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Planning my 1st trip to Bahamas.
Trying to get my radio license.
When I follow all the instructions I found online, it says to log on the CORES and use the link in the upper left to "apply for new license"
Only problem is that I don't see such a link anywhere on CORES.
I have searched all over the FCC website and cant seem to find "apply for new license"
I'm sure it right in from of my face but I cant find it.

Any suggestions would be appreciated!
 
Suggestion? Skip it. I've been to the Bahamas numerous times in different airplanes. Nobody will ever ask for it, on either side.
 
You don't apply for the license on cores. That just gets you the FRN. You have to them go to the ULS site (wireless2.fcc.gov) and log in there with your FRN and then you can apply. It's the top item on the side bar on the left.

I've never held a restricted (at least not to my knowledge). I had a third class radiotelephone with broadcast endorsement from before I was a pilot. Subsequently, I've had the second class and now the general radiotelephone and the second (now just plain) radiotelegraph license.
 
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Assuming you want to do this completely and correctly, you'll need BOTH:
-- a radio operator permit for you the pilot (generally a "Restricted Radiotelephone Operator Permit") -- these do not have an expiration, and
-- a radio station license for the aircraft (generally a "RADIO STATION AUTHORIZATION") -- these expire in ~10 years
 
I have a radio operator permit,no one has ever asked to see it. In my trips to the Bahamas no one asked
 
wayneda40 said:
Assuming you want to do this completely and correctly, you'll need BOTH:
-- a radio operator permit for you the pilot (generally a "Restricted Radiotelephone Operator Permit") -- these do not have an expiration, and
-- a radio station license for the aircraft (generally a "RADIO STATION AUTHORIZATION") -- these expire in ~10 years
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Good point on the station license.
 
frfly172 said:
I have a radio operator permit,no one has ever asked to see it. In my trips to the Bahamas no one asked
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It's more likely that some US customs guy will ask for it on the way back in than you'd ever have to show it abroad.
 
Never been asked for in many international part 91 trips over many years. As far as the Bahamas are concerned, all they want is your money.
 
flyingron said:
It's more likely that some US customs guy will ask for it on the way back in than you'd ever have to show it abroad.
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And then pull guns on you when you are looking through your paperwork and tell you to put your hands up before he shoots. Some commotion later, then he says welcome home next time I’ll take you out so have it ready before I get to the airplane.
 
I’m sorta curious - how does the US FCC get to create a licensing requirement for another country in the first place?
 
Seems like it's really just a bureaucratic technicality that nobody really cares about until you land in some banana republic and some local official smells a bribe opportunity.
 
cowman said:
Seems like it's really just a bureaucratic technicality that nobody really cares about until you land in some banana republic and some local official smells a bribe opportunity.
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You're correct, many of these "requirements" are bureaucratic details seldom required upon arriving at the Airport of Entry. In my experience, however, the bureaucracy involved on the US-side can be every bit as illogical and random as what I've seen around Latin America.
 
Half Fast said:
I’m sorta curious - how does the US FCC get to create a licensing requirement for another country in the first place?
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Becuase you're in a US-registered aircraft. There are exemptions for domestic VHF use, but that ends at the borders. The US regulations on this are set by international agreement.
 
ICAO. But the other country has the requirement not us. We had it for a long time. Mine was issued in 1974. Was required if you flew a plane with transmit ability.
 
Mikey52 said:
ICAO. But the other country has the requirement not us. We had it for a long time. Mine was issued in 1974. Was required if you flew a plane with transmit ability.
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We still have it once you operate outside the US borders or on HF.
 
I thought it was a ICC requirement.
 
Misspoke, meant ITU, kinda the icao for the fcc. International telegraph union.
 
Yes very much like the ICAO. They can promulgate "regulations" but they are meaningless unless the member states adopt them. You are correct, the requirement to have a station/operator license is likely rooted in these regs once the communications is outside the physical US borders. Domestic VHF is short range enough not to be in their purview.

It was the same thing that kept the anachronistic requirement for morse code in ham licenses for so long. I busted ass to get 20WPM to get the highest level, but was still glad to see it go.
 
flyingron said:
I busted ass to get 20WPM to get the highest level, but was still glad to see it go.
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I have advocated for replacing the code test with a typing test. If you've ever used PSK31 and tried to sort out the gibberish some folks type,....
 
Half Fast said:
I have advocated for replacing the code test with a typing test. If you've ever used PSK31 and tried to sort out the gibberish some folks type,....
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I'd be OK with that. When I was in the sixth grade my mother asked my teacher what to do about my sloppy handwriting. Her response was, "Buy him a typewriter." She did and then she made me take typing in summer school the year before I started high school. Nobody but girls took that (it was a secretarial skill back in those pre-computer days). Little did we know that in a few years when computers were a big part of my career, the fact that I could type 60WPM would come in very handy.

At one point one of my employees was trying to figure out how to get something into machine readable form. I just told him to prop it up next to the monitor and I blasted through it in a couple of minutes.
 
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