Obese people beware!

Good!!! That mean us thinner people will get a discount?


:D
 
Wow is AC really running 360 hours behind the news cycle. This was all over the news last week and the program seemed more than fair.

If you are two fat to be in a seat and not be able to put the arm rest down they will first try to move you to a seat where you aren't sitting beside someone. No additional cost. BUT if the plane is full they are foing to move you to the next flight and make you pay whatever you paid for your seat again and give you two seats.
 
Ron Levy said:
You're buying a seat. If you want a bigger seat, you pay more. Sounds "fare" to me.
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That's pretty much how first class works. And free drinks and more food (well, maybe that's not a solution):nonod:. There are other perks too......
 

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I believe this is fair, Who LIKES sitting next to fat people on planes? (115 pounds here)
 
on a similar note, i always wished that my FBO would've sold airplane rides by the pound instead of by the seat when we had fly ins etc. would've made my life a lot easier.
 
GigG601XL said:
Wow is AC really running 360 hours behind the news cycle. This was all over the news last week and the program seemed more than fair.

If you are two fat to be in a seat and not be able to put the arm rest down they will first try to move you to a seat where you aren't sitting beside someone. No additional cost. BUT if the plane is full they are foing to move you to the next flight and make you pay whatever you paid for your seat again and give you two seats.
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What if there are no more seats in the tourist section but first class has an open seat that you'd fit in without spilling over?
 
gismo said:
What if there are no more seats in the tourist section but first class has an open seat that you'd fit in without spilling over?
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If I were sitting in coach and saw someone upgraded free to first class just because s/he couldn't fit in the seat s/he had purchased, I'd be pretty upset. The way I figure it, if you want or need two seats, you pay for two seats, and if you want or need first class, you pay for first class.
 
Ron Levy said:
If I were sitting in coach and saw someone upgraded free to first class just because s/he couldn't fit in the seat s/he had purchased, I'd be pretty upset. The way I figure it, if you want or need two seats, you pay for two seats, and if you want or need first class, you pay for first class.
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That's what I was thinking. It would be OK by me if they offered the fat pax to pay for a 1st class upgrade (assuming they fit up there) and stay on the flight. I suppose we'll start seeing "test chairs" at the gates to squish our fannies into before boarding like they have for overhead bag size checking.
 
An airline with a good marketing program would change a couple rows of seat to wider ones and reserve them for the obese and only charge a 1/3 more.
 
EppyGA said:
An airline with a good marketing program would change a couple rows of seat to wider ones and reserve them for the obese and only charge a 1/3 more.
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What if nobody wants to pay extra for those seats on a particular flight, but still want regular coach fare? Are you willing to eat the lost revenue by putting only two people in the space in which you could have put three?
 
I have no strong opinion, but I will say this: You're all being very judgmental of those with eating disorders....

Just sayin.
 
SkyHog said:
I have no strong opinion, but I will say this: You're all being very judgmental of those with eating disorders....

Just sayin.
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Maybe the airlines need to put a seat out next to the check in desk.

Just like the signs that say you must be "This Tall" to ride the rollercoaster, you must be "this wide" to sit in a single seat.

It's a thought....
 
SkyHog said:
I have no strong opinion, but I will say this: You're all being very judgmental of those with eating disorders....

Just sayin.
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To cure most "eating disorders", a little restraint with what is eaten would do wonders.

Just sayin.
 
Anthony said:
To cure most "eating disorders", a little restraint with what is eaten would do wonders.

Just sayin.
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AKA: hey pukebreath, stop puking!
or
Hey bonesy, eat something, you laze!
 
Anthony said:
To cure most "eating disorders", a little restraint with what is eaten would do wonders.

Just sayin.
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I admit I have ticked off a few fat people. It usually starts out like this.


Fat person = Hey, I am going in for stomach stapling surgery to help me reduce weight. Wish me luck....

Me= What you really need is elbow surgery, that way you can push your way back from the table before eating enough food for 10 people...

At about that time the verbal exchange starts.:yikes::nono::nonod:

As for the topic, everyone has the right to weigh what they want. My hair gets raised when their fat encroaches in my seat or their obese condition adds to my health insurance premium.. And have you noticed that they all seem to need those " scooters" now to get around. Talking about perpetuating an existing condition !!!!! Don't get me started. :smilewinkgrin:

Tailwinds guys and gals.
 
i dont really care so much if people are fat, and certainly why they are fat. but if they can't fit in one seat then i don't see why they shouldn't have to pay for 2.
 
SkyHog said:
I have no strong opinion, but I will say this: You're all being very judgmental of those with eating disorders....

Just sayin.
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No, we're being judgemental about how airlines handle those with eating disorders in light of reducing the suffering on those without eating disorders caused by those with said eating disorders who use up half of our seat as well. Should I have to share half of my already uncomfortably small seat?

One time I had seat "23E" and when I got to it, 23D and 23F were occupied by a couple who met in the middle. The stew gave me an upgrade to 1st class.

BTW, since when does a self inflicted disorder gain someone special status? If seats are 24" wide, and you're 40 " wide, you buy 2 seats, or ride in a cargo container.
 
ugh - It's not just the folks who ooze over the arm rests, either. It's the whole package - the narrow seats and need to make a buck.

