Passed IFR Written

Bravo!! The Instrument rating is the toughest one you'll do, and probably the most satisfying, too, from an intellectual standpoint.
 
Congrats! You got the hard part done, now go do the fun stuff!
 
THe test is full of BS, as is true with most FAA stuff.

Get comfy with shooting approaches and you'll be fine.

Remember, a successful approach to mins, solo, in IMc, has NOTHING to do with your written score.

Keep at it, sister!!!!
 
Congrats--that is the worst part of the instrument rating.
 
Good job!

Now get in the air and do the fun part. ;)
 
Get flying soon!!!

I passed the test with full intensions of starting the flight training. Got very busy with my business and took 23 months to take the check ride. WRONG WAY TO DO IT!! I ended up doing fine on the oral and check-ride but had to study and study to be ready for the oral. The good thing is I know all the material well.

Congrats and get flying while your mind is still fresh with it.
 
Congratulations!

There should be a notice that pops up when you take the Instrument test: "This is the EXACT same test you will take for the CFII -- go ahead and take it twice and get it knocked out!"
 
dmccormack said:
Congratulations!

There should be a notice that pops up when you take the Instrument test: "This is the EXACT same test you will take for the CFII -- go ahead and take it twice and get it knocked out!"
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And CGI-I!
 
dmccormack said:
Congratulations!

There should be a notice that pops up when you take the Instrument test: "This is the EXACT same test you will take for the CFII -- go ahead and take it twice and get it knocked out!"
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I wish someone had told me this back then, I would have signed up for the test three times and knocked it out.
 
Just passed mine today. It was pretty difficult. I was really happy that I only got 6 wrong. Now I've just got to get the flying out of the way.
 
Congratulations, Vikki! :D

I'm still studying for mine. I bought the King DVDs back in '05 and was close to 90% on my practice exams back then, but couldn't find a CFII who our insurance would allow to teach in the airplane I was flying back then. Then the airplane was sold, and I sort of gave up for a while. I bought ASA PrepWare this year, and rewatched the DVDs, and I'm finding that the old Kings are really not adequate for the current test. They seem to have revamped the test bank since then and made some of the questions harder and trickier. Or maybe I'm just getting older. :dunno:

My current CFII has a policy that if you don't score at least 90% on the written, you have to take it over again...
 
Rotor&Wing said:
You need to find a new CFII.
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No, I need to score at least 90% on the written. :yesnod:

I don't think it's such a terrible policy. His rationale is that the instrument oral can take a very long time if your written shows lots of deficient areas, and by then, you'll probably be too exhausted to fly well.

I can see his side of it, he wants his students to have the best shot at passing the checkride. If I bust, it reflects poorly on him.
 
azure said:
No, I need to score at least 90% on the written. :yesnod:

I don't think it's such a terrible policy. His rationale is that the instrument oral can take a very long time if your written shows lots of deficient areas, and by then, you'll probably be too exhausted to fly well.

I can see his side of it, he wants his students to have the best shot at passing the checkride. If I bust, it reflects poorly on him.
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So your instructer makes you pay to retake the FAA written after you've already passed it? Is he / she paying for it? According to the FAA you have passed. If your instructer wants you to be "perfect" then keep taking the practice tests and polish up. I agree that if your CFII makes you retake the actual FAA test then you need to get a new CFII.
 
azure said:
No, I need to score at least 90% on the written. :yesnod:

I don't think it's such a terrible policy. His rationale is that the instrument oral can take a very long time if your written shows lots of deficient areas, and by then, you'll probably be too exhausted to fly well.

I can see his side of it, he wants his students to have the best shot at passing the checkride. If I bust, it reflects poorly on him.
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Hmmm....

So if you get an 86%, then what? :frown2:

Seriously -- not everyone is a good test taker. I can understand a bit of extra motivation for the lackadaisical types, but you don't seem to fit that category.

Take the test, do your best, review whatever you miss, and prep for the oral and practical. You're going to have to prepare for the oral anyway -- the written is just another hoop to jump through on the way.

Quite frankly less than half the information tested on IR Written is applicable to real-world IFR flying.
 
azure said:
My current CFII has a policy that if you don't score at least 90% on the written, you have to take it over again...
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I'm sorry - I've let the other things you've said about your CFII go -- but that is absolutely ridiculous. Unbelievable.

The oral difference between a 85% and a 92%? Most likely nothing. The length of the oral is more controlled by you during the oral than the written test score being a few percent different.

The tests are designed by the FAA in a way that 75% is passing. Passing is all that matters. There is plenty of crap on the instrument written that won't apply to you whatsoever. You'd be better off spending that time learning things from a good CFII that will matter to you. Investing extra time to ensure a 90% over a 85% is a waste.
 
Congratulations Vikki!!!

I agree with the others Liz..and you know that I am right behind you! You pass the written, the score counts, if you keep studying and reviewing in preparation for the oral, what difference is it to your CFII whether they are practice exams or another formal (read having to pay for) FAA written?
Perhaps a better prep would be for your CFII to take you through a simulated oral session acting as if he/she was the examiner with you as the applicant.
 
azure said:
No, I need to score at least 90% on the written. :yesnod:

I don't think it's such a terrible policy. His rationale is that the instrument oral can take a very long time if your written shows lots of deficient areas, and by then, you'll probably be too exhausted to fly well.

