POA Frequency

Timbeck2 said:
We've always used 123.45
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...and you couldn't be more wrong. That frequency is assigned (all frequencies are assigned, there are no vacancies) to manufacturers for flight testing and to certain trans-oceanic flight sectors. In my neck of the woods it belongs to Boeing, and they do not appreciate it being usurped by folks who are not authorized to use it.

Bob Gardner
 
Timbeck2 said:
The airline guys were blowing up 121.5 last night trying to get the score to the Cubs Indians game.
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Once upon a time you could do that with an ADF. Aside from many planes not having ADF any more, the likelihood of a broadcast station actually carrying the game (as opposed to political claptrap) is slim to none.

Timbeck2 said:
Not to be argumentative here Greg but where is is written that it is "illegal" to broadcast on 123.45? To be clear, I've broadcast on that frequency on two flights and less than 5 or 6 transmissions on each. Do the oceanic flights interfere with the flight tests because they're on the same frequency? Who are the testing facilities that use that frequency? If it is jammed or being used by an oceanic flight do they have a backup or do they scrub the mission? Or is it "illegal" in the sense that asking what the score or the Cubs Indians game is on an emergency frequency is "illegal?"
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"Illegal" in the sense of administrative law as you have both a license for the radio service and an operator license. Most likely a slap-on-the-wrist warning the first time on gets caught, escalating from there.

How to identify? Well, it would take cooperation between the FCC and FAA - the FCC does have the capability to direction-find transmitters (including those in flight) and use some technological means to "fingerprint" the transmitter involved, but the FAA would need to identify the plane via radar. ADS-B Out changes the equation and makes it pretty easy for the FCC (and others) to tie an aircraft at a particular location to it's ID and destination without FAA involvement.

Note I said "can", meaning they have the capability to do it. Whether it's a priority is a different matter.
 
It was asked about where the use of 123.45 was written. Try 47CFR87.303. Title 47 of the Code of Federal Regulations is the FCC Rules (Telecommunications). 87.303 provides frequencies for flight test. And the use of 123.450 is specifically called out in this section. It is NOT an idle chit-chat frequency and the authorized users won't see the humor in your using it.
 
We recently flew to Live Oak Florida and was a flight of two Cherokees on Flight Following. We used 123.45 for our chit chat freq. Heard some chatter over MS, AL, and GA, mostly hillbillies talking trash about Bama fans which I was cool with. But when we got to Florida 123.45 I swear was a CTAF freq. Peeps were all over it giving position reports to airfields. Seemed strange to us.
 
Timbeck2 said:
Got no problem using 22.75 either but I'm curious, who yelled at you and what did they say?

You know the pilot/forum community is funny. We admittedly defend our position on what we think is illegal or frowned upon or may endanger someone else yet we think nothing at all of breaking the posted speed limit on the road. Just an observation of which I'm just as guilty as the next guy.
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Saying that something is illegal is not the same as saying that it's necessarily a big deal. The latter depends on the circumstances.
 
Palmpilot said:
Saying that something is illegal is not the same as saying that it's necessarily a big deal. The latter depends on the circumstances.
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In my line of work violating the FCC Rules is a bad idea (sitting in an EMC standards committee meeting in Hangzhou China as I type this). FCC Rules are easy to follow, why be difficult?
 
Ghery said:
In my line of work violating the FCC Rules is a bad idea (sitting in an EMC standards committee meeting in Hangzhou China as I type this). FCC Rules are easy to follow, why be difficult?
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Yeah, like using cell phones in flight....such a horrible idea...

Let's get real. Incorrectly using 123.45 is about on the same level as someone making a phone call from a GA airplane.
 
mulligan said:
What needs to be done to get a "POA Frequency" for when I fly and am bored and want to tell jokes in the air or just chit chat? You know, like truckers have channel 16. One that doesn't yell "your on guard" and allows friendly conversation.
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You want a POA frequency, and you believe that it will be "friendly"? Ha, ha! Take a look at most of the question threads around here and see how they end up. ;)
 
Fearless Tower said:
Yeah, like using cell phones in flight....such a horrible idea...

