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...So I've got the opportunity to purchase a low-mileage 1993 Dutchmen Class C motorhome. (The kind that is built on a Ford van chassis.) The price is right.

I love camping, but I hate the hassle. As I get older, the idea of pulling into a site, putting the vehicle in park, and cracking a beer is becoming more appealing. I also think that next summer is probably our last chance to take the kids on that "2-weeks-out-West" driving vacation that we've talked about for decades.

I've camped my whole life, but know NOTHING about motorhomes. What do I need to know?

Thanks!
 
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I love camping, but I hate the hassle. As I get older, the idea of pulling into a site, putting the vehicle in park, and cracking a beer is becoming more appealing. I also think that next summer is probably our last chance to take the kids on that "2-weeks-out-West" driving vacation that we've talked about for decades.

When I was a kid, we had an older used one. I don't think my parents ever regretted getting it.

I've camped my whole life, but know NOTHING about motorhomes. What do I need to know?

Thanks!

Obviously, I was a kid, so I don't remember much. But, I do remember two significant problems. First, the manifolds would crack - I remember because I got the privilege of holding the work light while my dad would replace the manifolds; after having the replacements crack (and thus having to replace them again, a real ***** of a job), he put glass packs on, and never had a problem again.

Second, there were problems with the LP gas. I don't remember what they were with any specificity, unfortunately.

There were some other minor problems, but it's about like any car and house - take care of it, and it will take care of you.

Overall, though, the problems weren't nearly enough to outweigh having the thing.

But, here's something to consider. I don't know how much the things run these days, but given the fluctuations in gas prices (not to mention the economy), you're not necessarily looking at something that you'll be able to sell quickly (or at all) if you ever want to. With that in mind, depending on how much you plan on using the thing, you might want to take a look at the RV rental possibilities. No idea how much that costs, either, but it could be worth considering if you don't want to have to worry about maintenance, storage, etc.
 
I love my class A. Fully stocked & ready to go, just pick a destination and go. Here in western WA. I do not need to drive more than a couple of hours tto find good camping. Forest or Ocean. And when you wake up at night to hear the rain on the roof, you will be SO glad you have a roof not a tent. DaveR P.S. they are good for day trips too!
 
That era Ford truck/van chassis did tend to have a really restrictive exhaust that seemed to crack. I know of several people who had problems with that. If it happens, I'd just pull the entire exhaust (which is probably rusted out anyway) and replace it with something from Summit Racing in a larger diameter and lower restriction.

The nice thing is that most motorhomes tend to be low mileage and taken decent care of since they're taken on long trips. If you like it and it's a good price, I'd say go for it and have fun!

That said for me, I can throw tents in the Aztec just fine. Beer fits, too. :)
 
Actually, I can see where a camper or RV would be a good thing. You wake up in the rain in a tent, and you may be dry, but you have few options. At least you have a bit of space in the camper to fix up breakfast or something.
 
I can just fire up the Janitrol heater and put a frying pan over the floor vent. Works great. ;)
 
I imagine it's something like a land-bound boat with respect to some systems. Various plumbing needs to be winterized with the correct (edible) antifreeze if you aren't using it. I don't know if the engine needs pickling when not in use...
 
Like everything else in life, the camping choice is a trade-off. If you drive a motor-home, it's your sole method of getting around if you don't pull a car or bike. Once you're in the campground and set up, you gots no wheels for other stuff. Driving big vehicles around for tourist things isn't much fun anyway, and many MH's (based on our camping trip in July and August, I'd say most but no stats to prove) tow a car or small SUV.

If you therefore conclude that you will need something to sleep in and something to drive around while you're on the trip, it's clear you need two vehicles. I've tried all of the possibilities, and decided to use my daily driver (Suburban) as the tow vehicle and pull the sleeper. We have a Trail Manor folding trailer that stores in the carport, pulls easily at freeway speeds and comfortably sleeps us and an occasional grandkid or two.

