Promiscuous Airplanes

Jim K

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Went flying in the the One Hundred & Seventy-Two yesterday, and wondered how many hours I had in it now, so I went to the aircraft tab in MyFlightbook, and was surprised to see 10 users had logged flights in it.
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Then I thought to check the archer that was a 141 plane in its former life:

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I'm guessing that's only about 5% of the pilots who have actually flown these planes. I'm sure there are flight school planes that have trained thousands. Who's got a MFB plane with more users? @EricBe can you see this stat on your end?

That reminds me....I should send a few bucks, the app/site is excellent.
 
The 152 I trained in had 15k hrs at the time and is still flying.

Let’s say the average student took 60 hrs, zero to hero.

15,000 / 60 = 250 “Johns”

That doesn’t even include the CFIs, spin training, discovery flights, and drop outs.

Ho 152.
 
Well, I thought it was interesting lol.

455 Bravo Uniform said:
The 152 I trained in had 15k hrs at the time and is still flying.

Let’s say the average student took 60 hrs, zero to hero.

15,000 / 60 = 250 “Johns”

That doesn’t even include the CFIs, spin training, discovery flights, and drop outs.

Ho 152.
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49T was part of a fleet of maybe 15 Archers, which the students were assigned by "dispatch" as I understand it. Good chance most of the students flew all of the planes as they progressed through the program. Just over 10,000 hours when the club bought it....500 students? Maybe more?

Same club had a Warrior with a bit over 15K on it that they purchased new. I wish I knew how many people earned their private in that plane... your 250 number is probably pretty close.
 
That's a lot of sweaty butts on the seat. Hope seats are leather. If not -> really gross.
 
Jim K said:
Butt sweat and old electronics... the smell of old airplanes. Nothing better.
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Should we get little trees to make that air freshener? Using that loosely
 
Plane I got my certificate in back in 69 is still registered, now with a private owner.

Cheers
 
455 Bravo Uniform said:
The 152 I trained in had 15k hrs at the time and is still flying.

Let’s say the average student took 60 hrs, zero to hero.

15,000 / 60 = 250 “Johns”

That doesn’t even include the CFIs, spin training, discovery flights, and drop outs.

Ho 152.
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As Jim pointed out, lot of people use several planes when getting PPL. If you figure you used four different planes at least once, then you've got 1000 unique pilots.

But you have "reach" (How many) and "Frequency" (how often). You have a plane being used by a lot of different pilots often. I would call that plane "popular".
 
X3 Skier said:
Plane I got my certificate in back in 69 is still registered, now with a private owner.

Cheers
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I bought a Cessna 150 last year and the guy who sold the plane to me actually trained in that same plane like 30 years before he bought it. He didn't realize it until after he bought it and saw his name in the logs. It was his first flight back then.

The Cherokee I currently own had eight owners since 1966. The other day, I looked through the ownership record and noticed a guy I actually know personally, but lives like 1,000 miles away, owned the plane back in the '80s. Lots of a**es sit in these old planes over the years, yet the aviation community is so small, chances are we all sit in each other's a** sweat at some point lol.
 
This is a cute thread. There’s some T-38 out there with thousands, if not tens of thousands butts in the seat. Then there’s crew served planes. At our highest, we pushed 749 students/yr thru in the E-3 school house. We had a 1:1 student:instructor ratio, so it was rare not to have all 40 seats full on four sorties a day.
 
Of the planes I've flown, MFB has one with 61 different pilots, another with 53 and then a few in the 40s and 30s.
 

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This is a cute thread. There’s some T-38 out there with thousands, if not tens of thousands butts in the seat. Then there’s crew served planes. At our highest, we pushed 749 students/yr thru in the E-3 school house. We had a 1:1 student:instructor ratio, so it was rare not to have all 40 seats full on four sorties a day.
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I hadn't considered military planes. I was thinking of the 737's and CRJ's, but I don't know how often pilots change routes. Some of the still flying dc-3's would likely have an impressive number. Maybe some of the bigger puppy mill flight schools, although they probably turn over their fleet faster than the military.
 
Jim K said:
… Maybe some of the bigger puppy mill flight schools, although they probably turn over their fleet faster than the military.
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I’m curious the oldest tail # @hindsight2020 flew, whether Buff, Talon, or Tweet. I crewed out on a EC-130 with a 63-XXXX tail number.
 