Let's get real. Incorrectly using 123.45 is about on the same level as someone making a phone call from a GA airplane.
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Let's get real. 123.45 is a purpose based frequency restricted to those who have applied to the FCC for a specific use licence. You and I ain't done that.

A quick fcc search shows 52 active licenses.

This doesn't include the yahoos who won't punch in a frequency they can't remember without counting it on their "fingers" -- or use the "well, my flight instructor / buddy / somebody else used it for years, so dammit, I can too" excuse.

Why continue to proliferate garbage logic that just serves to clutter up someone else's frequency, when there is virtually zero effort required to use the appropriate one?

http://wireless2.fcc.gov/UlsApp/UlsSearch/searchSite.jsp

Call Sign/Lease ID Name FRN Radio Service Status Expiration Date
1 KA97402 BELL HELICOPTER TEXTRON INC 0003596020 AF Active 08/12/2018
2 KA98058 FLIGHT RESEARCH INC 0008504342 AF Active 02/25/2018
3 KA98072 Learjet Inc. 0003467586 AF Active 07/13/2017
4 KA98076 Sikorsky, A Lockheed Martin Company 0017533100 AF Active 08/17/2017
5 KA98120 THE BOEING COMPANY 0001583483 AF Active 07/08/2018
6 KA98138 THE BOEING COMPANY 0001583483 AF Active 09/03/2020
7 KA98144 Honeywell International Inc. 0004452231 AF Active 08/31/2018
8 KA98763 THE BOEING COMPANY 0001583483 AF Active 01/18/2021
9 KDH4 Sikorsky, A Lockheed Martin Company 0017533100 AF Active 04/14/2019
10 KER8 THE BOEING COMPANY 0001583483 AF Active 04/05/2021
11 KGF57 THE BOEING COMPANY 0001583483 AF Active 06/14/2019
12 KN9574 Sikorsky, A Lockheed Martin Company 0017533100 AF Active 04/14/2019
13 KOS3 Northrop Grumman Systems Corporation 0003800133 AF Active 10/15/2019
14 KOX3 THE BOEING COMPANY 0001583483 AF Active 01/18/2021
15 KP2924 THE BOEING COMPANY 0001583483 AF Active 06/14/2019
16 KPS6 THE BOEING COMPANY 0001583483 AF Active 12/11/2016
17 KPW3 Honeywell International Inc. 0004452231 AF Active 05/29/2018
18 KRU7 THE BOEING COMPANY 0001583483 AF Active 02/23/2018
19 KX7596 Learjet Inc. 0003467586 AF Active 10/15/2017
20 KZN8 Raytheon Company 0013660188 AF Active 03/28/2021
21 WGC9 Calspan Corporation 0012350187 AF Active 05/24/2021
22 WIL6 Honeywell International Inc. 0004452231 AF Active 05/29/2018
23 WOZ4 Learjet Inc. 0003467586 AF Active 10/15/2017
24 WPXC367 Learjet Inc. 0003467586 AF Active 02/25/2018
25 WQBH824 Soloy Corporation 0010679546 AF Active 02/24/2020
26 WQCT904 Calspan Corporation 0012350187 AF Active 05/31/2021
27 WQDD320 Raytheon SAS 0013660188 AF Active 06/21/2020
28 WQEH933 Scaled Compsoites, LLC 0014945372 AF Active 03/31/2021
29 WQGL677 Lockheed Martin Corporation 0002149359 AF Active 02/26/2017
30 WQGL678 Lockheed Martin Corporation 0002149359 AF Active 02/26/2017
31 WQGL679 Lockheed Martin Corporation 0002149359 AF Active 02/26/2017
32 WQHP983 Kaman Aerospace Corporation 0015863442 AF Active 10/02/2017
33 WQIS992 Garmin International, Inc. 0004953568 AF Active 05/07/2018
34 WQJA727 Honeywell International Inc. 0004452231 AF Active 05/29/2018
35 WQKV727 The Boeing Company 0001583483 AF Active 09/29/2019
36 WQMI321 Honda Aircraft Company LLC 0007165384 AF Active 08/13/2020
37 WQMI322 Honda Aircraft Company LLC 0007165384 AF Active 08/13/2020
38 WQMN907 Honda Aircraft Company LLC 0007165384 AF Active 08/13/2020
39 WQNE898 THE BOEING COMPANY 0001583483 AF Active 01/13/2021
40 WQQK530 Northrop Grumman Systems Corporation 0003800133 AF Active 01/14/2018
41 WQQK531 Northrop Grumman Systems Corporation 0003800133 AF Active 01/14/2018
42 WQTL864 Lockheed Martin Corporation 0002149359 AF Active 03/03/2019
43 WQUX851 Lockheed Martin Corporation 0002149359 AF Active 11/12/2019
44 WQUX868 Lockheed Martin Corporation 0002149359 AF Active 11/12/2019
45 WQVB710 HARRIS CORPORATION 0003791472 AF Active 12/20/2019
46 WQVB712 HARRIS CORPORATION 0003791472 AF Active 12/20/2019
47 WQWE327 Northrop Grumman Systems Corporation 0003800133 AF Active 07/29/2020
48 WQWY424 Denmar Technical Services, Inc. 0021476528 AF Active 12/24/2020
49 WQWZ737 Denmar Technical Services, Inc. 0021476528 AF Active 01/08/2021
50 WQXT403 Scaled Composites, LLC 0014945372 AF Active 06/02/2021
51 WQXT404 SCALED COMPOSITES, LLC 0014945372 AF Active 06/02/2021
52 WSF80 THE BOEING COMPANY 0001583483 AF Active 03/10/2020
 