In talking to people in campgrounds and gas stations, my impression is that lots of big-rig owners wish they had less money invested and more economical units. As for me, I've seen all I need to see with the old MH's and wouldn't want the hassle. They have the same basic systems as boats, much of it made by the same companies, so the same stuff breaks regularly. Your advantage with a MH is that you can at least (hopefully) drive them to the repair shop rather than calling a mechanic to your slip. YMMV
 
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For me, I'd rather have a pop up camper of some sort that is towed behind a vehicle, or at least a camper that is capable of carrying two motorcycles.
 
Actually, I can see where a camper or RV would be a good thing. You wake up in the rain in a tent, and you may be dry, but you have few options. At least you have a bit of space in the camper to fix up breakfast or something.

The way we used it was for family trips (that is, with mom). Camping (of which there was a lot) was for dad and the boys. Haha.

It was, perhaps surprisingly, primarily purchased as a cost-saver. For instance, say you take a week-long trip to Disney World. You're looking at pretty expensive hotel rooms if you stay at Disney proper. Staying at Disney's campground, you're looking at far cheaper rates. Additionally, you've got the option of cooking for yourself (you can in some hotels, of course, but not necessarily as easily) more often. On top of that, if the kids are being brats, you can leave when you want without worrying about plane tix!

Anyway, the money you save from not having to pay for the hotel room adds up pretty quickly.

And, you meet some nice people in RV campgrounds. Granted, there are certainly plenty of oddballs, but definitely some nice people.

On a related note, when I was driving down to AZ last week, I took a route I don't normally go, and drove by an "adult RV park" near Pagosa Springs. For the remaining 8 hours of the trip, I found myself wondering, "WTF?"
 
That comparison ignores the cost of the unit, plus the fuel and consumables during its use, plus the costs of upkeep and storage. It's no cheaper to go in the camper, some people just like them better.

The way we used it was for family trips (that is, with mom). Camping (of which there was a lot) was for dad and the boys. Haha.

It was, perhaps surprisingly, primarily purchased as a cost-saver. For instance, say you take a week-long trip to Disney World. You're looking at pretty expensive hotel rooms if you stay at Disney proper. Staying at Disney's campground, you're looking at far cheaper rates. Additionally, you've got the option of cooking for yourself (you can in some hotels, of course, but not necessarily as easily) more often. On top of that, if the kids are being brats, you can leave when you want without worrying about plane tix!

Anyway, the money you save from not having to pay for the hotel room adds up pretty quickly.

And, you meet some nice people in RV campgrounds. Granted, there are certainly plenty of oddballs, but definitely some nice people.

On a related note, when I was driving down to AZ last week, I took a route I don't normally go, and drove by an "adult RV park" near Pagosa Springs. For the remaining 8 hours of the trip, I found myself wondering, "WTF?"
 
It was, perhaps surprisingly, primarily purchased as a cost-saver.
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Anyway, the money you save from not having to pay for the hotel room adds up pretty quickly.

You know, I've wondered something of the economics of that. It probably works if you use it a lot and go to the really high dollar places (I know that Disney World is really expensive), but when you factor in depreciation and cost of ownership, I have a hard time believing that it really ends up saving money. Then again, I have precisely zero desire to go spend a week at Disney World or any other place that's similarly overpriced. I'd then spend the same amount of money on my plane flying someplace that's cheaper and more interesting. :)

Not questioning someone's decision on this, it's just something that I'd like to see an economic analysis of sometime to see if it actually saves money or just feels like it does.

On a related note, when I was driving down to AZ last week, I took a route I don't normally go, and drove by an "adult RV park" near Pagosa Springs. For the remaining 8 hours of the trip, I found myself wondering, "WTF?"

:rofl::rofl::rofl:

Now you've got me wondering the same thing!
 
That comparison ignores the cost of the unit, plus the fuel and consumables during its use, plus the costs of upkeep and storage. It's no cheaper to go in the camper, some people just like them better.

Oh, for sure - I should have been clearer. It was cheaper for us. Certainly won't be for everyone, depending on use - especially if you don't have the knowledge/time/patience to do your own work.

