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Hey guys, starting multi training on Monday ! (Seneca)
I'm having trouble finding an online training course. I see the King Air course at a whopping $250. Then I see a Gleim course at $29... :dunno:
I have 160 hrs of single engine time.
Anybody have any experience with the two?
Anybody have a suggestion?
$250 seems over the top by at least $100.
(yes, I know i have an instructor for the ground, but I like the online training as a supplement. Plus it cuts the CFI cost down quite a bit)

Thanks.
 
Congrats on starting your multi training...
Imo, there is just not enough to the course that would justify auxiliary training media. IF you have a quality MEI that should be all that's needed.
I would save my money.
 
Well, there's a chapter in the Airplane Flying Handbook on multiengine airplanes.
 
Why do you want a King Air course for a Seneca?
 
The ground training for multi,given by your instructor should be more than sufficient. It's more about the ride.also the systems are model specific.
 
You don't really need whole bunch of information. Read the FAA material from their website. All their publications are free downloads. Understand how the propellor works.
 
Power up
Clean up
Identify
Verify
Rectify
Feather

COMBATS

PAST

That's it in a nut shell,, know what this means,,, be able to answer anything about this... you will do fine..
 
As they said, read Chapter 12 in the AFH on ME flying. That covers all the background knowledge you'll need before starting the regular ME training course. If you don't have a copy of the book (which is downloadable in ForeFlight), you can find the Chapter 10-12 portion here.
 
problematique said:
That

For some reason I threw the work"air" after"king" out of habit.

Ok so it sounds like it's not so heavy that I need extra studying.
Ok, thanks.
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No, it's just that there's enough information out there that you don't need to buy a course.

Figure out what plane you will be doing your training in, and then get a hold of the POH (or equivalent). Some multi-engine training programs include a study guide that they send to you prior to training. Study that cover to cover and your training will go much better.

Are you doing an accelerated course, or training through your local flight school?
 
Training through local CFI.
I've seen PAST. I've also heard CAMELCROFT. Haven't looked that one up yet.
 
As other have said, not a lot of material. My oral was mostly systems stuff and commercial type pilot decision making. Have fun flying the Seneca! Thats what I did my multi in. I liked it.
 
Enjoy. The multi is the most fun rating. I did mine in a Seneca II which was turbo. It was a pretty neat airplane.
 
Kritchlow said:
Congrats on starting your multi training...
Imo, there is just not enough to the course that would justify auxiliary training media. IF you have a quality MEI that should be all that's needed.
I would save my money.
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Agree, just isn't that much to it to warrent a book. Just a little ground time with your CFI and getting a feel for it.

Download the POH and learn the systems and speeds, get your procedures down pat.

There is a reason it's just a weekend course.
 
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I believe this is indeed a Seneca II :D
Are the requirements 10 hours??
 
problematique said:
I believe this is indeed a Seneca II :D
Are the requirements 10 hours??
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That's not an FAA requirement if you already hold another class rating in the Airplane category -- see 14 CFR 61.63(c)(3). Whether the school requires it for insurance or other reasons is up to the school.
 
I agree that you will get most of the training from your instructor. It was the most fun flying I have done yet.

If you want something to read, I highly recommend Bob Gardner's book "The Complete Multi Engine Pilot" $23.00 at Sporty's.
 
problematique said:
I believe this is indeed a Seneca II :D
Are the requirements 10 hours??
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Well that's good, the Seneca 1 I flew, flew like a tank, it didn't want to go anywhere in a hurry. In fact, I think it was more sluggish than an DC9.
 
Im starting multi training in a couple weeks. And I will finish up a day later. But first I have a pt. 135 checkride in the C-T207 tomorrow to look forward to.
 
NJP_MAN said:
Im starting multi training in a couple weeks. And I will finish up a day later. But first I have a pt. 135 checkride in the C-T207 tomorrow to look forward to.
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Two days? You're telling me this can be done that quickly?
I'm hearing a average of 10 hrs. I'm imagining 3-4 sessions...
 
problematique said:
Two days? You're telling me this can be done that quickly?
I'm hearing a average of 10 hrs. I'm imagining 3-4 sessions...
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That's 2 days. 2 training flights and ground day one, third training flight day two the your checkrid in the afternoon.
 
problematique said:
Two days? You're telling me this can be done that quickly?
I'm hearing a average of 10 hrs. I'm imagining 3-4 sessions...
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Edit ^ yeah what Henning said.


I have already 7 multi hrs and a few 135 checkrides to my credit too. I feel confident that day 1 will be ground, intro to the plane. Single engine ops, Maneuvers and landings. Day 2 morning will be instrument approaches more single engine and a landing or two. Day 2 afternoon checkride.

Edit #2. It says you're also in phoenix. You should come with. I going to see everyone's good friend Tom Brady!
 
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problematique said:
Two days? You're telling me this can be done that quickly?
I'm hearing a average of 10 hrs. I'm imagining 3-4 sessions...
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There are a lot of weekend Multi accelerated courses out there.
 
I did my commercial multi (with holding only a private SE).

Based on the commercial requirements, I had to log 25 hours, so it took me a lot longer than a weekend.
 
problematique said:
:yesnod:

how'd ya know?



nevermind...process of elimination.
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I actually did mine there. The only Senecas for rent in the valley are there and one at FFZ, I believe.

One thing to watch out for - one of them is in mph, and one is in knots.

Who are you getting instruction from?


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Precisely.
Yeah, they told me about the mph / kts deal. I'll be training with Tyler.
I'm pretty excited. Actually about as much as flying for the first time.
 
I really wish I could find someone out here that would rent out their Cessna 210 to be honest. I do a lot of Laughlin and Vegas runs and that darn twin is a gas guzzler! But that's the only thing I can get my hands on that seats 6.
 
How many people are you hauling? Any of them kids?
 
Phoenix flyers has a Comanche in the fleet. I routinely take 5+lightly packed bags in that. One person is a child and the rest are lightweights.

The lack of six-seat rentals is annoying, yes.
 
Hmm. I wouldn't mind looking into that if at all possible. What's the hourly cost? What's the cruise speed?
 
I think it's around $140 per tach hour now. They also have 2 archers and a 182. Everything has either a 430 or 530. It's a "non-profit" member-owned club, so it's a great deal. Also, you're "named insured" so no need for renters insurance (and no sales tax to pay, either)

I and two other former members bought our own Comanche and left the club, but if I were "planeless" again, I would re-join in a heartbeat.
 
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