Red board dying?

Could it be that there are just less and less pilots and there are more boards... that and you can ***** and moan about Liberals here.

What I find sad is, people are quitting AOPA because of what? They talk about jets too much? Who cares? To date they are the only ones that go up on capital hill and anyone actually listens. Who is to advocate for us? POA? Seriously, the AOPA is the best there is at keeping airports open and costs down as best as possible in this unstoppable slide to oblivion.:(
 
Palmpilot said:
Is there a green board? If so, where?
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It used to be that studentpilot.com was sometimes called the green board. The web page previously had a greenish color, but that's changed. So I don't know if anybody would call it the green board now.

As a student pilot, I found it very useful, btw.
 
I counted them.

In the last 24 hours, there were this many active threads:
60 on POA
43 on AOPA
19 on the Purple Board
8 on studentpilot.com

I have no idea how that compares to the past.

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the same statistic for type clubs:
77 Van's Air force
34 cirrus owners & pilots
27 mooneyspace
13 beechtalk
cessna pilots association N/A - I couldn't log in
piper owner - ditto
 
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NoHeat said:
the same statistic for type clubs:
77 Van's Air force
34 cirrus owners & pilots
27 mooneyspace
13 beechtalk
cessna pilots association N/A - I couldn't log in
piper owner - ditto
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Well, it's understandable that the Vans forum has twice as much activity, they're still trying to get their planes assembled and flying!:D

Us certified folks never have our planes in pieces... much... er, um... ah... it's the government's fault!
 
Palmpilot said:
As I understand it, using a tax exempt organization for political purposes endangers its tax exempt status. If it is proven that one side of the political spectrum was being preferentially targeted for enforcement, that certainly would be improper, but that doesn't translate into "It's not safe to express opinions" as a general statement, IMO.
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At the risk of derailing the thread into SZ, you seem to be following the rear-guard action of MSM that fights every new revelation with the "if" narrative. So, here's a bit of factual info which MSM is trying to whitewash.

First of all, there is no "if". The systematic targeting happened. The victims were selected for audit, and we are not talking about "tax exempt status" only. MSM tries to pretend that it was about that, but actually networked individuals were targeted for audit -- in several cases by two IRS offices at the time. BTW the double-targeting happened in Hawaii, far away from Cincinnatti. This is plain intimidation and persecution of those who were critical of the party in power.

In other cases, IRS leaked tax information to leftist orgs, such as leaking the donor list of National Organization for Marriage so that donors can be targeted by leftist thugs, e.g. their tires slashed, trash bins burned, kids bullied in school. MSM pushes the "tax-exempt status" thing in order to cover up other IRS abuses. But the message that you speak against Democrats and you get IRS on your case is unmistakeable.
 
zaitcev said:
At the risk of derailing the thread into SZ, you seem to be following the rear-guard action of MSM that fights every new revelation with the "if" narrative.
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It may "seem" as if that's what I'm doing, but I'm not. I have learned that when it comes to accusations in the political arena, it's best to treat claims as unproven until I see the proof. Politicians and their supporters don't have a great track record of objectivity.

By the way, if the thread gets moved to the SZ, I'm not that concerned.

So, here's a bit of factual info which MSM is trying to whitewash.

First of all, there is no "if". The systematic targeting happened. The victims were selected for audit, and we are not talking about "tax exempt status" only.
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After I wrote my post, I learned from an MSM article that tax exempt status is not the only issue.

MSM tries to pretend that it was about that, but actually networked individuals were targeted for audit -- in several cases by two IRS offices at the time. BTW the double-targeting happened in Hawaii, far away from Cincinnatti. This is plain intimidation and persecution of those who were critical of the party in power.
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Were conservatives and/or Republicans audited more often than Democrats and/or liberals?

In other cases, IRS leaked tax information to leftist orgs, such as leaking the donor list of National Organization for Marriage so that donors can be targeted by leftist thugs, e.g. their tires slashed, trash bins burned, kids bullied in school. MSM pushes the "tax-exempt status" thing in order to cover up other IRS abuses. But the message that you speak against Democrats and you get IRS on your case is unmistakeable.
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If that happened, it's reprehensible.