That latter is especially important, as I found out recently. I was feeling lazy, so I asked a shop how much they'd charge to do the brakes and drive-shaft u-joints on a jeep. They wanted close to $600 - I can, quite literally, do that myself on a Saturday for about $150 (and that's using premium parts), a few skinned knuckles, and teaching the dog an unacceptable variety (and combinations) of foul language. I knew there was markup, but I had no idea it was anything like that.

If we'd had to pay for all the work done on that damned motorhome, then it probably would have been far more expensive.
 
If we'd had to pay for all the work done on that damned motorhome, then it probably would have been far more expensive.

Gets even crazier with planes, hence why I try to do as much owner-allowed and assisted maintenance as possible. Plus I generally find them easier to work on than my cars, even though they have stuff placed in more idiotic locations a lot of the time.
 
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Not questioning someone's decision on this, it's just something that I'd like to see an economic analysis of sometime to see if it actually saves money or just feels like it does.

For most people, it probably doesn't - especially buying an MH that's brand new. It's about like owning a boat (or an airplane)...you do it for the enjoyment of it, and you know you're going to be throwing hundred dollar bills into a hole...and you, of course, justify it to yourself by saying, "it will be so useful." For a boat - just think of all the money we can save by eating fish! For a plane - just think of all the money we can save by flying in a straight line! For an RV - just think of all the money we can save on hotel rooms!


:rofl::rofl::rofl:

Now you've got me wondering the same thing!

I'd offer to google it on my work computer, but...no. :)
 
For most people, it probably doesn't - especially buying an MH that's brand new. It's about like owning a boat (or an airplane)...you do it for the enjoyment of it, and you know you're going to be throwing hundred dollar bills into a hole...and you, of course, justify it to yourself by saying, "it will be so useful." For a boat - just think of all the money we can save by eating fish! For a plane - just think of all the money we can save by flying in a straight line! For an RV - just think of all the money we can save on hotel rooms!

Oh, I gave up on trying to justify it for any reason other than I like it and it saves me time. My time isn't worth enough to justify the cost, and I know it. It does allow me to do things that I otherwise couldn't do, and that is worth it to me to spend the money. :)

That's why I said I wasn't questioning the decision. I'm fully aware that I'm guilty of spending money on something that primarily exists to cause me to spend more money.

I'd offer to google it on my work computer, but...no. :)

Same here. Maybe when I get home and don't have the IT department looking over my shoulder. :)
 
many MH's (based on our camping trip in July and August, I'd say most but no stats to prove) tow a car or small SUV.

Just don't do like my parents did after they bought their Class A. They hooked up the Explorer to the back. Drove a few miles and my dad mentioned that the handling didn't feel right, my stepmother said that since they just spent 60K on it they should turn around and get it looked at. By the time she finished her thought my dad had glanced down at the rear view camera. My dad didn't double check before they left; my stepmother left it in first. But hey, they got a new Escape to go with the new motorhome! :rofl:
 
We knew we wanted to spend part of July and most of August somewhere else (like we always do) but this year was a little less hectic (nothing happening in the aviation biz) so I had more time to plot and scheme.

I laid out the trip (basically a big cirle through CO and norther NM) several ways and swagged the costs for the three obvious choices. Fly to Denver or COS and rent a car for the loop, drive the car and stay in motels, or drive the 'burb and pull the trailer. There was no significant difference among them, just a different way of going to the same places. We like campgrounds and enjoy the relative freedom of being whereever we want to be without a schedule, so that method won out this year. YMMV
 
Then again, I have precisely zero desire to go spend a week at Disney World or any other place that's similarly overpriced.

Oh Ted.

You'll learn. Someday, you'll learn.

The mouse will assimilate you into the collective. You are powerless to resist.
 
You've lead a sheltered life.

:rofl::rofl::rofl::rofl:

Ladies and gentlemen, let's hear it for Tom. He'll be here all week!!! Don't forget to tip your waitress!



