Pilots of America Member Map *

Folks, I cannot see well enough to update you on our map. As soon as I have some minor laser work, I'll do February, March and April. Meantime, if you want your location on the map, feel free to use the link in my previous messages.
- Aunt Peggy
 
Beautiful April! Are you enjoying spring?

I know you are waiting to learn about the Pilots of America map. Here it is: https://www.zeemaps.com/map?group=451754
We had two new entries in February:
  • Jacoflyer: San Marcos, Texas 78666
  • Jixsta: Vacaville, California
We had six new entries in March:
  • Cowman: Quincy, Illinois 62305
  • Banjo33: Meridian, Mississippi 39307
  • Mack: Tacoma, Washington
  • ironnerd: Smyrna, Georgia
  • Don M. Jones: Tyler, Texas
  • Hawk25U: Dover, New Hampshire
We had eight new entries in April (so far):
  • Mitchell: Oro Valley, AZ
  • Terry Fulwider: Horton, AL 35980
  • Missa: Hughesville, PA 17737
  • Ronbonjovi: Clemson, SC
  • Dav8or: Byron, CA 94514
  • Mike Davisson: Edgewood, NM 87015
  • Skippers: Livingston, MT 59047
  • Bulldog573: Columbia, MO
If you want to be on the map and get your name/id listed here, click on the above link, click Additions and select Add Marker - Simple.
Fill out the form (name, location and a little message "Hello, everybody, here I am.") and Submit.

The more people fill it out, the better view of our people we'll get!
 
I thought cool, I'll add my name...then got excited because oh look, there's someone who lives in my area, right about where my house is, and oh, it's me. Sigh.

Eman, do they know you live that close to an elementary school?
 
I know you are waiting to learn about the Pilots of America map. Here it is: https://www.zeemaps.com/map?group=451754

We had 11 entries added in April:
  • Mitchell: Oro Valley, AZ
  • Terry Fulwider: Horton, AL 35980
  • Missa: Hughesville, PA 17737
  • Ronbonjovi: Clemson, SC
  • Dav8or: Byron, CA 94514
  • Mike Davisson: Edgewood, NM 87015
  • Skippers: Livingston, MT 59047
  • Bulldog573: Columbia, MO
  • Hang 4: Alpharetta, GA
  • Flocker: Chamblee, GA
  • SoIlBoy: Johnston City, IL 62951
Nobody entered in May or June.

If you want to be on the map and get your name/id listed here, click on the above link, click Additions and select Add Marker - Simple.
Fill out the form (name, location and a little message "Hello, everybody, here I am.") and Submit.

The more people fill it out, the better view of our people we'll get!
 
There's two in the middle of the ocean. Are these pilots based on oil rigs?
 
Well, guys, Zee Maps has a paywall after 100 visits. Since I don't want to pay them $20/month for the privilege of looking at the map, I guess we'll have to find another way to keep track of each other.
It's been fun.
 
It’s cool that you did this. Does someone know of another option we can use?
 
we could all email them and tell them they su ck. too much effort went into it to start something new. bummer! anyways, maybe google maps?
 
AuntPeggy said:
Well, guys, Zee Maps has a paywall after 100 visits. Since I don't want to pay them $20/month for the privilege of looking at the map, I guess we'll have to find another way to keep track of each other.
It's been fun.
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The zeemap account is still tied to my account even though I gave you admin privileges. I just now subscribed to their "Professional" service offering so the map is again available.
I have no problem footing the $19.95/month charge for now (discount if purchasing a year service at $199.95/year.) I had already paid something like $49.95 way back when to make the map forever ad-free.

Everyone's data is there and appears to be downloadable as a CSV file - so if there are PoA members who can find a suitable free or lower cost option and are also willing to look into what it would take to transfer the data, that would be appreciated. Things like the member map only happen when someone seizes the initiative to make it happen and spends some effort and/or money. I do not frequent PoA that much anymore, so those who do may wish to step up to the plate.
 