TCABM said:
I’m curious the oldest tail # @hindsight2020 flew, whether Buff, Talon, or Tweet. I crewed out on a EC-130 with a 63-XXXX tail number.
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Most H models in the current lineup are '60 models, which is all I flew. The Gs and Fs all got flown-out in Desert Storm I and subsequently mothballed. Those suckers were 50ish. Had the Buff been tasked to do what the Bone did during the turkey shoot of the 2000s and early 2010s (OIF), it wouldn't have fared well on the longevity front. The crews hated it that, but that's why the buff remains and the bone doesn't, mx nightmare the swing wing contraption is on its own right. Good bad or indifferent, it has been a bench warmer all its life (nuke alert through Vietnam until pretty much today), and it will continue to do so wrt contested airspace campaigns. It's high time that thing gets retired, but our capitalization priorities force us to fly the equivalent of a B-17 in Serbia 1994. Digressing.

These days most of the Talon tails I fly are early early 60s models as well. Airframes designed for 8k....you don't want to know what the 781 lists their TTAF hours at these days lol. The Pacer Classic mod promised to extend airframe life to late 2020s, but much of that has been a band aid in my opinion.

The only airframe I've flown that's actually younger than me has been the Tex2 circa 2000-2007 models. Did fly one straight out of the factory in pilot training, incidentally the gear light harness was assembled wrong, got unsafe gear indications out of the first takeoff off the line lol. So much for the FCF checkout flight.

The T-7 will thus be a nice consolation prize for a career spent flying my airplanes I share with people currently in hospice care. Though I take caution in counting that chicken just yet, at the rate that afterthought of a program is being rolled out currently. We'll see.
 
Promiscuous planes.....

I was expecting something different...

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hindsight2020 said:
Most H models in the current lineup are '60 models, which is all I flew. The Gs and Fs all got flown-out in Desert Storm I and subsequently mothballed. Those suckers were 50ish. Had the Buff been tasked to do what the Bone did during the turkey shoot of the 2000s and early 2010s (OIF), it wouldn't have fared well on the longevity front. The crews hated it that, but that's why the buff remains and the bone doesn't, mx nightmare the swing wing contraption is on its own right. Good bad or indifferent, it has been a bench warmer all its life (nuke alert through Vietnam until pretty much today), and it will continue to do so wrt contested airspace campaigns. It's high time that thing gets retired, but our capitalization priorities force us to fly the equivalent of a B-17 in Serbia 1994. Digressing.

These days most of the Talon tails I fly are early early 60s models as well. Airframes designed for 8k....you don't want to know what the 781 lists their TTAF hours at these days lol. The Pacer Classic mod promised to extend airframe life to late 2020s, but much of that has been a band aid in my opinion.

The only airframe I've flown that's actually younger than me has been the Tex2 circa 2000-2007 models. Did fly one straight out of the factory in pilot training, incidentally the gear light harness was assembled wrong, got unsafe gear indications out of the first takeoff off the line lol. So much for the FCF checkout flight.

The T-7 will thus be a nice consolation prize for a career spent flying my airplanes I share with people currently in hospice care. Though I take caution in counting that chicken just yet, at the rate that afterthought of a program is being rolled out currently. We'll see.
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Whatsa bone?
 
Jim K said:
Went flying in the the One Hundred & Seventy-Two yesterday, and wondered how many hours I had in it now, so I went to the aircraft tab in MyFlightbook, and was surprised to see 10 users had logged flights in it.
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Then I thought to check the archer that was a 141 plane in its former life:

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I'm guessing that's only about 5% of the pilots who have actually flown these planes. I'm sure there are flight school planes that have trained thousands. Who's got a MFB plane with more users? @EricBe can you see this stat on your end?