(well played, sir, well played)
 
If you don't buy it, let me know, my in-laws are looking for one.

go to rvsearch.com.

the camper market is on its butt. about 40 cents on the dollar for 2 year ago prices.

we just bought a 2005 Monaco Knight which wholesale at $81k, for $40K

owners are getting desperate to get away from the payments.

I done a lot of home work on the RV market and now is the time to buy if you are looking.
 
OBTW I have a very nice 25', 2007 Bigfoot travel trailer for sale. it has every option the factory had for the year, plus we put in dual batteries, and load range "E" tires on it. We will deliver any where in the US for $29,950

Sold new in 2007 for 37k, and market is 27K retale, plus adds for low miles and upgrades. and delivery.

make me an offer that I can't refuse.
 

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That comparison ignores the cost of the unit, plus the fuel and consumables during its use, plus the costs of upkeep and storage. It's no cheaper to go in the camper, some people just like them better.

As in all equipment, the biger better it is the more the cost of ownership and use, but you are more comfortable. Is it worth it? that's a personal choice.

I don't like packing up a wet tent any more. I sooner turn on the wipers and drive away.

we have done the tents way back when they were made of canvas, umpteen of them
the truck camper 2 each
the travel trailer 2 each
the M/H 27' class C 1 each and now the 40' diesel pusher.

Yes I know enough not to put it on cruise control, and go back for dinner.
 
Actually, I can see where a camper or RV would be a good thing. You wake up in the rain in a tent, and you may be dry, but you have few options. At least you have a bit of space in the camper to fix up breakfast or something.

Just need the right kind of tent. Mine has been well scotch guarded and spent 5 days of continous rain keeping us dry. Beds in one side of the tent. Picnic table and coleman stove on the other side for cooking and playing games. I can't say 5 days in the tent was my 1st choice but it wasn't much worse than being in an RV. Of course after 5 days in the rain we gave up and decided to leave. 10 miles from camp the road was pure dust, it hadn't been raining there.

That said I currently have a tent trailer and am looking for a nice (standard) camp trailer with more storage room. The biggest advantage these have over the tent is they are warmer in cold weather and you can pretty much leave them packed ready to go so the packing and unpacking both at home and at the camp site is a lot less effort.

Brian
 
That said I currently have a tent trailer and am looking for a nice (standard) camp trailer with more storage room. The biggest advantage these have over the tent is they are warmer in cold weather and you can pretty much leave them packed ready to go so the packing and unpacking both at home and at the camp site is a lot less effort.

Brian

My Bigfoot has the cold weathe kit installed, heated tanks and thermol windows, plus it makes an excelient extra bedroom.
 
Oh Ted.

You'll learn. Someday, you'll learn.

The mouse will assimilate you into the collective. You are powerless to resist.

My grandmother took me to Disney World once (when I was 3) and my mom took me to Euro Disney once (when I was 8, right after it opened). I don't remember anything about the time when I was 3. I had minimal in the way of standard overpriced kids toys, I had a used Nintendo for about 3 months (that I was allowed to play for 30 minutes per day after I had done my homework, and only had it because a friend gave it to me) and then when I was in high school bought a used PlayStation 1 that I didn't use very much.

I don't see why parents seem to think that all this overpriced stuff is mandatory for kids these days. My mom raised me to use money wisely. We spent money on things worth spending money on, and if it wasn't a good use of money, we didn't spend money on it. Sure, we still took vacations, but there are much more interesting vacations that you can spend significantly less money on than Disney World. We generally went to the Caribbean once a year for a week. Sounds a whole lot more expensive than it is if you shop properly.

If my future wife (should I get married) wants to any raise kids we may have with overpriced stuff, then I will have made a mistake in choice of wife. That's an important topic of conversation with any woman I'm interested in marrying, unless we just agree that we don't want kids, and even then probably a conversation worth having. Despite the fact that they've figured out what causes pregnancy these days, it seems people keep on having kids they didn't plan on. Wonder why... ;)
 
It's not about the money -- it's about the joy the kids get.