Fearless Tower said:
Yeah, like using cell phones in flight....such a horrible idea...

Let's get real. Incorrectly using 123.45 is about on the same level as someone making a phone call from a GA airplane.
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In many areas of the U.S., sure. But not in areas where actual flight testing regularly takes place.

I view this as akin to:

The small grass strip where I live, where I used to base my plane and that I used to manage for the city. 0T3, Marble Hill, MO.

When I was there (and to this day) I had a helluva time keeping the farmer who leased the surrounding city owned property off of the runway and taxiway. He was constantly cutting across both during planting, fertilizing and harvesting with trucks, tractors, combines, etc.

That little airport sees one operation a week these days (at most) so the chances of something bad happening is quite remote. But, it would be sadly unnecessary and, hoooboy!, the lawyers would have a heyday if something did happen. It's on the charts, it's remote and thus would be "nearest" for a large area if someone had an emergency.

Why chance it? Why chance being on the runway when someone is trying to make an emergency landing? Why chance yaking on 123.45 when some flight test pilot has an emergency and needs the frequency?

The other thing that used to pizz me off about the local farmer. Try landing on a grass runway when big tractors running ag tires had traversed back and forth across it numerous time just a few days earlier when ample moisture was in the ground. It'll check all your filling and make sure they're tight! And it'll really pizz you off if you'd have spent an entire day the weekend before rolling the runway and had it as smooth as a baby's butt.
 
We need a chat room on POA so I can watch all the feuding of POA live!
 
F01LA said:
You want a POA frequency, and you believe that it will be "friendly"? Ha, ha! Take a look at most of the question threads around here and see how they end up. ;)
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No kidding.

Everyone would be talking on their own frequency and simultaneously getting ticked off that no one was rogering up.
 
ElPaso Pilot said:
Who made "radioreference.com LLC" an authoritative source?
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The same people who believes every comment made here an "authoritative source".

