Okay, call me sexist, rascist, homophobe, xenophobe........

Primary has the name Mary in it.


It should be called the Main Unit dammit

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David Megginson said:
Disappearing fast. GitHub now defaults to "main" rather than "master" for the principal code branch, for example.

Language is always changing, and 'tis folly to try to hold it back, dost thou not agree?
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because all changes are for the better, right?
 
Kenny Phillips said:
My realtor says it was changed because "Master" denotes the powerful male of the household, so it was essentially sexist, not racist.
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Yet it's mostly women who care about that feature in a home.
 
DaleB said:
None of my business, partner.
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In my business, when I go to work I have a flying partner. When I go to training I have a sim partner. Some of my flying/sim partners share ownership in an airplane so may talk about their airplane partner(s). Most have life partners who are usually, but not always, of the opposite sex. Most, but not all, of those life partners are spouses. I frequently fly with those who have a side businesses and may have business partners. With long hours spent together in the airplane, discussions often go in directions which may include references to all of those different kinds of partners.

If my flying partner mentions his "partner" in conversation it can mean very different things based on to which kind of partner he is referring. Using "Partner" is fine, as long as the distinction doesn't matter to the conversation. When it does, something else is needed to clarify. The clarification can be a modifier, i.e. "sim partner", or the context in which it is used.

Replacing more specific terms with a more generic term does not improve the effectiveness of the communication.

RyanB said:
In a society with people who consistently take offense to everything, it’s unlikely the right set of terms will ever be agreed upon.
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Exactly; and, why do they think that controlling what everyone says will actually solve any of our problems? Too much like 1984's Newspeak and Thought-crimes for my taste.
 
Larry in TN said:
In my business, when I go to work I have a flying partner. When I go to training I have a sim partner. Some of my flying/sim partners share ownership in an airplane so may talk about their airplane partner(s). Most have life partners who are usually, but not always, of the opposite sex. Most, but not all, of those life partners are spouses. I frequently fly with those who have a side businesses and may have business partners. With long hours spent together in the airplane, discussions often go in directions which may include references to all of those different kinds of partners.

If my flying partner mentions his "partner" in conversation it can mean very different things based on to which kind of partner he is referring. Using "Partner" is fine, as long as the distinction doesn't matter to the conversation. When it does, something else is needed to clarify. The clarification can be a modifier, i.e. "sim partner", or the context in which it is used.

Replacing more specific terms with a more generic term does not improve the effectiveness of the communication.
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Precisely. I have a wife, some friends (partners) with whom I share ownership of an airplane, and occasionally play cards with my wife's family and have various card partners. These people are most assuredly not interchangeable, and the terms I use for them are not either.
 
Another term for a romantic partner is “mate”. But in the UK, that could be just your buddy.
 
EdFred said:
Well biological men on average are stronger than biological women, sooooo..........
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Yeah, I think he may have meant social power. Which I will not comment upon, as I've had my ban.
 
Shawn said:
Ready for the newest one...you can no longer call it a "Master Suite" or "Master Bedroom" due to the slavery connotations...It has now been deemed "Primary Bedroom" to be politically correct and not be offensive...
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So I guess they have done away with "master" and "slave" when talking about prop sync; which is how I learned it way back when.
 
EdFred said:
Well biological men on average are stronger than biological women, sooooo..........
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You're gonna get cancelled if you keep pointing out the truth ...

From the article:

Over the past few years, athletes, coaches and parents have been watching in disbelief as girls are being replaced on the winner’s podium by boys who identify as girls at all levels of competition. It’s what prompted Idaho to enact a law to protect female athletes from having their dreams of success on the field taken from them by a male competitor, and it’s what prompted the U.S. Department of Education’s Office for Civil Rights to conclude that my home state, Connecticut, is in violation of federal law.
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Link: https://www.usatoday.com/story/opin...ng-girls-chance-win-sports-column/4856486002/

IBTL
 
Why are there not more women pilots or members on POA ? Oh yeah....
 
Palmpilot said:
They're going to love it when they find out about master and slave hard drives! (Or do those exist anymore?)
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Uh, not for about 20 years or so now. Anyone in their 30's or younger would know only about hosts and devices.
 
asicer said:
Uh, not for about 20 years or so now. Anyone in their 30's or younger would know only about hosts and devices.
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Oh. I didn't know that because I left the corporate world about 23 years ago.
 