I was anti-Disney too. My kids just love it so much. I really enjoy their enjoyment.

Important thing to remember is this -- it's your money, until you spend it. Just because a kid asks for something doesn't mean you have to get it for them. I am sickened by some of the sights I see - kids loaded down with overpriced Disney crap and wearing those $$$ princess costumes. My kids know not to ask. The park is the reward.

My wife and I love it because, as MBAs, we are so totally impressed by the operation. Everything is seamless, everything works 100% or is fixed, immediately. They know customer service like no other company on the planet.
 
My kids (now almost 33 and 29) love Disneyland, Disneyworld, etc. They've been to both a number of times, plus what is now Disneyland Paris when it was EuroDisney, its first summer in operation (1992). My wife and I enjoy it, too. Cheap? No. Enjoyable? You bet. And someday we hope to take grandchildren, too.

I've camped with everything from a tent I packed in to a Class A motorhome (well used when we bought it). Haven't camped in a long time, but I think my wife is getting the itch to get a motorhome and see more of the country again. We'll see... Our tent trailer got the most use over the years. Pulled it initially with a 1974 Subaru with a 1.4 liter engine. Obviously not a heavy trailer. Maxed out at under 1000 pounds.

Have fun.
 
We tried a used class C a few years ago. Despite a thorough look-see by a trusted mechanic, it broke down on first long trip away from home. We learned the hard way that you can't just call any tow truck or mechanic for something that size. We found ourselves stranded in the middle of nowhere on a Sunday afternoon and after calling every tow company in the vicinity to no avail, I managed to get it started and limp home the 100 miles.

Wife was not happy... total ownership was <3 months. We hadn't sold the pop-up when we bought the Class C and, in fact, we still have the pop-up. It's no RV but it's cheap and much more comfortable that a tent.

Jim

PS- We also had problems with the manifold. Also a leaking roof. Look closely for water damage before you buy.
 
Uh, squeeze me? This is POA. Go to www.rvforum.net for your research.

Seriously, I did, and the folks there treated this noob quite nicely.

'Two weeks out west' in our house was a 'summer on the road' proposistion. Decided a test drive was in order, found a great deal rental on a CruiseAmerica 'you buy the gas to reposition our machine' situation the fall prior. Did Zion and the Grand Canyon. Figured out that my daughter just did not have the inner ear tolerance for long hours in the back of even a large comfy vehicle. So we had a great adventure, figured we could do the same again someday, and found other things to do that particular summer.
 
I've spent a bit of time around several Class A motorhomes... but have not owned one myself. Therefore, a few thoughts from a bystander that may or may not apply to a Class C.

1. Batteries. Typically there are both engine battery(s), and coach battery(s). Make sure they have been replaced relatively recently, or at least that the coach batteries have been serviced. RV's are often plugged in and overcharged, which burns off the water/electrolyte from the coach batteries (typically the engine battery is sealed).

2. If the RV has an inverter that uses the coach batteries to operate 120VAC appliances while the generator is off... it is a good idea to apply a reasonable load (TV and a light bulb or two) and make sure the batteries/inverter can keep up. If it cannot, that's a great sign the batteries are toast.

3. Generators often do not get used for weeks/months at a time. As a result, they often do not start easily, nor run well. Make sure this one runs well. Generators in RVs are often difficult to access, which makes maintenance expensive.

4. Electric plug in cables. Many RV campsites offer the ability to plug into electric service. There are several different cable sizes and connector types for 50, 30, or 15 Amp service. Ideally, it would be wired and have connectors to support all of these... having said that... 50A service is likely to be overkill in all but the largest RVs. 15A service can be underwhelming, especially if the coach A/Cs are being run in the summer.

4. Water level gauges. Fresh, Grey, Black. Much like the fuel tanks in planes, these things are notoriously inaccurate. It's especially important that the grey/black water tank levels are reasonable accurate. You do not want to overflow them.

