ScottM
Taxi to Parking
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iBazinga!
On Sunday I was flying east from 3CK to the lake front. I had dialed the OBK VOR in and was staying to the left side of the 090 radial. This has well north of PWK airspace and under the Class B shelf. I opted for an altitude of 2200MSL until I got to the lake front. The ILS 16 into PWK has aircraft staying above 2300 until just inside the class D (CUTEY) of PWK. This keeps me away from their traffic and in a good spot to have room to maneuver if needed. But it is a busy area so I was looking around. FF is barely an option from C90 and I gave up asking long ago. I will monitor C90 on 120.55 to at least help my understand who is where and what they are doing
As we approached the area where aircraft coming into runway 16 would be I started looking left. I was not disappointed, there coming at me was a business jet. He was maybe 3 to 5 miles away and closing fast at my altitude, 2200MSL. He saw me first, probably TCAS, and started a climbing left turn away. I had right of way and he was already taking action so I help course. As he is turning and climbing C90 comes on to give him a heads up.
He is too long for the approach and was probably given the visual and got below the glide slope but what he did next made mad. He responds tot he controller and say "We just saw him, I think he is in Palwaukee's airspace"
Butthead! I was well outside of of PWK's airspace. Don't cover your lack of piloting skills on this approach and your screw up by blaming anyone else. Suck it up, you were too low for the ILS and in class E airspace where I had every right to be too. This was not even a close call, so to go blaming others for your mistakes shows a dramatic lack of maturity for one trusted with so much equipment and lives. Did you take note of ATC response to you? They knew I was not anywhere near PWK's airspace and that you were just whining. That is why they took no further action and told you to go around. Next time pay attention to flying the aircraft and less on who you can blame for your own shortcomings.
Ok I feel better, I needed that!!
As we approached the area where aircraft coming into runway 16 would be I started looking left. I was not disappointed, there coming at me was a business jet. He was maybe 3 to 5 miles away and closing fast at my altitude, 2200MSL. He saw me first, probably TCAS, and started a climbing left turn away. I had right of way and he was already taking action so I help course. As he is turning and climbing C90 comes on to give him a heads up.
He is too long for the approach and was probably given the visual and got below the glide slope but what he did next made mad. He responds tot he controller and say "We just saw him, I think he is in Palwaukee's airspace"
Butthead! I was well outside of of PWK's airspace. Don't cover your lack of piloting skills on this approach and your screw up by blaming anyone else. Suck it up, you were too low for the ILS and in class E airspace where I had every right to be too. This was not even a close call, so to go blaming others for your mistakes shows a dramatic lack of maturity for one trusted with so much equipment and lives. Did you take note of ATC response to you? They knew I was not anywhere near PWK's airspace and that you were just whining. That is why they took no further action and told you to go around. Next time pay attention to flying the aircraft and less on who you can blame for your own shortcomings.
Ok I feel better, I needed that!!
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