strange sound from C-172

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Just wanted to see if anyone else had experienced something similar to this. I have just recently obtained my pilot's license and was renting a Cessna 172. I had only flown a 172 on one other occasion when I got checked out about 2 weeks prior. All of my training had been done in a 162. I only mention all of this because I don't know if this is a particular quirk of 172s or not.

Shortly after starting the engine and while not moving, I began to notice an intermittent noise that I can best describe as a washing machine that gets off balance. I do not remember hearing it at all the first time I flew in this same aircraft for my checkout. If I had, I would have definitely asked my instructor because it was a little alarming. It was a loud, rhythmic "WHOPWHOPWHOPWHOPWHOPWHOP." It even felt like there was a vibration in the plane in sync with the noise like the damn thing was going to rattle itself apart. It was even louder when I took my headphones off, so it was definitely not related to something in the electronics. It would start and build to maximum intensity over about 1-2 seconds, then usually dissipate after about 5-10 seconds. It seemed to mainly occur when the RPM was between 800-1400, and it occurred both during taxi and while stationary, so likely not something wrong with landing gear. I did not notice it during the runup or at any time during flight. It started again after I landed and was taxiing back to the hanger. Just before I rented the plane, my flight instructor had JUST landed in the same plane about 10 minutes before, and he had reported no issues. The very next person after me also apparently reported no issues. When I asked him afterwards, my instructor mentioned that sometimes the way the wind hits the prop can cause this type of noise and that he hears it quite frequently in the 172s. The wind was around 4-5 knots that day, so I'm not sure if that could be the answer or not.

In retrospect, I probably should not have even taken off without at least having an instructor hop in with me and hear it for themself, but thankfully nothing bad resulted.

Does this sound remotely familiar to anyone?
 
Maybe ask your FBO about it?
 
I've never experienced something like that in either of the 172s I fly regularly. If you don't feel comfortable I would have an instructor and/or mechanic take a look at it.
 
Seat Belt hanging out the door can make that noise when it slaps the side of the airplane.

Brian
 
Seat belt would be my guess. I've definitely done that a couple of times!
 
The seatbelt and the door ajar are both pretty good suggestions. I will check that next time. Thanks all!
 
"WHOPWHOPWHOPWHOPWHOPWHOP."

I am of Italian descent and I take offense to that!:D

hmm...seatbelt?? I doubt that if you were taxiing. Was it missing? Hmm..Id take it to a mechanic or get your CFI in the plane to listen to it as well. Maybe its nothing and your more sensitive to a new plane. I know the wind hitting the prop can make some different noises but I wouldn't think a whop sound. Or as my mom would always say, if it makes noise in that RPM range, do not go in that rpm range. Well..you know what I mean..mom it hurts when I raise my arm...well don't raise you arm .hahahah
 
Usually the seatbelt will do it just after you rotate, but if you had a crosswind or depending on exactly where it was caught in the door I could see make the noise during taxiing and not in flight.

Brian
 
In retrospect, I probably should not have even taken off without at least having an instructor hop in with me and hear it for themself, but thankfully nothing bad resulted.

Does this sound remotely familiar to anyone?

I have no idea what the noise/ vibration could have been, but I'm happy to read your last paragraph ...."In retrospect I should probably not have taken off" ....

Hopefully next time you are not sure of something you will just taxi back and seek more help, it's good decision making even if it proves that you was over thinking it. Live to fly another day sir
 
I've heard some "interesting" prop noises in a stiff crosswind, on the ground. They are totally gone in the air. A way to test for this is to do a donut.

If you really want your airplane to make strange noises, fly it over water (or hostile terrain) outside of gliding distance to safety.
 
I've heard some "interesting" prop noises in a stiff crosswind, on the ground. They are totally gone in the air. A way to test for this is to do a donut.

Common noise in a crosswind, alright.
 
Possibly the air vents transmitting prop noise/buffeting? Try closing the air vents next time and see if that solves anything.
 
Possibly the air vents transmitting prop noise/buffeting? Try closing the air vents next time and see if that solves anything.

Oh yeah I forgot about that noise in the 172. I bet that is it. Good call! But the vibration he speaks of??
 
Were windows open? As mentioned above, certain combinations of propwash and crosswind can mess with airflow around the cabin. Rapidly pulsing changes in pressure can be heard/felt and simulate a loud noise or vibration.
 
The windows were closed. I can see there are lots of possibilities. I will definitely make sure to check some of these prior next time!
 
That was my first suspicion but then he said that the plane had just flown and landed about 10 minutes earlier.
 
I can make this exact noise in my car by rolling down the rear windows only...
 
I had pretty much the same thing, after my annual where they had replaced both brake discs replace and it made this noise during very slow taxiing, I called it more like growling noise. My AP tightened up the wheel bearing and it went away, but it came back about a month later.
Another pilot on the field had the same thing and during the annual they took the left side landing gear strut apart, and found the bushing at the top of the strut to be a little oval, it was replaced and the sound went away. (bushing cost about $500.00)
 
A growling noise while taxiing sounds like a bad wheel bearing, especially since adjustment hid it. That noise gets made when a ball bearing isn't round anymore, and slides rather than rotates. Eventually, the wheel may seize or fall off with no further warning, so that noise should be taken rather seriously. I've grounded aircraft for that noise.

This is a VERY different noise from what the OP reports.
 
Being a new pilot myself, one thing I have already learned is that if it doesn't feel right don't take off. It's better to be wrong on the ground than in the air.
 
I can make this exact noise in my car by rolling down the rear windows only...
My wife's CRV does this it is most annoying and you would think there is something major wrong with the car. Crack the moon roof or open the front window and it stops. :confused:
 
I can make this exact noise in my car by rolling down the rear windows only...

The sunroof in my car automatically stops about 7/8 of the way open. The reason? if you open it all the way this happens.

I got all sorts of weirded out the first time I was doing formation and we all taxi'd out together, very close together. While stopped nose to tail i started getting really odd prop noise/vibrations. Took me a minute to figure out it was from the prop wash of the planes in front of me.
 
Pretty common to hear a noise like that, depending on the sound sometimes its the air vents, other times its the wind hitting the prop funny.
 
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