5. Engine temp. The larger RVs are notorious for being underpowered, and therefore running hot.

6. If the RV has an HVAC system, run it. Make sure the heat and A/C work. Of course, you will want these systems while camping. As well, many RVs are big enough that (while enroute) the dash heat and A/C cannot 'keep up' with the entire volume and hence need an assist from the cabin HVAC.

7. Plumbing. Make sure the fresh water tank is full. Turn on the water pump (to pressurize the system) and make sure there are not any leaks. Leaks are common because many RVs in the North do not get winterized in time... and the first deep freeze bursts pipes.

8. Documentation. Make sure the owner can provide you manuals for the RV and all the key subsystems. At some point in the future - you'll need them to troubleshoot a problem. You also will need to know who locally and on the road can service the main items (engine, generator, electrical system, fridge).

9. (Edit). Leaky roof. How can I forget this. Almost every older used RV has leak problems. They can be a major pain to fix. But they do need to be fixed, or the roofliner, walls, and floors can get ruined.

Good luck !



...So I've got the opportunity to purchase a low-mileage 1993 Dutchmen Class C motorhome. (The kind that is built on a Ford van chassis.) The price is right.

I love camping, but I hate the hassle. As I get older, the idea of pulling into a site, putting the vehicle in park, and cracking a beer is becoming more appealing. I also think that next summer is probably our last chance to take the kids on that "2-weeks-out-West" driving vacation that we've talked about for decades.

I've camped my whole life, but know NOTHING about motorhomes. What do I need to know?

Thanks!
 
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Never got wet in any of my tents, ever.

I've got a hand-made Moss 4-season tent (that I paid $400+ back in the 1980s) that is as waterproof today as the day I bought it -- proving that something made out of cloth (well, okay, nylon) really CAN last forever. We've used the hell out of that tent, and it's never, ever leaked a drop.

Can't say that for my 8-man "Oshkosh" tent, but that's a $130 tent I bought (after my "good" tent got wrapped around my wing during a typical Oshkosh thunderstorm, back in '05) at Target. It was the last tent on the shelf, and I had two kids back at the site with no where to sleep that night...

But the idea of pulling into a site and cracking a beer is sounding pretty good. A queen-sized bed sounds okay, too! :smile:
 
For me, I'd rather have a pop up camper of some sort that is towed behind a vehicle, or at least a camper that is capable of carrying two motorcycles.

We had a pop-up when the kids were little, in the early 90s. It was a lot of fun, but a total PIA to camp in. If the thing wasn't perfectly level, the door wouldn't open, or close. Cranking it up was always fun, especially in the rain. And the furnace would keep you warm until it shut off. Then, the canvas sides (which have the "R" value of kleenex) would let all of your heat instantly dissipate, so you'd spend the night either sweltering or freezing.

It was better then tenting it, with little kids, but not what I'm looking for now.
 
I sit and watch the big rigs pretty carefully during their set-up/take-down routines, if for no other reason than to see if I'm missing anything (or think there's any excuse for getting one.) Don't kid yourself that popping the lid is the first thing you will be doing. Their routine isn't much different from mine (timewise) simply because they all take some time and effort. They obviously have better (quieter) HVAC and bigger bathrooms, and some other creature comforts that I would probably enjoy from time to time. OTOH, I've got A/C, good insulation, hot water, a furnace and a king size bed. To each his own.

PS: I would like to have self-leveling corner jacks, and will if they ever become available.

I've got a hand-made Moss 4-season tent (that I paid $400+ back in the 1980s) that is as waterproof today as the day I bought it -- proving that something made out of cloth (well, okay, nylon) really CAN last forever. We've used the hell out of that tent, and it's never, ever leaked a drop.

Can't say that for my 8-man "Oshkosh" tent, but that's a $130 tent I bought (after my "good" tent got wrapped around my wing during a typical Oshkosh thunderstorm, back in '05) at Target. It was the last tent on the shelf, and I had two kids back at the site with no where to sleep that night...