I can see his side of it, he wants his students to have the best shot at passing the checkride. If I bust, it reflects poorly on him.
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From this post to the other things you have posted about his "techniques" I would get away from this instructor and find someone else.
 
I'm with the others, Liz. Don't like to insult techniques of others, but you need a new CFII. I'm sure you'll be a good instrument pilot, but it will be in spite of him rather than because of.
 
Ted DuPuis said:
I'm with the others, Liz. Don't like to insult techniques of others, but you need a new CFII. I'm sure you'll be a good instrument pilot, but it will be in spite of him rather than because of.
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Thanks for the input everyone. Sounds like it's unanimous. :frown3:

I'll wait until after I take the written to decide. If I pass with <90% I'll ask him if he'll pay for me to retake the written and strongly consider finishing up with someone else. Hopefully I'll ace it, or nearly (hate to jinx myself by saying that though).

I really hate to switch instructors at this late date. I did my long IFR XC last Tuesday and am very close now.

Vikki, sorry I seem to have 7500'd your thread... :frown3:
 
azure said:
I really hate to switch instructors at this late date. I did my long IFR XC last Tuesday and am very close now.
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I think the 90 or better requirement is excessive, but switching horses in mid-stream sounds excessive too -- finish up, get the practical done, and then continue learning.

I think you can learn as much from poor teachers or good teachers with poor technique if you are able to turn the learning to your advantage. I'm sure you will, so don't be hasty.
 
What Dan said. If you're almost done, go pass the ride and then do any follow-up training with others.

But if you bust the checkride while flying the way he taught you, then you might want to consider getting a new CFII for the final polish if there is one that's convenient.
 
azure said:
Thanks for the input everyone. Sounds like it's unanimous. :frown3:

I'll wait until after I take the written to decide. If I pass with <90% I'll ask him if he'll pay for me to retake the written and strongly consider finishing up with someone else. Hopefully I'll ace it, or nearly (hate to jinx myself by saying that though).

I really hate to switch instructors at this late date. I did my long IFR XC last Tuesday and am very close now.
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If you pass the IFR written with less than a 90% and he makes you retake the thing, then I would switch at that point. If you're very close to your sign-off, then it might make sense to just bite the bullet and finish up because switching late in the game could extend the process and cost you more money and time.

If you finish up with your current instructor, I'd suggest that you spend some time with another CFII or just a good, proficient instrument pilot doing a few flights to get someone else's perspective. I bet you that person will say that you're doing great. Getting someone else's perspective is always helpful, and there are plenty of people in your area who I'm sure would be willing to fly with you. For that matter I'd be glad to stop sometime when I'm flying over Detroit and fly with you (happens pretty frequently). Disclaimer: I'm not a CFII, just someone who starts almost every conversation with ground as "Ground, Aztec 6927Y IFR to..."

Vikki, sorry I seem to have 7500'd your thread... :frown3:
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Such things happen, don't worry about it. :)
 
Ted DuPuis said:
If you finish up with your current instructor, I'd suggest that you spend some time with another CFII or just a good, proficient instrument pilot doing a few flights to get someone else's perspective. I bet you that person will say that you're doing great. Getting someone else's perspective is always helpful, and there are plenty of people in your area who I'm sure would be willing to fly with you. For that matter I'd be glad to stop sometime when I'm flying over Detroit and fly with you (happens pretty frequently). Disclaimer: I'm not a CFII, just someone who starts almost every conversation with ground as "Ground, Aztec 6927Y IFR to..."
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I lost track of this thread somewhere. Thanks Ted, that would be great. I haven't flown with any pilots other than my instructor in ages and would really like to get an independent and objective opinion of my skills sometime. 'Twould be nice for that opinion to come from someone other than the DPE. :D

Don't know if the wx will be flyable again before Spring, though. 3-6 inches of snow is on the way for today and tomorrow, then even colder for the weekend. What the heck am I doing in this state, again? :rolleyes:
 
azure said:
I lost track of this thread somewhere. Thanks Ted, that would be great. I haven't flown with any pilots other than my instructor in ages and would really like to get an independent and objective opinion of my skills sometime. 'Twould be nice for that opinion to come from someone other than the DPE. :D
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Getting views from other pilots and instructors who you respect is always valuable, at least it is for me. That's part of why I try to fly with people whose experience and opinions I respect as often as I can.

Don't know if the wx will be flyable again before Spring, though. 3-6 inches of snow is on the way for today and tomorrow, then even colder for the weekend. What the heck am I doing in this state, again? :rolleyes:
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I often wonder the same thing. ;)

If you want I'll keep you posted when I'm flying over your area, and if we can find a time when schedules and wx look like they'll cooperate, we can go flying for a bit. :)
 
This reminds me, I need to take this test again before the end of the summer or so.
 
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