Some people here don't bother to read the entire thread. They read down to something they don't agree with or feel they can prove wrong and fire up the fingertips and blast away. Maybe I should add that to the pet peeve thread. I'm outa this one.
 
The reality is that every frequency is a PoA frequency.

Don't touch that dial, don't touch the PTT. Just say what you want.

"No one's listening anyway, hey, hey, hey, Our lips are sealed" Take your pick, Go-go's, Funboy Three, or Hillary Duff.
 
On using 122.75 and other designated air to air frequencies. There are places where it is "formally" used to exchange traffic. Many airports have Special Notices in the Chart Supplement that instruct using 122.75 and others. These are usually at locations with intensive training. Idle air to air chit chat can compromise safety at times. I've heard people talking about what to bring to the BBQ when training aircraft are trying to get a word in to exchange info about doing stalls and stuff. Knowing if there is some "formal" use of the frequency where you are is a good idea.
 
Fearless Tower said:
Let's get real. Incorrectly using 123.45 is about on the same level as someone making a phone call from a GA airplane.
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I'll keep that in mind next time we get stepped on :rolleyes:

Nauga,
who says, "Don't tread on me."
 
nauga said:
I'll keep that in mind next time we get stepped on :rolleyes:

Nauga,
who says, "Don't tread on me."
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If a pilot can't apply some common sense, i.e. Listen before speaking on a radio, that is a whole 'nother story...

But, this is POA, so common sense is frequently optional...
 
Ghery said:
In my line of work violating the FCC Rules is a bad idea (sitting in an EMC standards committee meeting in Hangzhou China as I type this). FCC Rules are easy to follow, why be difficult?
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I don't use 123.45 myself, nor do I recommend that others use it.
 
Timbeck2 said:
The same people who believes every comment made here an "authoritative source".

Some people here don't bother to read the entire thread. They read down to something they don't agree with or feel they can prove wrong and fire up the fingertips and blast away. Maybe I should add that to the pet peeve thread. I'm outa this one.
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Sorry that you didn't get the answer that you wanted.
 
Timbeck2 said:
Tim, you can be assured that if I ever dial up that frequency and I hear someone talking about a test flight or discussing parameters or something such as that, I would never broadcast on the frequency in the first place. K? (I'm not the idiot who tried to kill you at Gastons) I've never been accused of "yapping away" on frequency or normal conversation. Around here in Southern Arizona, I've never heard anyone on the frequency at all.

I'm sure testing centers have back up frequencies that they use just in case they need to "make an emergency call to their base." There's really no need to be overly dramatic about this issue. By the way, Boeing doesn't use the frequency. I don't know who Levy is but if it is truly "illegal" to broadcast on 123.45, then a document expressing that fact shouldn't be so hard to find.

bottom line - going for education here, not confrontation. ;)
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OK, for education, here is the verbatim text from the Code of Federal Regulations that bind you every bit as much as parts 61 and 91 of the aviation chapters. The bottom line is that you have to go through a whole bunch of bushwa paperwork to prove that you are a legitimate flight test facility AND get a separate license for both the ground station and the aircraft station.

They don't hand them out like napkins. Nor does every test facility have authorization for more than one or two frequencies ... generally using one for voice and one for data. The requirement is to choke down on power to the bare minimum to keep from honking up some other facility doing testing.

Now you get Charlie Sixpack coming on the channel batting the breeze with Clem Kaddidlehopper and there blows an hour of good data. Ever calculate what an hour of pilot, airplane, engineer on board, test equipment setup, engineer on ground, plus any other expenses with flight testing are? I'd be more than happy to calculate it out for you. Not only will the FCC (NOT the FAA) be on your hiney, but a civil lawsuit for an expensive test gone to hell isn't out of the question.

Overseas? Sure, no problem. Damned few of us testing out in the middle of the Atlantic and besides, 3 miles off shore the FCC has absolutely no jurisdiction.

