Restricted ATP certificate questions

Gucci Pilot said:
Actually that is true. With an R-ATP at a part 121 operator, you can only operate in the capacity of an SIC. Something that only requires a commercial...wouldn't be a 121 operation...which is what he clearly asked about.
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So you saw that as a question only about 121 operations even though the OP didn't even know what Part 121 operations were? OK, but I'll stick with my more complete answer anyway.
 
Ron Levy said:
So you saw that as a question only about 121 operations even though the OP didn't even know what Part 121 operations were? OK, but I'll stick with my more complete answer anyway.
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NJP_MAN said:
What if you went to an approved aviation program at a college is there a r-FE that requires 60-75% of the sim course ?
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No, there is not. But certain collegiate degrees reduce the number of years of maintenance experience needed.
(b) An applicant for a flight engineer certificate with a class rating must present, for the class rating sought, satisfactory evidence of one of the following:
(1) At least 3 years of diversified practical experience in aircraft and aircraft engine maintenance (of which at least 1 year was in maintaining multiengine aircraft with engines rated at least 800 horsepower each, or the equivalent in turbine engine powered aircraft), and at least 5 hours of flight training in the duties of a flight engineer.
(2) Graduation from at least a 2-year specialized aeronautical training course in maintaining aircraft and aircraft engines (of which at least 6 calendar months were in maintaining multiengine aircraft with engines rated at least 800 horsepower each or the equivalent in turbine engine powered aircraft), and at least 5 hours of flight training in the duties of a flight engineer.
(3) A degree in aeronautical, electrical, or mechanical engineering from a recognized college, university, or engineering school; at least 6 calendar months of practical experience in maintaining multiengine aircraft with engines rated at least 800 horsepower each, or the equivalent in turbine engine powered aircraft; and at least 5 hours of flight training in the duties of a flight engineer.
(4) At least a commercial pilot certificate with an instrument rating and at least 5 hours of flight training in the duties of a flight engineer.
(5) At least 200 hours of flight time in a transport category airplane (or in a military airplane with at least two engines and at least equivalent weight and horsepower) as pilot in command or second in command performing the functions of a pilot in command under the supervision of a pilot in command.
(6) At least 100 hours of flight time as a flight engineer.
(7) Within the 90-day period before he applies, successful completion of an approved flight engineer ground and flight course of instruction as provided in appendix C of this part.
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Of course, as noted in item (4), a CP ticket with instrument rating waives all the maintenance experience requirements, too.
 
Ron Levy said:
So you saw that as a question only about 121 operations even though the OP didn't even know what Part 121 operations were? OK, but I'll stick with my more complete answer anyway.
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Considering he stated part 121 in the question, yes; Ok

NJP_MAN said:
What if you went to an approved aviation program at a college is there a r-FE that requires 60-75% of the sim course ? You see what I did there ?
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I know someone that went to Purdue got his FE rating. I think they had a 727 sim and that is probably what he got it in. Whether they still do that up there I have no idea. With an FE rating, that and $5 will get you a coffee at Starbucks.
 
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