Plane crash in Caldwell County TX (near Austin)


Ouch. Whatever happened did so in a hurry, if the track log is accurate.

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Plane lost 6800' in 60 seconds. Ice?

It's cold here today with solid cloud cover, so I'm surprised to see no icing risk on the ADDS Icing Product. The tops were forecast at 6000, so at 8000 he was out of the clouds for a long time. I'd think "catastrophic failure", but witnesses saw the airplane come intact from the clouds. Control failure, medical issue? Only the NTSB report will say (maybe)...

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Structural failure? We had a Piper Malibu crash here in Missouri a few years ago, broke apart flying through a storm.
 
If you stay within Vy they are tough birds but Vy goes DRAMATICALLY lower at lesser weights.....
 
If you stay within Vy they are tough birds but Vy goes DRAMATICALLY lower at lesser weights.....

Doc, this is one of those concepts which is counter-intuitive, and I am surprised at the number of people with whom I have spoken who are not aware of the relationship between aircraft loaded weight and Va.
 
Doc, this is one of those concepts which is counter-intuitive, and I am surprised at the number of people with whom I have spoken who are not aware of the relationship between aircraft loaded weight and Va.
I know. Pilot training is totally inadequate.

I pinch myself and remind myself that there are SOME excellent Malibu/Mirage/Jetprop/Meridian pilots out there.
 
When my 340 crashed on a winter day in 1987, they said it was in a spiral dive, described as a vertical barrel roll with 6 g's and no chance of recovery once established. Vertical speed similar to this accident, speed at impact in excess of 300 kts (estimated by one guy at 360) and wreckage pieces about the same size as the small ones published in today's report.

When I went to the accident site the following morning and saw the small pieces lying around in the wheat field, I assumed they had already hauled off the big ones. They said "no sir, that's all we found. That's why we told you on the phone last night that we couldn't confirm the tail number." Most of it was buried, the backhoe dug a hole next to the engines so we could see the depth to which they penetrated, which was just over 10' into frozen ground.

JMac and Richard Collins went out to FSI's sim in Wichita (where Bruce Landsberg worked at the time and helped set up the experiments) to see if they could duplicate the crash, and wrote an article about it in the magazine. Bottom line is that if you ever find yourself in a lateral upset in a twin Cessna, pull power to idle, drop approach flaps and gear and hope like hell you didn't wait too long. You may lose some gear doors and bend some metal, but if things work just right you may live to tell about it.

I can't say whether that advice holds true for other twins, or even slick singles, but it might be worth knowing if the cheese gets binding some dark cold night.


Plane lost 6800' in 60 seconds. Ice?
 
He just bought this 2006 Meridian about 4 months ago after his 2001 Meridian was damaged during recovery from severe turbulence. He was a great guy and talked about his grandson a lot.

It gets really old knowing many of the people who have died in aircraft. Maybe it's natures way of saying I've been in this area for too long.
 
I saw this crash right after it happened. I was told that the pilot was asked to do S-Turns on the ILS for spacing! I have been waiting for the final NTSB report to read what happened. This accident made me real sad!
 
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