I remember getting a window seat on an small jet or maybe a turpo-prop, so the fuselage had a really short radius and I had to tilt my head for clearance. The guy sitting next to me was a big guy - not fat - but big across the shoulders in a body-builder, or East German woman simmer, sort of way. I was really pinched between him and the side of the airplane. Fortunately, the flight was less than an hour.

Face it - we are cargo. If we can be shoehorned in so the airline can make a dollar, that's what'll happen. And since we (customers) typically go with the lowest bidder, we get what we pay for.

I'm glad there is getting to be some sort of relief. Other than the monetary penalty, I'd think it would be more comfortable seating for the 'person-of-size' as well.
 
Matthew said:
Face it - we are cargo. If we can be shoehorned in so the airline can make a dollar, that's what'll happen. And since we (customers) typically go with the lowest bidder, we get what we pay for.
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Yep, that's pretty much it. Wasn't it American that tried increasing the pitch of their seats, and when they tried upping fares to compensate for the loss of seats, people went elsewhere?


Trapper John
 
SkyHog said:
Again, do you say the same thing about bulemic/anorexic folk?
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Yes sir, you have a mental disorder, you fix it, or you deal with extra consequences regardless of what they may be. I don't want som bulemic purging her pretzels in my lap either.
 
Let's say I'm a kind-hearted soul who never intentionally offends anyone.

Give me your odds that whoever is filling both seats has something wrong with them that couldn't be cured with a set of handcuffs at the table. I don't think my job is to be their shrink or subsidize their travel costs.

SkyHog said:
I have no strong opinion, but I will say this: You're all being very judgmental of those with eating disorders....

Just sayin.
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I love watching the twists these threads take.

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It is not necessary to "bash" anyone here, and I do not believe it is anyone's intention to do so. The simple fact is that, if one is large enough that they cannot effectively fit in an airliner seat without impinging on the seat space of the person(s) next to them, they should take measures to remove that as a problem. Those measures could include, in the immediate term, purchasing a larger seat, or an extra seat, and may include (depending upon physiology) the measures necessary to lose some of that bonus size.

The obligation to accommodate your size in how you deal with life's challenges (and this includes purchasing a larger or additional seat) accompanies exceptional sizw, and you cannot delegate it to anyone else.
 
Ron Levy said:
If I were sitting in coach and saw someone upgraded free to first class just because s/he couldn't fit in the seat s/he had purchased, I'd be pretty upset. The way I figure it, if you want or need two seats, you pay for two seats, and if you want or need first class, you pay for first class.
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That individual needs to upgrade the ticket to a more expensive, larger seat.
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Not a free upgrade.
 
You ever notice that you don't see them driving sports cars? There's a reason for that too, but Porsche and others decided some time ago they would make it possible for people of a certain size to drive their cars. Others need not apply, lest their polyester britches will catch fire from the friction when they shift gears.

I don't see any disclosures or apologies footnoted on their marketing material.

SCCutler said:
I love watching the twists these threads take.

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It is not necessary to "bash" anyone here, and I do not believe it is anyone's intention to do so. The simple fact is that, if one is large enough that they cannot effectively fit in an airliner seat without impinging on the seat space of the person(s) next to them, they should take measures to remove that as a problem. Those measures could include, in the immediate term, purchasing a larger seat, or an extra seat, and may include (depending upon physiology) the measures necessary to lose some of that bonus size.

The obligation to accommodate your size in how you deal with life's challenges (and this includes purchasing a larger or additional seat) accompanies exceptional sizw, and you cannot delegate it to anyone else.
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Speaking as a fat person, in general I agree with the policy. However, airlines have made their seats smaller and smaller in an effort to get more and more seats into their planes. I think it has gone too far.

On another note, the tenor of this thread is becoming unnecessarily cruel.
 
Well, this goes to question, should the airlines be required where possible to provide 2 or 3 rows of coach cless seating, only with wider seats, 2 to a side rather than 3, where if your lateral measurement exceeds that of a regular seat, you have to buy one of those seats at 1.5 times the price or a regular seat since it's 1.5 seats worth of space. Rarely does a flight have move than 12 really obese people. I think this is the most fair way to settle this all around. Obese people don't particularly like being squeezed in a seat (and I damn well have pulled that armrest down!). The paying for two seats thing doesn't work because there isn't an empty damn seat on the plane. The airlines will continue to fill every seat assuming everyone is 175lbs, and I have yet to see on a booking form for a flight the question "Are you a lard ass? Click here". The only way is to mandated the airlines be equipped with fat people seats which they charge 150% on, which is less than the 200% of 2 seats. Now the rest of us don't have to suffocate under the press of flesh melding us into the structure of the aircraft. I was one taken pitty on and given a jumpseat since I have a pilots license and security credentials issued by TSA.
 
EppyGA said:
An airline with a good marketing program would change a couple rows of seat to wider ones and reserve them for the obese and only charge a 1/3 more.
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I like this idea I would be willing to pay a little more to have a wider seat but first class is overpriced. By the I do fit in the seats. Just would like some more room.

I stopped asking for exit row seats some time ago. One to many times sitting with two linebackers.

AuntPeggy said:
On another note, the tenor of this thread is becoming unnecessarily cruel
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I do agree let be nice.
 
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