Jim Logajan said:
Everyone's data is there and appears to be downloadable as a CSV file - so if there are PoA members who can find a suitable free or lower cost option and are also willing to look into what it would take to transfer the data, that would be appreciated.
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I took a quick look at the CSV. The Location column looks like a proprietary 'Location Code.' E.g.: 557b53bcd367742eb9ff09882720557f

Not sure that's readily transplantable. I'm no expert but I've dinked with a lot of location formats. Don't know anything like that.
*Googles*
Found this: https://www.zeemaps.com/blog/geocoded-latitude-longitude-in-csv/ You need an "Enterprise Plan" to export lat/lon. *rolls eyes*
 
Oblivion said:
I took a quick look at the CSV. The Location column looks like a proprietary 'Location Code.' E.g.: 557b53bcd367742eb9ff09882720557f

Not sure that's readily transplantable. I'm no expert but I've dinked with a lot of location formats. Don't know anything like that.
*Googles*
Found this: https://www.zeemaps.com/blog/geocoded-latitude-longitude-in-csv/ You need an "Enterprise Plan" to export lat/lon. *rolls eyes*
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Since Zeemaps uses Google maps, my search yielded this on the Google location code: https://stackoverflow.com/questions/44843934/get-lat-lon-from-google-maps-url-ftid-hex
So I appended the location code for my Zeemap entry (557b53bcd367742eb9ff09882720557f) to the URL https://google.com/maps?cid=0x and after Google maps had rendered the map location it changed the URL to https://www.google.com/maps/@43.9435604,-122.8669251,15z - where it has helpfully provided the latitude and longitude in the URL. I suppose one could automate that process to do the conversion (or manually do it for the 595+ entries.) Or I could just pay for one month of the "Enterprise Plan" for an extra $80 - more than enough time to get a data snapshot for moving the data elsewhere. I'd be happy to shell out that amount IF there is an "elsewhere" to port the map data. No point doing that until an alternative, if any, is arranged. As I said, someone else who is more involved with PoA would need to do this. Aunt Peggy was nice enough to manage the map after I had started it, so someone should look into a replacement.
 
AuntPeggy said:
Well, guys, Zee Maps has a paywall after 100 visits. Since I don't want to pay them $20/month for the privilege of looking at the map, I guess we'll have to find another way to keep track of each other.
It's been fun.
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That really blows. Is there some way to transfer the data from zeemaps and put it into a new hosting site? Would hate to lose all of the entries, especially now that it took so long to get what we have.
 
Thank you Jim. I appreciate you starting the map and paying for the account.

It ought to be pretty easy for me to write a quick script to upload the list to Google Maps from the csv. Apparently I can create a Google map and then open it to anyone who knows the link to the map. Basically, that is how Zeemaps worked except that nobody except you and I could delete. Using Google the way I just mentioned opens the map to easier vandalism.

EDIT: Oops, just saw the note that the location isn't getting translated.

It's too late for me to look into it further today, but tomorrow is a holiday...
 
AuntPeggy said:
Thank you Jim. I appreciate you starting the map and paying for the account.

It ought to be pretty easy for me to write a quick script to upload the list to Google Maps from the csv. Apparently I can create a Google map and then open it to anyone who knows the link to the map. Basically, that is how Zeemaps worked except that nobody except you and I could delete. Using Google the way I just mentioned opens the map to easier vandalism.

EDIT: Oops, just saw the note that the location isn't getting translated.

It's too late for me to look into it further today, but tomorrow is a holiday...
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Vastly simpler for me to just invest the $80 so the location code column downloads in a lat/long format than for people to dink around trying to reverse-engineer Zeemap's changes to the Google location code. Easy to spend many hours on such a thing and accomplish nothing.

One other option is to simply stay with Zeemaps and crowd-fund the cost of keeping it up. $200/year spread over even just 10 people is $20/year. Spread over 100+ makes for trivial cost per person. Internet services are never "free" - there is always a cost to be paid, even if unseen.
 
No one appears to have stepped forward in the last 3 weeks to locate an alternative to zeemap.
I am willing to upgrade to zeemap's Enterprise plan for the month of October to allow anyone here to download the database with plain-text lat/long coordinates. That would preserve the data till an alternative is located. I just need to see some indication that anyone is actually interested in doing something with the data.
October will be the last month I will pay for access to the map.
 
If you want to spring for the download, I'll commit to at least posting the data as is as a Google spreadsheet, maybe a waypoint file, and who knows what else. I know enough scripting and web coding to be able to cobble up something. I won't commit to building a front-end to add new anytime soon, but my down the road, and if people would want to send me coordinates or whatever, I could manually add them. If I ever go away from the forums, I'd be happy two hand this off to whoever else wants to maintain it.