But the idea of pulling into a site and cracking a beer is sounding pretty good. A queen-sized bed sounds okay, too! :smile:
 
1. Batteries. Typically there are both engine battery(s), and coach battery(s). Make sure they have been replaced relatively recently,

IMHO, don't worry too much about the battery condition during the purchase. The reasoning is that you want good batteries when camping and the only way to insure the batteries are good and dependable is to replace them with new ones. (I knocked the price of my motorhome down $500 right off since the older batteries were likely weak and I'd be replacing them myself soon. The old ones, including the supposedly newer battery didn't last 3 months. $200ish later I had three new batteries onboard)

or at least that the coach batteries have been serviced. RV's are often plugged in and overcharged, which burns off the water/electrolyte from the coach batteries (typically the engine battery is sealed).

Engine batteries can be sealed or non sealed. Look and see what you have onboard.

Overcharge burns off the water, not the acid. That's why you add water to a low battery, not acid. Once the level drops below the top of the plates, it starts cutting into the life and charge condition of the battery.

As for having batteries serviced: On non-sealed batteries, learn to pull the caps off the battery and fill them yourself unless you want to fork out a fortune for new batteries or five fortunes to have someone else add a little water from time to time. Distilled water only. It's a dirt simple thing to do and the RV shops want $150+/hr labor to do it and they'll likely hit you up with 2 hours of labor to do a 3 minute job with a cup of water that is hopefully distilled.

3. Generators often do not get used for weeks/months at a time. As a result, they often do not start easily, nor run well. Make sure this one runs well. Generators in RVs are often difficult to access, which makes maintenance expensive.

A running genset engine just means the engine works, nothing else. Take a voltmeter with you and check the output voltage. If your voltmeter does frequency, check the frequency as well. Do this while the generator is under a load load such as running the air conditioner and microwave. It should stay close to 60hz and voltage should be stable at 120VAC plus/minus 10%. If the genset is not under load, you can't tell what the genset is actually putting out reliably.

4. Electric plug in cables. Many RV campsites offer the ability to plug into electric service. There are several different cable sizes and connector types for 50, 30, or 15 Amp service. Ideally, it would be wired and have connectors to support all of these... having said that... 50A service is likely to be overkill in all but the largest RVs. 15A service can be underwhelming, especially if the coach A/Cs are being run in the summer.

Campgrounds have 50/30/15 and sometimes 20A services. (20A is a standard 15A 3 prong plug you find on the end of a generic extension cord) 15A is available anywhere electric is available. Most have 30A nowadays. More and more have 50A since that's becoming common with the huge monster motorcoaches. Every campground I've been to with power has 15A. If there is 30A, there is also 15A connection at the site. If there's a 50A, it usually has a 30A and 15A connector as well. That's not always the case however that's how the generic power pedestal is setup.

On a RV or motorhome there will be one cable, not multiple power cables attached to the vehicle. Most Class C's use 30A connectors until you get into the monster C's that use 50A which are all fairly new still. Since you're almost certainly looking at a 30A connector on the one you're looking at, in reality all you need is a short 30A to 15A cable or plug block to take care of any campground power plug problem you'll ever encounter. That plug conversion piece will put you back a whole whopping $2.50 assuming the place you buy it from rips you off. (I would mail you my spare however postage would cost 50 cents less than a new one would) Don't worry about the 30A to 50A connector unless you just want to carry around extra junk you'll never likely use. If you're plugged into 15A, the AC won't run more than about 5-10 minutes before the pedestal breaker pops since AC units typically pull 18-25A.

BTW, 50A on a motorhome is actually two 25A circuits, not 50A. It takes the two phase 240VAC wiring just like for your home clothes dryer then splits off one phase as 120VAC at 25A and the other phase as the same 120VAC at 25A. Onboard, the wiring is setup as two independent circuits that are not directly connected to each other and runs that through the motorhome as needed. If you look with an oscilliscope, those circuits are 180 degrees out of phase.


