FormerHangie
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I must confess that the discussion here makes me wonder about the wisdom of going up for a practice jump, just to have some experience using a parachute. I had been thinking of that.
There are professionally run drop zones that will take good care of you. The chances of serious injury doing a tandem are pretty low, most likely lower than a local flight in a GA airplane.
I was at a small uncontrolled ocean front airport last summer (not Oceanside) that had a skydive operation there... I remember seeing a 206 by a hanger.. a skydive operations 206... the thing looked *seriously* beat up.. the panel was a miserable joke and this plane was rode hard and put away wet. I thought for sure it was just kept along for spares
Nope.. a couple hours later they towed it to the fuel island, tanked it up, and the thing put in a solid day's work hauling jumpers up. I remember thinking that if I was the pilot I'd want to be wearing a chute too!
I get costs are tight for any GA business... but is there a reason these operations are so haphazard, reading above it sounds like they're walking on thin ice safety and reg wise. Isn't the average cost around $300..? Even 6 novice jumpers (IE, they will be tandem) that is $900 (300X3) for what, a 15 minute flight? The margins can't be THAT thin.. or is this like my SpotMe thing where basically there is no need to keep these planes any safer than they already are.. heck, the people on board have parachutes anyway and you're circling above an airport!
Cool site by the way, I was today's year's old when I learned a ton of cool things up "diver drivers" https://diverdriver.com/cessna-206/
When i did my first jumps it was a long time ago, and at a small site that used Cessna 180s. They weren't very nice looking, but they seemed reliable and airworthy.
Remember, the jump plane just takes off, climbs, does some jump runs, then descends and lands. Any extra weight is a detriment, so the interior is minimal as is the panel.
I'd certainly agree! I actually always wondered about that, why the people who jump out don't immediately get guillotined by the horizontal stab
Gravity and inertia. Look at this clip starting at 4:20, there's a nice slo mo of the exit. Note that they fall almost straight down:
When I did my static line jumps way back when, if you got your arch right you could see your instructor until the static line pulled your 'chute open. He was always almost directly overhead for those couple of seconds, you don't slow that quickly.
Why such a big difference? $30 sounds cheap while $300 is crazy. Is there really a 10 factor cost difference? Are most jumpers novice, or solo?
The place where I did my jump last year charges $180-$200 for tandems, depending on the day of the week, and $130-$150 for a videographer. Jump tickets for licensed divers are $28 for a 14,000 foot ride up. As more than one wag has noted, for experienced jumpers the skydive is free, it's the ride up that you have to pay for. So, it's the people for whom you are paying.
The reason I did that jump last year was that my daughter wanted to do it for her 18th birthday. Naturally I had to go as well. That place was very professional and we had a nice Caravan to take us aloft, and I felt comfortable letting my daughter jump there.
Thanks. Sounds like insured operation and possibly a bigger one are a good idea. I had been thinking to do the accelerated training for a solo jump. Seems like it would be a better simulation of what will happen if I need to jump out of a glider or aerobatic plane someday.
What a skydiver does is fairly different from what you'd be doing if you had to get out of a broken airplane. They do a controlled exit, then ultimately wind up in a stable arch at 120 mph where they pull the 'chute, typically at 5000 feet. They then fly an approach in a square parachute to a flared landing. If you have to get out of a broken airplane, you pull the parachute as soon as you clear the airplane. Odds are your emergency parachute is round and doesn't have much of a forward speed. You'd then make a non-flared landing using a parachute landing fall.
I don't know that you'd have to go through the full course to get what would help you if you had to make an emergency jump. It's very disorienting to go out into the airstream and then float down under canopy, so a couple of tandems would be in order to help you place yourself once you go out of the airplane, and to pick out a landing spot from the air. The landing under a square 'chute is different than it is under a round one, so if you can find a drop zone that still teaches static line, a couple of static line jumps would be in order. They'll also teach you a parachute landing fall, which is an important thing to learn.