If somebody wants to take charge of this beyond my abilities, feel free. If people think we should just kiss the data away to the ether, I'm okay with that too. I'm a relatively new guy here, and I'm not nostalgic for this map hey, but I willing to help.

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Oblivion said:
If you want to spring for the download, I'll commit to at least posting the data as is as a Google spreadsheet, maybe a waypoint file, and who knows what else. I know enough scripting and web coding to be able to cobble up something. I won't commit to building a front-end to add new anytime soon, but my down the road, and if people would want to send me coordinates or whatever, I could manually add them. If I ever go away from the forums, I'd be happy two hand this off to whoever else wants to maintain it.

If somebody wants to take charge of this beyond my abilities, feel free. If people think we should just kiss the data away to the ether, I'm okay with that too. I'm a relatively new guy here, and I'm not nostalgic for this map hey, but I willing to help.

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Belated thanks - I've been traveling and occupied by a family emergency and did not see your response. I'll pay the money for the download if you are willing to try to do something with the data. I've been hesitant, though, because PoA has become the forum that it was intended to replace or supplement.

I'll post in a couple days with further information on the map database.
 
Eleven more pilots on the Pilots of America map in September. Here it is: https://www.zeemaps.com/map?group=451754

  1. A1Topgun: Dexter, Maine 04930
  2. Stan Cooper: Oakland, California
  3. Richard: DeLand, Florida
  4. Alon Smolarski: Binyamina-Giv'at Ada, Haifa District
  5. charheep: Geneva, Illinois
  6. KMayner: Redland, Oregon 97045
  7. MountainDude: Los Alamos, New Mexico 87544
  8. Mooney Fan: Indian Mound, Tennessee 37079
  9. Skyrys62: Owensboro, Kentucky 42303
  10. nj-pilot: Fairfield, New Jersey 07004
  11. Richard Pottorff: Sunnyvale, California
 
Today I upgraded to Zeemaps Enterprise. Once I did that the latitude and longitude columns appeared in the CSV file in place of the location code column. However, it looks like that substitution only appears in the CSV file downloaded by the account owner, not anyone else.

So I've uploaded a zip file containing a CSV file to this forum (should appear attached to this post - Xenforo didn't allow direct upload of the CSV, but does allow zip) that is up-to-date at the time of this post. It contains latitude/longitude columns for all members who have created pins. The only other info missing would be images; someone may wish to write a script to go through the "Photo URL" column and download the images. Near the end of October I will upload one last CSV snap-shot to this forum thread and then close the Zeemaps account.
 

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Grabbed the file. Family vacation coming up next week, so time is limited, but I'll tinker when able. I agree, grabbing the photos from the URL field should be fairly trivial. I'll let you know what's what when able. Thanks for the effort/expense.
 
Current status, I have the csv and have the scraped 36 images therein. So at this point ZeeMaps could go away and I believe we have the data they have (all of the images were on their amazonaws account). I may get to tinker with re-presenting the data this weekend, but I need to get back to paycheck work right now. If anyone's interested, here's a read-only link to what I've got: https://www.dropbox.com/sh/pyergzory3qi6rz/AAAzUKHElmPhte5l0mcapSxja?dl=0

Edit: That will NOT be the final resting place of the data, just sharing for now in case anyone else wants to poke at this and doesn't want to duplicate effort of grabbing stuff.
 
Attached to this post is the last snapshot of the Zeemap database entries that I intend to make. I am allowing the paid subscription to zeemaps to terminate. It may last as long another 30 days - I'm not sure because zeemaps billing cycle is unclear.
 

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Oblivion said:
Current status, I have the csv and have the scraped 36 images therein. So at this point ZeeMaps could go away and I believe we have the data they have (all of the images were on their amazonaws account). I may get to tinker with re-presenting the data this weekend, but I need to get back to paycheck work right now. If anyone's interested, here's a read-only link to what I've got: https://www.dropbox.com/sh/pyergzory3qi6rz/AAAzUKHElmPhte5l0mcapSxja?dl=0

Edit: That will NOT be the final resting place of the data, just sharing for now in case anyone else wants to poke at this and doesn't want to duplicate effort of grabbing stuff.
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is there a new map? I don't recall if there was another thread discussing the migration to another free source. I don't wanna know where people are, I'm just lost and need a map (my magenta line isn't working).
 
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