I could go on ...

Jim

Subpart J—Flight Test Stations
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§87.299 Scope of service.
The use of flight test stations is restricted to the transmission of necessary information or instructions relating directly to tests of aircraft or components thereof.

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§87.301 Supplemental eligibility.
(a) The following entities are eligible for flight test station licenses:

(1) Manufacturers of aircraft or major aircraft components;

(2) A parent corporation or its subsidiary if either corporation is a manufacturer of aircraft or major aircraft components; or

(3) Educational institutions and persons primarily engaged in the design, development, modification, and flight test evaluation of aircraft or major aircraft components.

(b) Each application must include a certification sufficient to establish the applicant's eligibility under the criteria in paragraph (a) of this section.

[53 FR 28940, Aug. 1, 1988, as amended at 63 FR 68957, Dec. 14, 1998]

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§87.303 Frequencies.
(a) These frequencies are available for assignment to flight test land and aircraft stations:

kHz MHz MHz MHz
3281.01 123.1752 123.2253 123.4002
123.2003 123.3753 123.4503
(b) These additional frequencies are available for assignment only to flight test stations of aircraft manufacturers:

MHz MHz MHz MHz
123.1252 123.2753 123.4253 123.5503
123.1502 123.3253 123.4753 123.5752
123.2503 123.3503 123.5253
1When R3E, H3E or J3E emission is used, the assigned frequency will be 3282.4 kHz (3281.0 kHz carrier frequency).

2This frequency is available only to itinerant stations that have a requirement to be periodically transferred to various locations.

3Mobile station operations on these frequencies are limited to an area within 320 km (200 mi) of an associated flight test land station.

(c) These frequencies are available for equipment test, emergency and backup use with aircraft beyond the range of VHF propagation. Either H2B, J3E, J7B or J9W emission may be used.

Frequencies (carrier) available kHz:

kHz

2851.0 8822.0
3004.0 10045.0
3443.0 11288.0
5451.0 11306.0
5469.0 13312.0
5571.0 17964.0
6550.0 21931.0
(d) Aeronautical mobile telemetry (AMT) operations are conducted in the 1435-1525 MHz, 2345-2395 MHz, and 5091-5150 MHz bands on a co-equal basis with U.S. Government stations.

(1) Frequencies in the band 1435-1525 MHz are also available for low power auxiliary station use on a secondary basis.

(2) Frequencies in the 5091-5150 MHz band are assigned in the aeronautical mobile service on a primary basis for flight testing of aircraft. AMT use of these frequencies is restricted to aircraft stations transmitting to aeronautical stations (AMT ground stations) in the flight test areas listed in 47 CFR 2.106, footnote US111.

(3) The authorized bandwidths for stations that operate in the 1435-1525 MHz, 2345-2395 MHz, or 5091-5150 MHz bands are normally 1, 3 or 5 MHz. Applications for greater bandwidths will be considered in accordance with the provisions of §87.135. Each assignment will be centered on a frequency between 1435.5 MHz and 1524.5 MHz, between 2345.5 MHz and 2394.5 MHz, or between 5091.5 MHz and 5149.5 MHz, with 1 MHz channel spacing.

(e) 121.500 MHz: Emergency and distress only.

(f) Frequency assignments for Flight Test VHF Stations may be based on either 8.33 kHz or 25 kHz spacing. Assignable frequencies include the interstitial frequencies 8.33 kHz from the VHF frequencies listed in paragraphs (a) and (b) of this section. Each 8.33 kHz interstitial frequency is subject to the same eligibility criteria and limitations as the nearest frequency listed in paragraphs (a) and (b) of this section.

