things when you know why half the towns in Ohio/Indiana are Clarks[burgh/ville/town/dale] or Zanes[same].

 

[steingar]

I'll say - American frontier history is some of the most interesting, and most compelling, stuff you can ever look at.

Anybody's who's got any interest in the subject would do well to read Allen Eckert's series. They're not like ordinary history books - they read more like novels.

I'll put it like this - there's a whole new perspective on things when you know why half the towns in Ohio/Indiana are Clarks[burgh/ville/town/dale] or Zanes[same].

There is only one city named Zanesville, which I believe is the birthplace of the eponymous author. I am not aware of an enrichment in Clarks_____ anything in Ohio.

 

[dmccormack]

I'll say - American frontier history is some of the most interesting, and most compelling, stuff you can ever look at.

Anybody's who's got any interest in the subject would do well to read Allen Eckert's series. They're not like ordinary history books - they read more like novels.

I'll put it like this - there's a whole new perspective on things when you know why half the towns in Ohio/Indiana are Clarks[burgh/ville/town/dale] or Zanes[same].

I agree completely -- my primary interest has always been the French and Indian War era. I grew up climbing on the ramparts of Quebec. What more compelling drama than a winner-take-all battle where both aristocratic Generals die?

Eckert is interesting. He cherry picked from the more fantastic/ dramatic tales and assembled them into quasi-history books. They are good reads, but when you do some fact checking you may be disappointed.

Parkman is still a rip-roaring read.

:smile:

 

[t0r0nad0]

I can kind of see Teller's point. Both cities have pretty skylines, both cities have airports west of downtown, you pass both cities' downtown areas on a straight-in final if the winds are out of the northwest, both cities have rivers running through them and the rivers join to become larger rivers. And, until about 8 years ago, both cities had identical baseball/football stadiums.

FWIW, Cincinnati actually reminds me more of St. Louis from the ground. Coincidentally, it's another city that used to have an identical baseball/football stadium (St. Louis was the last one to get rid of that design about 3 years ago). But, there is a river that runs through it, separating the city from another state on the other side. The downtown districts saw their heyday about 30-40 years ago and industry has been steadily moving out to the suburbs in both places since then. Both downtowns are trying desperately to revitalize and bring people back in. Both baseball teams have red and white as their colors. Growing up in St. Louis, I felt right at home when visiting Cincinnati.