Radiation from Japan detected on planes landing at KORD

ScottM said:
I am surprised that they do this test and I guess I am not surprised that the aircraft are picking up radiation from Japan. It does make one really wonder just what is really happening with the radiation leak out of the reactors over there.
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It's all in the calibration. For example, after some therapies patients are radioactive enough to trigger detectors in tunnels leading to Manhattan. Doctors know to tell them not to fly, but did not know to warn against riding a cab, tut tut. In case of Japan there's also a heightened awareness. A man sees what he expects to see.
 
Cap'n Jack said:
How often does it happen? Name examples.
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Trapper John said:
I'd be pretty surprised if a seed could survive all of the processes that waste goes through in a treatment plant. Especially the sludge dryer.
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http://books.google.com/books?id=68... human feces survive sewage treatment&f=false

Tomato and figs seeds, which seem to survive passage through the human alimentary tract, are a characteristic component of human feces. When seeds are discharged eventually into the sea, they constitute an appreciable fraction of the "plankton' samples that can be collected in fine nets in, say, the English Channel, though it is unlikely that any could germinate there. In many sewage treatment plants, the abundance of tomato plants attests to the remarkable viability of such seeds after withstanding human digestive juices.
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Obviously the reason that the seeds are not germinating in the English Channel is the salt water. But release them in a fresh water environment and it is very possible that they will grow.

This also clearly shows that the theory put forth in this thread that it is possible to have seeds pass through the human bowel and then grow, even after sewage treatment is not only possible but it is in fact true.


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Title: Merde
ISBN: 0375501983 9780375501982 0812992512 9780812992519 OCLC Number: 39275835
Description: xvi, 187 p. ; 21 cm.
Author: Ralph A. Lewin.
 
Scott- thank you for the reference.

I do hope I am correct that passage through our alimentary tracts removes the parasites that are a legitimate concern to our agriculture.
 
ScottM said:
http://books.google.com/books?id=68... human feces survive sewage treatment&f=false



Obviously the reason that the seeds are not germinating in the English Channel is the salt water. But release them in a fresh water environment and it is very possible that they will grow.

This also clearly shows that the theory put forth in this thread that it is possible to have seeds pass through the human bowel and then grow, even after sewage treatment is not only possible but it is in fact true.


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Title: Merde
ISBN: 0375501983 9780375501982 0812992512 9780812992519 OCLC Number: 39275835
Description: xvi, 187 p. ; 21 cm.
Author: Ralph A. Lewin.
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I don't care if he's right or wrong. I'm just impressed that someone would write an entire book about s***!

Wonder how many people have tried the old, "Pull my finger" gag at his book signings...
 
Trapper John said:
I don't care if he's right or wrong. I'm just impressed that someone would write an entire book about s***!

Wonder how many people have tried the old, "Pull my finger" gag at his book signings...
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I was reading a book about Nebraska geology last night and there were references to fossilized shark droppings. Apparently important in geology, biology, and anthropology.
 
Cap'n Jack said:
I was reading a book about Nebraska geology last night and there were references to fossilized shark droppings. Apparently important in geology, biology, and anthropology.
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Coprolite jewelry - made from fossilized poop.
 
Cap'n Jack said:
Scott- thank you for the reference.

I do hope I am correct that passage through our alimentary tracts removes the parasites that are a legitimate concern to our agriculture.
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I don't know about that. I do know that parasites that are dangerous to us will survive. In china they use untreated human feces for fertilizer and people do pick up interesting parasites. I also am in the middle of treating a new feline member of my family for coccidia. That is a parasite passed through feces to other animals but not humans.
 
ScottM said:
I don't know about that. I do know that parasites that are dangerous to us will survive. In china they use untreated human feces for fertilizer and people do pick up interesting parasites. I also am in the middle of treating a new feline member of my family for coccidia. That is a parasite passed through feces to other animals but not humans.
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Scott- you are correct in what you say, but those organisms tend to have a lifecycle based on humans and/or are hosted by humans. What I'm talking about is an organism that uses a plant for a host. The use of "night soil" as fertilizer tends to suggest that plant parasites do not tend to survive passage through the human alimentary system. Who wants to infest their crop with Rice Blast Fungus?

There are coprophilous fungi whose spores survive being eaten, but these tend to be associated with cattle, sheep, and other herbivores. Their life cycle tend to shoot their spores onto plants, mainly because the plants (and spores) will be eaten by the cow.
 
I also seem to remember occasional deaths from e coli contact via feces in swimming pools. Which have chlorine in them.
 
Cap'n Jack said:
Scott- you are correct in what you say, but those organisms tend to have a lifecycle based on humans and/or are hosted by humans. What I'm talking about is an organism that uses a plant for a host. The use of "night soil" as fertilizer tends to suggest that plant parasites do not tend to survive passage through the human alimentary system. Who wants to infest their crop with Rice Blast Fungus?

There are coprophilous fungi whose spores survive being eaten, but these tend to be associated with cattle, sheep, and other herbivores. Their life cycle tend to shoot their spores onto plants, mainly because the plants (and spores) will be eaten by the cow.
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Ah ok, thanks for explaining that further.
 
woodstock said:
I also seem to remember occasional deaths from e coli contact via feces in swimming pools. Which have chlorine in them.
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Possibly true, but E. Coli isn't really an agricultural pest.

The problems seen with plants and E. Coli are generally unsanitized manure, manure that hasn't been on the ground long enough before harvest, or food service workers that don't wash their hands after using the loo. The plants themselves aren't harmed.

I'm also wondering how this conversation is on the Blue, rather than the Purple board.
 
I heard something today that apparently the TSA has radiation monitors at some checkpoints.... and has harassed folks that had medical procedures. Ditto NYC at some of the tunnels.
 
wsuffa said:
I heard something today that apparently the TSA has radiation monitors at some checkpoints.... and has harassed folks that had medical procedures. Ditto NYC at some of the tunnels.
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C'mon Bill. TSA harassing people for no real good reason. Do you really expect us to believe such a fanciful tale? :ihih:
 
ScottM said:
C'mon Bill. TSA harassing people for no real good reason. Do you really expect us to believe such a fanciful tale? :ihih:
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It's all about winning hearts and minds, Scott:

25rjudd
 
Human waste can't be that dangerous. After all, everyone around me has a septic field... and a well. My weeds grow much higher in the septic field too.
 
Everskyward said:
Human waste can't be that dangerous. After all, everyone around me has a septic field... and a well. My weeds grow much higher in the septic field too.
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Human waste is safe in a country with adequate hygiene regulations! Just wait until our poop is deregulated under the GOP.

SZ?
 
Everskyward said:
Human waste can't be that dangerous. After all, everyone around me has a septic field... and a well. My weeds grow much higher in the septic field too.
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You must not live where there are beaches. Lots of eColi warnings in the summer for swimmers from the poop that gets into the bodies of water.
 
ScottM said:
You must not live where there are beaches. Lots of eColi warnings in the summer for swimmers from the poop that gets into the bodies of water.
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True, not many beaches in CO. I don't immerse myself in the septic field either, but some of my lower-lying neighbors have had theirs submerged during flash floods.
 
If anyone here starts describing their bowel movements with that scale, I'm outta here.

"How were you on the Bristol Scale today?" could become a good inside joke, however.
 
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