Student Pilot/Medical Cert.

[tonycondon]

Just got this notice from the FAA:

CFI Emphasis Item
Notice Number: NOTC0699

CFI Emphasis Item: Proper Endorsement of Student Pilots


Recently, several student pilots (under 40 years of age) have shown up for their FAA Private Pilot Practical with an expired STUDENT PILOT CERTIFICATE, however their third class medical was still valid.

CFIs, during your next review of the regulations, make sure to re-read 14 CFR 61.91-Duration of Pilot and Instructor Certificates. Specifically paragraph (b) Student Pilot Certificate, states: "a student pilot certificate expires 24 calendar months from the month in which it is issued."

Remember, IAW 14 CFR 61.23(d)(3)(ii)(A), the third class medical expires at the end of the 36th month after the month of the date of examination if the person has not reached his or her 40th birthday on or before the date of examination.

When endorsing a student pilot, be sure to check the dates of both the Medical and the Student Pilot Certificate. Even if they are on opposite sides of ! the same piece of paper they may have different expiration dates.

All endorsements are clearly outlined in AC 61-65E and can be found at:
http://www.airweb.faa.gov/Regulatory_and_Guidance_Library/rgAdvisoryCircular.nsf/0/2E1337FC395E0A33862570D0005EA8A2?OpenDocument&Highlight=61

Important thing to remember. It is sad how many CFIs I have come across that dont know the intricacies of this stuff. Many think that a Student Pilot/Medical Certificate is one in the same.
http://www.airweb.faa.gov/Regulator...A33862570D0005EA8A2?OpenDocument&Highlight=61

 

[ScottM]

Easy to see how this could happen when for the student, both certificates are printed on the same piece of paper. Maybe the FAA should seperate them.

 

[tonycondon]

maybe they should have clearly printed expiration dates for each, then test the student and CFI on their duration.

oh wait...nevermind.

 

[woodstock]

I had this very thing come up - I was on top of it though. oh believe me, with all the BS I've had to wade through - I'm definitely on top of this kind of stuff.

it's not hard to get renewed, you just have to fill out the paperwork.

 

[poadeleted20]

This wasn't a problem before the FAA extended the medical duration to 36 months for the under-40 crowd. In any event, CFI's are supposed to be teaching this stuff to their students, and are tested on it, and are reminded of it during FIRC's, so there's really no excuse for a CFI to be signing an 8710-1 for, and sending to an examiner, a PPL applicant with an expired Student Pilot Certificate. As the FAA points out, this is an instructor responsibility.