[53 FR 28940, Aug. 1, 1988, as amended at 55 FR 4175, Feb. 7, 1990; 58 FR 44954, Aug. 25, 1993; 58 FR 67696, Dec. 22, 1993; 60 FR 37829, July 24, 1995; 62 FR 11107, Mar. 11, 1997; 68 FR 74388, Dec. 23, 2003; 69 FR 77950, Dec. 29, 2004; 71 FR 29818, May 24, 2006; 76 FR 17352, Mar. 29, 2011; 80 FR 38910, July 7, 2015; 80 FR 71731, Nov. 17, 2015]


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§87.305 Frequency coordination.
(a)(1) Each application for a new station license, renewal or modification of an existing license concerning flight test frequencies, except as provided in paragraph (b) of this section, must be accompanied by a statement from a frequency advisory committee. The committee must comment on the frequencies requested or the proposed changes in the authorized station and the probable interference to existing stations. The committee must consider all stations operating on the frequencies requested or assigned within 320 km (200 mi) of the proposed area of operation and all prior coordinations and assignments on the proposed frequency(ies). The committee must also recommend frequencies resulting in the minimum interference. The committee must coordinate in writing all requests for frequencies or proposed operating changes in the 1435-1525 MHz, 2345-2360 MHz (only until January 1, 2020), 2360-2395 MHz, and 5091-5150 MHz bands with the responsible Government Area Frequency Coordinators listed in the NTIA “Manual of Regulations and Procedures for Federal Radio Frequency Management.” In addition, committee recommendations may include comments on other technical factors and may contain recommended restrictions which it believes should appear on the license.

(2) The frequency advisory committee must be organized to represent all persons who are eligible for non-Government radio flight test stations. A statement of organization service area and composition of the committee must be submitted to the Commission for approval. The functions of any advisory committee are purely advisory to the applicant and the Commission, and its recommendations are not binding upon either the applicant or the Commission.

(b) These applications need not be accompanied by evidence of frequency coordination:

(1) Any application for modification not involving change in frequency(ies), power, emission, antenna height, antenna location or area of operation.

(2) Any application for 121.5 MHz.

[53 FR 28940, Aug. 1, 1988, as amended at 54 FR 11721, Mar. 22, 1989; 58 FR 44954, Aug. 25, 1993; 80 FR 38910, July 7, 2015]


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§87.307 Cooperative use of facilities.
(a) The Commission will license only one flight test land station per airport, except as provided in paragraph (d) of this section.

(b) Flight test land stations located at an airport are required to provide service without discrimination, on a cooperative maintenance basis, to anyone eligible for a flight test station license.

(c) When the licensee of a flight test land station intends to conduct flight tests at an area served by another flight test land station, which may result in interference, the licensees must coordinate their schedules in advance. If no agreement is reached, the Commission will determine the time division upon request by either licensee.

(d) Applicants for an additional flight test land station at an airport where such a station is already authorized may be required to submit a factual showing to include the following:

(1) Reasons why shared use of the currently licensed flight test land station is not possible; and

(2) Results of coordination with the current licensee of the flight test station at the airport demonstrating that an additional station can be accommodated without significant degradation of the reliability of existing facilities.

[53 FR 28940, Aug. 1, 1988, as amended at 63 FR 68958, Dec. 14, 1998]
 
Timbeck2 said:
The same people who believes every comment made here an "authoritative source".

Some people here don't bother to read the entire thread. They read down to something they don't agree with or feel they can prove wrong and fire up the fingertips and blast away. Maybe I should add that to the pet peeve thread. I'm outa this one.
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Sorry to run you off, but I believe most of your comments on this thread came across as, ironically, trying to prove someone wrong. Several of whom actually do know a thing or two about this topic.

By the way, since you asked to be educated, Honeywell has two claims to that frequency out of Phoenix, and Northrop Grumman has one out of Douglas / Cochise. I'd hazard a guess that the latter is involved with spooky flying border surveillance hardware.
 
Timbeck2 said:
Not according to this:

http://www.radioreference.com/apps/db/?aid=7629
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Good catch. I was going by the FCC frequency assignment....