That reminds me....I should send a few bucks, the app/site is excellent.
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Apologies - was on vacation for two weeks. Fun question! If I restrict to actual flying machines, and ignore "anonymous" aircraft**, then here are the top 20 aircraft in the system as of right now. I've never done this specific query before, and what's fascinating is that this ain't GA focused:

Users Tail Model
275 N431SW Bombardier CL-600-2B19
273 N969SW Bombardier CL-600-2B19
271 N406A Piper PA-28-181
269 N453SW Bombardier CL-600-2B19
268 N970SW Bombardier CL-600-2B19
268 N910EV Bombardier CL-600-2B19
267 N912EV Bombardier CL-600-2B19
265 N978SW Bombardier CL-600-2B19
263 N980SW Bombardier CL-600-2B19
263 N454SW Bombardier CL-600-2B19
263 N452SW Bombardier CL-600-2B19
263 N961SW Bombardier CL-600-2B19
262 N947SW Bombardier CL-600-2B19
262 N939SW Bombardier CL-600-2B19
262 N959SW Bombardier CL-600-2B19
261 N924SW Bombardier CL-600-2B19
261 N903SW Bombardier CL-600-2B19
261 N709BR Bombardier CL-600-2B19
261 N971SW Bombardier CL-600-2B19
259 N975SW Bombardier CL-600-2B19

**If I include "anonymous" aircraft (show up most in people's accounts, but obviously aren't a butt in a specific seat), the top 20 models being flown "anonymously" are below. The 172/152 are no surprise as trainers, but look at how high some of these military aircraft are showing!
Users Model
1361 Cessna C-172
791 Cessna C-152
486 Sikorsky UH-60M
423 Boeing B737-800
408 Cessna C-172 S
372 Sikorsky UH-60L
340 Piper PA-44-180
336 Airbus A320
326 Bell TH-67
314 Sikorsky UH-60A
293 Beechcraft T-34C
293 Cessna C-172 S G-1000
276 Beechcraft T-1A
262 Beechcraft T-6
259 Cessna C-150
250 Bell TH-67A
250 Generic ASEL
246 Bell OH-58A/C
241 Cessna C-182
230 Cessna C-172 R
 
We had Cessna 150 donated to my A&P school in the 1980’s that acquired 25,000 hours. The last place it flew was AFI at KFUL. Not sure if that’s a record for a C150, but it sure is impressive. It’s also a testament to how safe flying can be. That’s a lot of inexperienced students soloing and flying cross-countries and keeping themselves and the airplane in one piece.
 
EricBe said:
Apologies - was on vacation for two weeks. Fun question! If I restrict to actual flying machines, and ignore "anonymous" aircraft**, then here are the top 20 aircraft in the system as of right now. I've never done this specific query before, and what's fascinating is that this ain't GA focused:

Users Tail Model
275 N431SW Bombardier CL-600-2B19
273 N969SW Bombardier CL-600-2B19
271 N406A Piper PA-28-181
269 N453SW Bombardier CL-600-2B19
268 N970SW Bombardier CL-600-2B19
268 N910EV Bombardier CL-600-2B19
267 N912EV Bombardier CL-600-2B19
265 N978SW Bombardier CL-600-2B19
263 N980SW Bombardier CL-600-2B19
263 N454SW Bombardier CL-600-2B19
263 N452SW Bombardier CL-600-2B19
263 N961SW Bombardier CL-600-2B19
262 N947SW Bombardier CL-600-2B19
262 N939SW Bombardier CL-600-2B19
262 N959SW Bombardier CL-600-2B19
261 N924SW Bombardier CL-600-2B19
261 N903SW Bombardier CL-600-2B19
261 N709BR Bombardier CL-600-2B19
261 N971SW Bombardier CL-600-2B19
259 N975SW Bombardier CL-600-2B19

**If I include "anonymous" aircraft (show up most in people's accounts, but obviously aren't a butt in a specific seat), the top 20 models being flown "anonymously" are below. The 172/152 are no surprise as trainers, but look at how high some of these military aircraft are showing!
Users Model
1361 Cessna C-172
791 Cessna C-152
486 Sikorsky UH-60M
423 Boeing B737-800
408 Cessna C-172 S
372 Sikorsky UH-60L
340 Piper PA-44-180
336 Airbus A320
326 Bell TH-67
314 Sikorsky UH-60A
293 Beechcraft T-34C
293 Cessna C-172 S G-1000
276 Beechcraft T-1A
262 Beechcraft T-6
259 Cessna C-150
250 Bell TH-67A
250 Generic ASEL
246 Bell OH-58A/C
241 Cessna C-182
230 Cessna C-172 R
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That's fascinating. Apparently skywest is using your app, which is also fascinating. And that one archer hanging in there lol
 
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