NYC trip: Lessons Learned / Lessons Reinforced

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I learned a lot of things, and had a few things reinforced on this trip. Thought I would share. Forgive me if some of this is obvious; I hope it is helpful to some, though!

1) Learned: NexRad and Stormscope are great for keeping you out of storms, but they don't necessarily keep you out of turbulence and roller-coaster up and downdrafts.

2) Learned: Although your Class B airport never assigns you a SID or STAR, doesn't mean that another Class D airport might do it! (Confession: departing FRG under IFR, but in good VMC, I had all the plates out, but none of the SIDs. I politely asked the controller--who inserted the SID into an otherwise untouched route--to give it to me verbally. Luckily it simply amounted to flying runway heading until receiving vectors. Lesson learned.)

3) Reinforced: Give yourself breathing room, even under IFR. I planned to return Sunday night, but had the aircraft reserved until Monday evening, just in case. That allowed me to fly today (a nice day), instead of last night, during which I would have been flying along a frontal system. A literal "dark and stormy night," and my wife might have written her own "Never Again" story!

4) Reinforced: The G1000-equipped aircraft is highly desirable over a steam-gauge version. Believe me (and you can look this up in my past threads!), I was reluctant to do the transition. But I did it last summer, and I don't regret it. Four reasons: terrain, giant "AI," weather, and traffic. Used wisely, the G1000 lets you take trips you might not have taken without those tools--unless, of course, you have a lot in your traditional panel. (You won't have all that in a C172.)

5) Learned: New York controllers are great. I'd heard stories, but they were incredibly professional and what's more, polite! Maybe it is because I "grew up" in Class B airspace--I don't know--but I found the NYC controllers great!

A big thank-you to those of you who gave your advice for this trip! The biggest marker of success for me was how impressed my wife was with the utility and comfort of "private" flying!

PS, how do I attach a video to a post? My wife secretly filmed my landing at FRG, and it was actually OK!
 
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I am not IFR rated yet, so I can't comment on too much, but, I would definitely agree that the G1000 is an amazing piece of technology. I took a friend, also an IFR student, flying for the first time in a G1000, and after we landed, all he could say was "you're spoiled". I only did the transition to G1000, because I was changing rental locations, and the one I wanted only had G1000 equipped airplanes. not complaining! With that said though, I still want to fly both steam and G1000 to stay proficient in both, and I enjoy a challenge...

I'm not sure how to upload a video on the forum, but you could always create an account (channel?) on youtube (disable comments if you want?), and paste the youtube link.
 
Sounds like you had a good trip, Ben.

As far as attaching a video, depending on what file format the video is in, you can use the "attach files" feature under "additional options" below the box where you type your reply.
 
Great report. Were you flying the Toga?
 
With that said though, I still want to fly both steam and G1000 to stay proficient in both, and I enjoy a challenge...

I think it is good to get the rating on steam, minimal autopilot. Then make the transition to G1000 and integrated autopilot! :D
 
Sounds like you had a good trip, Ben.

As far as attaching a video, depending on what file format the video is in, you can use the "attach files" feature under "additional options" below the box where you type your reply.

Thanks!
 
My FBO had a great C172 with G1000 that I was flying.

Shame it was sold.

(It was actually sold the day before my checkride, so I did the ride in another regular six-pack aircraft).
 
4) Reinforced: The G1000-equipped aircraft is highly desirable over a steam-gauge version. Believe me (and you can look this up in my past threads!), I was reluctant to do the transition. But I did it last summer, and I don't regret it. Four reasons: terrain, giant "AI," weather, and traffic. Used wisely, the G1000 lets you take trips you might not have taken without those tools--unless, of course, you have a lot in your traditional panel. (You won't have all that in a C172.)
There is nothing that the G1000 has that would make a difference for me operationally versus the standard six pack with Garmin 430 aircraft I fly.

If I really want NEXRAD I can borrow it. It's nice to have but in the end doesn't make that big of a difference because I wouldn't get up close and personal with a XM downlink anyways.

Glad you enjoy the panel, I would too, if it didn't come at a substantial cost.
 
After a few years of flying G1000 and steam airplanes, I have to give the G1000 more "value" for uptime and maintainability. I've never had a G1000 failure except for a CO Guardian in the last two years, and in the same time have seen a TC, AI, and Vacuum pump fail in different steam gauge airplanes. I really like the Diamond with no vacuum pump at all.

Add in the engine monitoring, fuel flow, and other integrated features and you just have more goodness than a standard aircraft of the same make and model (most don't come with engine monitors beyond a single CHT/EGT).

I also like the BIG factor of the horizon in the G1000. So while, like Jesse, I'm comfortable flying IFR with a 6 pack and a 430, I'm happier with a G1000.
 
There is nothing that the G1000 has that would make a difference for me operationally versus the standard six pack with Garmin 430 aircraft I fly.

If I really want NEXRAD I can borrow it. It's nice to have but in the end doesn't make that big of a difference because I wouldn't get up close and personal with a XM downlink anyways.

Glad you enjoy the panel, I would too, if it didn't come at a substantial cost.

I have no clue what the difference in cost is as far as buying, but at least in the area I rent, there isnt much of a difference in rental prices.
 
Glad you enjoy the panel, I would too, if it didn't come at a substantial cost.

Amen to that! Luckily the rental rate is almost the same as the "traditional" panel aircraft.
 
There is nothing that the G1000 has that would make a difference for me operationally versus the standard six pack with Garmin 430 aircraft I fly.

If I really want NEXRAD I can borrow it. It's nice to have but in the end doesn't make that big of a difference because I wouldn't get up close and personal with a XM downlink anyways.

I was going to say the exact same thing. I like having on-board radar, NEXRAD, a storm-scope, don't get me wrong. However, I can still fly without any of those on questionable weather days. It's not a go/no-go decision factor for me. Not having it might impact some of my deviations, but not significantly.

Be cautious with use of NEXRAD. It has inherent delays in updating. Never forget that you always can use your EYEdar. It's free, and everyone with a valid medical has it. It can require some calibration, of course. :)
 
Not to quibble but it's really a matter of a TAC ( Technically Advanced Aircraft ) vs Non - TAC. I have a plane with a 6 pack but also a 530W with XM weather, a Stec55X and a JPI 830. I don't have traffic but do have everything else that the G1000 offers. Yes my horizon is only 3 inches across not 10. While I do understand that the vacuum pump is less reliable then the battery/alternator I do have redundancy for the case of a electrical failure. A significant advantage of building a TAC out of a older airplane is that you can do it over time part by part and not have to drop 40 or 50 k at once.
 
Not to quibble but it's really a matter of a TAC ( Technically Advanced Aircraft ) vs Non - TAC. I have a plane with a 6 pack but also a 530W with XM weather, a Stec55X and a JPI 830. I don't have traffic but do have everything else that the G1000 offers. Yes my horizon is only 3 inches across not 10. While I do understand that the vacuum pump is less reliable then the battery/alternator I do have redundancy for the case of a electrical failure. A significant advantage of building a TAC out of a older airplane is that you can do it over time part by part and not have to drop 40 or 50 k at once.

Absolutely. But I don't see people often putting 50k into an old Cessna 172. If I were to buy an aircraft, I'd get as much aircraft for my money (C206, Saratoga), but maybe a 10 or 15 year-old model, with 2000 or so hours. Then for THAT aircraft, I'd put in the G500 and some other good stuff, and I bet it would come out the same as a new C172 with G1000!
 
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