I'm not willing to accept allegations as fact when the sources are not cited, because it makes it difficult or impossible to examine the evidence for myself.
 
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Not trying to SZ the thread either but the IRS head announced she's taking the 5th Amendment and not testifying to Congress tonight.

Anyway, as far as aviation boards go, all I really (don't) have time for is PoA. I peruse Purple once in a while, never Red, and Cessna Pilot's Assn if I want to find photos of a particular maintenance item or problem.

The aviation for recreation ecosystem isn't getting bigger unfortunately. Multitudes of reasons.
 
denverpilot said:
Not trying to SZ the thread either but the IRS head announced she's taking the 5th Amendment and not testifying to Congress tonight.
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It seems like that would put her in danger of being dismissed by the President. Alternatively, could she be given immunity in exchange for testifying?

By the way, she's not the head of the IRS, she's the director of the IRS's exempt organizations unit.

Anyway, as far as aviation boards go, all I really (don't) have time for is PoA.
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You don't have time for POA? :confused:
 
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I haven't been on the red board in a couple of years. Yeah, I miss it but just can't get myself to cough up the annual dues just for forum privileges. The last few times the promised me a cap or flight bag they never arrived, and I liked the magazine but I've read all the same articles time and again.
 
I don't know for sure, but it does seem to me that, over the last few years, the volume on this board is increasing and that of the AOPA forum is diminishing a bit. I wish that there were only ONE of these boards.

I monitor both boards in an attempt to learn something, fearing that I might miss something.

I think it is silly when someone starts the exact same thread on both of these boards. I don't like typing enough to respond to the same question on both boards, and having to read duplicate threads and responses just dilutes the whole experience.

Wells
 
DavidWhite said:
You will never find a more wretched hive of scum and villainy.
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I just took advantage of the $25 membership for the magazine. I am new to flying and these forums but I have liked reading the pilot training mag. Why are the so bad???

thanks!
 
I think he was mostly kidding. His post was a quote from Star Wars.
 
FWIW, I am sorry this thread degenerated, and Tom stopped posting. I appreciated getting Tom's comments. Although he's getting paid to do it, he showed (to me anyway) an honest attempt to address areas of concern. The fact that he was lurking and trying to get some grassroots feelings does show me something quite positive coming out of AOPA.

So, Tom, I hope you're still on here; I hope you keep coming back and posting; and I hope that AOPA does become more responsive to its members.
 
Lance F said:
FWIW, I am sorry this thread degenerated, and Tom stopped posting. I appreciated getting Tom's comments. Although he's getting paid to do it, he showed (to me anyway) an honest attempt to address areas of concern. The fact that he was lurking and trying to get some grassroots feelings does show me something quite positive coming out of AOPA.

So, Tom, I hope you're still on here; I hope you keep coming back and posting; and I hope that AOPA does become more responsive to its members.
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Where's the Like button on this thing?
 
SkyHog said:
That's a fantastic idea!! I wish we had something like that - I can't believe we never have....

MODS!! Have you heard of this awesomeness yet?

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They probably wouldn't implement it since certain members would get upset they didn't get enough "thanks" for their posts, and then they would have to disable it like they did reputation, stars, etc... because someone didn't get a virtual pat on the back from people they never met.
 
Attached is a screenshot of what happens when I try to access the red board from work. It's funny too because I can get to AOPA.org and all other subsites except the forums. They don't block this one or the purple board either. :dunno:
 

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Since the reason given is that it's an advocacy group, the fact that you can still get to the main AOPA page is apparently an error. They probably don't consider the blue and purple boards advocacy groups.
 
EdFred said:
They probably wouldn't implement it since certain members would get upset they didn't get enough "thanks" for their posts, and then they would have to disable it like they did reputation, stars, etc... because someone didn't get a virtual pat on the back from people they never met.
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I was being sarcastic and referencing reputation .
 
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