David Megginson said:
I think that would apply both to the people promoting language change and to the people complaining about it. But you're right that most of us just shrug and adjust to change as it comes.
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For myself, I disagree with the “adjust to change”…I don’t care to the point that I don’t adjust. As an example, I have a job where several times a day, I ask doctors and nurses for a patient’s race. I find the reactions to the question, and the responses, hilarious. Why is that such a taboo question for so many? Why is it so hard to give an answer? Some even refuse to answer, and get all offended. Really? So you’re offended that I’m asking a physical description of a person? Funnier yet is that I could skip the question and check the box “unknown” on every one, but like I said, I find it amusing and I don’t adjust..,
 
You know, skimming through all of this stuff, I think I may have part of the root cause...and I don't mean the folks here, I mean the young ones running around pointing to everyone's feelings being hurt.
1 - Way too many people with liberal arts degrees, some of which were publicly funded. No offense to those with said degree, that managed to find a job anyway. and
2 - Way too many young people with too much time on their hands.
 
Albany Tom said:
2 - Way too many young people with too much time on their hands.
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That’s the big one right there, “too much time on your hands”…first world problems. That’s why I actually find comfort in an argument like this: when you can argue about truly trivial crap like pronoun usage, it means life is good. No one from a country where people are starving, or where citizens are victims of true atrocities, are arguing over pronouns.
 
Albany Tom said:
Way too many young people with too much time on their hands.
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I believe that’s a big part of it. I’m also quite confident that social media hasn’t helped the situation. Occasionally I’ll check my Twitter account and see what’s ‘Trending’. It’s usually some kind of social issue and the discussion is always very one sided. They conveniently silence those who have a contrarian viewpoint so it makes the feed appear as though everyone is in agreement. :rolleyes:
 
tawood said:
That’s the big one right there, “too much time on your hands”…first world problems. That’s why I actually find comfort in an argument like this: when you can argue about truly trivial crap like pronoun usage, it means life is good. No one from a country where people are starving, or where citizens are victims of true atrocities, are arguing over pronouns.
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No, but if we devote enough time to arguing over pronouns I’m sure we’ll work our way back to the other soon enough.
 
RyanB said:
It absolutely does exist. Take off your rose colored glasses. I’ve lost count of the various television personalities and such that have either been canceled or silenced because their political opinions don’t align with that of the mainstream.
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Define mainstream. What yer talkin about is $$$. Does the ‘stream’ that watches this show and buy the products that our advertisers pay to advertise……
 
tawood said:
For myself, I disagree with the “adjust to change”…I don’t care to the point that I don’t adjust. As an example, I have a job where several times a day, I ask doctors and nurses for a patient’s race. I find the reactions to the question, and the responses, hilarious. Why is that such a taboo question for so many? Why is it so hard to give an answer? Some even refuse to answer, and get all offended.
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I have a family member that was a paramedic training officer for many years. He noted that in certain situations for emergency treatment the biological sex of the person needed to be known regardless of what they may have preferred or thought themselves to be.

If in doubt he said it was like when puppies are born ... taking a quick look at the plumbing would tell you all you needed to know (that may no longer be true). Of course with most humans that is considered verboten.

We agree on the "adjust to change" thingy. If you don't like my style ... go away 'cause I'm a freeborn man!

 
Bob Noel said:
because all changes are for the better, right?
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Nope -- language change just happens, like genetic mutation. English isn't better than proto-Germanic, for example, and French isn't better than Latin; they're just where we ended up.
 
RyanB said:
It absolutely does exist. Take off your rose colored glasses. I’ve lost count of the various television personalities and such that have either been canceled or silenced because their political opinions don’t align with that of the mainstream.
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Celebrities don't have a constitutional right to stay rich and famous forever. If they annoy or bore enough of their audience, they'll get dumped for someone the audience likes better. That's just the fickleness of fame, not cancel culture.
 
David Megginson said:
Celebrities don't have a constitutional right to stay rich and famous forever. If they annoy or bore enough of their audience, they'll get dumped for someone the audience likes better. That's just the fickleness of fame, not cancel culture.
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sic transit gloria mundi
 
David Megginson said:
Celebrities don't have a constitutional right to stay rich and famous forever. If they annoy or bore enough of their audience, they'll get dumped for someone the audience likes better. That's just the fickleness of fame, not cancel culture.
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Absolutely not what happens/happened and you know it. That or you really don't know your ass from a hole in the ground, and based on what youve posted in this thread alone, I'm not entirely sure which one is the case.
 
David Megginson said:
Celebrities don't have a constitutional right to stay rich and famous forever. If they annoy or bore enough of their audience, they'll get dumped for someone the audience likes better. That's just the fickleness of fame, not cancel culture.
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Ludicrous. It’s time to wake up and smell the roses, David. I’m not sure if you’re intentionally trying to protect a certain subset of individuals or if you just choose to ignore reality and pretend this stuff doesn’t happen, but what you’ve proposed here is certainly not the case.
 
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