87.303 Frequencies.
(a) These frequencies are available for assignment to flight test land and aircraft stations:

kHz MHz MHz MHz
3281.01 123.1752 123.2253 123.4002
123.2003 123.3753 123.4503

{New-2011-11 (b) revised March 29, 2011, effective May 31, 2011}
(b) These additional frequencies are available for assignment only to flight test stations of aircraft manufacturers:

MHz MHz MHz MHz
123.125 2 123.275 3 123.425 3 123.550 3
123.150 2 123.325 3 123.475 3 123.575 2
123.250 3 123.350 3 123.525 3
1 When R3E, H3E or J3E emission is used, the assigned frequency will be 3282.4 kHz (3281.0 kHz carrier frequency).
2 This frequency is available only to itinerant stations that have a requirement to be periodically transferred to various locations.
3 Mobile station operations on these frequencies are limited to an area within 320 km (200 mi) of an associated flight test land station.

Note that the figure three after 123.45 is a superscript, referring to note 3 below.

Bob
 
Timbeck2 said:
The same people who believes every comment made here an "authoritative source".

Some people here don't bother to read the entire thread. They read down to something they don't agree with or feel they can prove wrong and fire up the fingertips and blast away. Maybe I should add that to the pet peeve thread. I'm outa this one.
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Two weeks. Go high and 122.75. Holla atcha boi. From New York. LoL
 
If you want to chit-chat, get an amateur radio license...it's relatively easy to get these days, and you can chit-chat all day on nearly an unlimited number of frequencies. I do it often while flying, actually.
When you're on the air while in the air, your VHF/UHF range is expanded greatly. I've talked hundreds of miles with just a small radio sitting on the passenger seat.

Now what I'd be interested in, is a POA 2 meter frequency!
 
Timbeck2 said:
Some people here don't bother to read the entire thread. They read down to something they don't agree with or feel they can prove wrong and fire up the fingertips and blast away.
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That's the beauty of multi-quote. The best improvement with XenForo.

You can grab all of the quotes you don't agree with or can make sound wrong and splew it all out in one post. Side benefit? Easy to see you've read the whole thread.

Multi-quote and TLA's - The best friends of the advanced PoAer.
 
I feel like the old forum software had multi quote too......
 
rwellner98 said:
Recommendation for a radio?
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Actually, no. LOL. Anything that puts out a watt or two will work on 2 meters, as long as you can find a noise cancelling headset to plug into it...
I've seen people that come up with ways to plug it into their avionic panels on experimental aircraft and use their flying headsets, but since I fly certified aircraft, I don't do that. Fortunately, my aircraft is on the quiet side, so I just put the aviation radios on "speaker", and then put the 2 meter headset on covering only my left ear, leaving my right ear uncovered to listen to the speaker (if necessary).
 
tawood said:
If you want to chit-chat, get an amateur radio license...it's relatively easy to get these days, and you can chit-chat all day on nearly an unlimited number of frequencies. I do it often while flying, actually.
When you're on the air while in the air, your VHF/UHF range is expanded greatly. I've talked hundreds of miles with just a small radio sitting on the passenger seat.

Now what I'd be interested in, is a POA 2 meter frequency!
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.52 simplex. :smilewinkgrin:

Jim
 
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tawood said:
Actually, no. LOL. Anything that puts out a watt or two will work on 2 meters, as long as you can find a noise cancelling headset to plug into it...
I've seen people that come up with ways to plug it into their avionic panels on experimental aircraft and use their flying headsets, but since I fly certified aircraft, I don't do that. Fortunately, my aircraft is on the quiet side, so I just put the aviation radios on "speaker", and then put the 2 meter headset on covering only my left ear, leaving my right ear uncovered to listen to the speaker (if necessary).
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There is no regulation prohibiting a certificated person from modifying your audio panel to provide an output for a dynamic mic radio. Finding one, however, may be a problem. Note the N-Number on the aircraft in my sig.

Jim
 
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