A few big things:
Check all the onboard systems. Water heater, air conditioner, furnace, water pump, lights, converter, etc. However just because something isn't working properly, don't immediately write the motorhome off. Consider what the problem is and whether it's fixable easily and cheaply or not or if there's a list of other fixes growing. I didn't get fanatical about broken stuff while generally knowing what I was looking at and using common sense while buying. Three batteries, a water heater ignition board, seized water pump, installing a holding tank heater box and a few other minor things saved me over $4000 even after fixing those things for about $500 total over the going price for a similar motorhome at RV shops.

Slides: Slides are the big thing everyone is pushing nowadays in today's bigger is always unconditionally better mindset. They do tend to develop leaks over time which means seal replacement or sometimes major work when the hardware bends..especially if there is a drive screw failure. Also a lot of small campgrounds have sites too small to extend the slides without hitting trees and such. If you're going to be going somewhere other than huge motorcoach resorts all the time, make sure you can use your onboard systems such as the kitchen, bathroom, sleeping areas, etc with the slides pulled in. Keeping the slides in allows you to stealth camp without drawing attention to yourself. In addition to width, length will keep you out of campgrounds sometimes. I've been to several places that if you're over 30 feet, you simply can't fit into the site.

Refrigerator. These are absorption fridges (no compressor) so it takes 4-8 hours to reach running temperature. The cooling fins and ice box cooling surfaces inside will get fairly cool after about 1-2 hours of run time. Verify the fridge works on AC and propane. Also look inside the outer access panel. If you see a yellow stubstance that looks a lot like sulphur in color below the burner box, the fridge is dead and a big fire hazard even if it cools a bit with that yellow stuff there. The only fix is to replace the cooling unit for $1000 or a new fridge for $1500 plus labor if you don't do your own work. (BTDT)

Tires: Age, not wear kills most RV/motorhome tires. Check the tires for dry rot. Forget about tread depth because that's not important at all unless the treads are worn. I've seen many brand new tread depths and severe dry rot that have caused no end of grief. You want to look for any small cracks on the sidewalls AND down between the treads. It's a PITA to check dual rear tires however it's something that must be done. I've seen the results of several campers and motorhomes that had dry rotted tires go KABLOOEY at speed. The damage is pretty substantial in the wheel wells. Also if there happens to be onboard systems wiring down in the wheel well area (and that's very common in designs) all that wiring will be torn out when the tire delaminates. (Six tires will run you at least $1000 on a normal size motorhome and lots more if it's a monster machine)

Check for water damage. Soft walls or floors indicate water damage. Pull a fixture out of the ceiling and walls and stick your finger in there and check for water rot. Under cabinets there is often minor water damage caused by a drain pipe or valve, or water tank hose that came loose in the past that is in reality a non event. Determine the cause and extent of damage.

Awnings are spendy and very useful. Roll it out and check for rips and that the spring rolls them up properly. Tiny holes at the top near the attach point on the motorhome are common after about 10 years. If it's just small holes and no rips, there's plenty of repair tape available to make those holes waterproof again.


Don't be afraid to turn your own wrenches. RV shops can often make aircraft maintenance shops look like third rate amateurs when it comes to cleaning out your bank account. Most onboard hardware can be fixed with a trip to the local hardware store. (1/2 inch schedule 40 PVC is 1/2 inch schedule 40 PVC. The difference is that the hardware store sells it for $3 for 10 feet and the RV shop near here sells it for $11 a foot)


All that said: Just find something in reasonable condition and go have fun camping. Don't overthink it or worry too much. Don't carry a lot of unnecessary junk because you don't need it. Get use to dumping your own poop. Above all else, keep a good attitude and sense of humor. When something doesn't go precisely as planned, it's just part of the adventure.

Peace out. Happy camping.

<--- Fulltimer (Three years so far and going on winter #4 in Colorado)
 
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Never got wet in any of my tents, ever.
OK but you have to get out. My potty is under my roof, are you going to take a dump in your dishpan in the tent? You really like to cook dinner hanging out the fly of your tent during a storm? I tented(never got wet either), backpacked, been there done that. LOVE my Motor home, I just have not figured out how to get an airplane to the campground. but I am working on it. DaveR
 
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