Power on stalls, full flaps

Do tell, oh Great One. Never tried a takeoff with full flaps in a Cessna? No? You have the ideal skill set to be an internet expert.
 
Stewartb said:
Sure thing. I’ll take y’alls advice under advisement. Hopefully you get some advanced training on how to fly airplanes instead of how to run scared for your interpretation of limitations. Full flap limitation is 90mph. Neither takeoffs or stalls exceed that. Good thing my Cub is experimental, or you guys might go mental!
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Maybe you’ll get some much needed dual instruction on a) How to read limitations and how they apply, and b) How not to bust limitations and the consequences that may follow.
 
DesertNomad said:
If you go around with 40 degrees of flaps, you are now in a takeoff mode, but obviously need to get the flaps up and can certainly stall the airplane in the process.
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You don’t go around with a flap setting of 40.

A go around is 1) Increase power, 2) set pitch, then 3) set flaps. In a plane like a 172, going from 40 (or 30) to 20 will not stall the plane if power and pitch are set.
 
You don’t fly in very challenging places, apparently. Reset flaps where I go? You crash. I have a different agenda. Not to train pilots about 40° flap, aft trim go-arounds is irresponsible. Wear it.

I should qualify that the first two instructors that showed me this stuff? One was the FSDO safety manager and the other the most loved, revered, respected flight instructor in Alaska history. I’m happy with where I am. I wouldn’t fly back country or mountains with you.
 
Doc Holliday said:
You don’t go around with a flap setting of 40.

A go around is 1) Increase power, 2) set pitch, then 3) set flaps. In a plane like a 172, going from 40 (or 30) to 20 will not stall the plane if power and pitch are set.
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No, the stall mode is 40 (or 30 on newer ones) degrees of flaps and go around. It will immediately pitch up and if someone is not on top of things could stall quickly. It's basically an elevator trim stall. I certainly had to do them to earn my CFI certificate.
 
DesertNomad said:
No, the stall mode is 40 (or 30 on newer ones) degrees of flaps and go around. It will immediately pitch up and if someone is not on top of things could stall quickly. It's basically an elevator trim stall. I certainly had to do them to earn my CFI certificate.
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You are confusing two different things, a proper go around technique, and training to recognize a stall on a botched go around.

The emphasis should be on the correct go around technique, which is power-pitch-flaps, then a demo of an approach to stall with full power and landing flaps and recover.
 
Doc Holliday said:
The emphasis should be on the correct go around technique, which is power-pitch-flaps, then a demo of an approach to stall with full power and landing flaps and recover.
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Yes, and I had to take that to a full stall break.
 
Doc Holliday said:
Found an online pdf of a Cessna 180K flight manual. Under Section 2 “Limitations”, page 2-8 Other Limitations it states

Flap Limitations

Approved Take Off Range 0 to 20. (degrees)
Approved Landing Range 30 to 40 (degrees)
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That would imply you can't land with 0 flaps?
 
did some TNGs where just kept the 20deg of flaps out in a 172 until 500 ft agl then cleaned up the airplane.
 
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