Nothing in Seat Pockets?

FYI some of the quote from the article that hits the main points
“Under new F.A.A. regulations, you may not place anything in your seatback pockets,” she announced as passengers boarded the regional jet. The only things that could be in the seatback pocket, she said, were “company-printed material,” like the in-flight magazine, the safety card and presumably the air-sickness bag. All “personal items” had to be stowed in the overhead bin or under the seat.
The immediate assumption was that a flight attendant or the regional airline she worked for had decided that passengers could no longer use seatback pockets to tuck things away — and the F.A.A. did not initially dispute that.
“It’s news to me,” Les Dorr, an F.A.A. spokesman, said when asked Monday morning about such federal prohibition on using seatback pockets. But late Monday afternoon, Mr. Dorr sent an e-mail message saying that the agency had been issuing “guidance” to carriers to that effect, telling regional agents who work directly with airlines that “nothing should be in the seatback pocket” except in-flight magazines and the safety information card put there by the carriers themselves.
Several major carriers said that they knew nothing about this and had no immediate plans to enforce it.
“The seatbacks are absolutely there to be used for personal items,” said Robin Urbanski, a spokeswoman for United Airlines — which was the airline of record for the flight I took, though it was operated by SkyWest, and the ticket was purchased on US Airways.
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So- only the corporate propaganda..oops...magazine, the Skymall catalog, and the emergency card.
 
somebody somewhere doesn't have anywhere enough work to do.

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Next time Ifly commercial I will print out 14CFR121, put it in the seat pocket, and ask the Flight Harrasser to show me where it says this.
 
Why am I not surprised, given that the FAA is easily the most dysfunctional excuse for a government agency I have encountered.
 
ed it probably isnt in 121. you'll need to find a copy of the airlines opspecs, thats probably where this is at.
 
tonycondon said:
ed it probably isnt in 121. you'll need to find a copy of the airlines opspecs, thats probably where this is at.
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Then they should say we have a policy, not the FAA has a policy. If it is in fact a "new FAA regulation" policy it should say in 14CFR.
 
UFB. On the other hand, I rarely put anything in the seat back pockets except for a water bottle. Do you see the **** other people leave in there? Yuk.
 
nddons said:
UFB. On the other hand, I rarely put anything in the seat back pockets except for a water bottle. Do you see the **** other people leave in there? Yuk.
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Beembo. Now you know where the policy came from.

It only takes one aged dirty diaper to ruin it for everyone. :devil:
 
nddons said:
UFB. On the other hand, I rarely put anything in the seat back pockets except for a water bottle. Do you see the **** other people leave in there? Yuk.
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I got a dirty diaper last year. That was nice.

Cheers,

-Andrew
 
smigaldi said:
I hope you did not mention it to the FA. Most airlines will charge you a fee for that!! ;)
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"Sir, you have the rare "servizio di noleggio e lavaggio di pannolini", usually reserved for Chairman's members of our esteemed airline! As such, we will have to charge you $29.95 "onboard service fee", otherwise, TSA will take you off the plane..."
 
On my flight out to Portland earlier this week I had to take the walk from the first row of coach to the rear toilets so as to not accidentally hijack the plane (another stupid TSA rule). On my way back to my seat I passed by a guy looking at a porn mag.

This has nothing to do with the airlines per say. But seem to remember a better class of people being on board flights. Now it seems that trash is the norm. Maybe I am being too elitist, but nonetheless if you are in a public space put the porn away! geesh!
 
smigaldi said:
On my flight out to Portland earlier this week I had to take the walk from the first row of coach to the rear toilets so as to not accidentally hijack the plane (another stupid TSA rule). On my way back to my seat I passed by a guy looking at a porn mag.

This has nothing to do with the airlines per say. But seem to remember a better class of people being on board flights. Now it seems that trash is the norm. Maybe I am being too elitist, but nonetheless if you are in a public space put the porn away! geesh!
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I've got some similar stories, including a flight to PIT where someone, ahem, logged Solo PIC in the 7-mile-high club. I was sick and needed to use the restroom; I held it until PIT.

Cheers,

-Andrew
 
astanley said:
"Sir, you have the rare "servizio di noleggio e lavaggio di pannolini", usually reserved for Chairman's members of our esteemed airline! As such, we will have to charge you $29.95 "onboard service fee", otherwise, TSA will take you off the plane..."
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The TSA certainly would have if the FA thought it was a weapon. Look what happened to the poor sots that turned in the knives they've found on board.

smigaldi said:
On my flight out to Portland earlier this week I had to take the walk from the first row of coach to the rear toilets so as to not accidentally hijack the plane (another stupid TSA rule). On my way back to my seat I passed by a guy looking at a porn mag.

This has nothing to do with the airlines per say. But seem to remember a better class of people being on board flights. Now it seems that trash is the norm. Maybe I am being too elitist, but nonetheless if you are in a public space put the porn away! geesh!
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Or at least bring enough to share ;)

Seriously, I've seen FAs tell a guy to stop watching a porn movie on his computer in First. And some business travelers act like the biggest trash on a plane. DYKWIA!
 
wsuffa said:
Seriously, I've seen FAs tell a guy to stop watching a porn movie on his computer in First. And some business travelers act like the biggest trash on a plane. DYKWIA!
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I was wathcing a DVD that had a topless shot in it and I was mortally embarrassed that the people behind me could have seen that. Not that I am a prude or anything, but I try to remember that not everyone wants to see that stuff and being in an airplane is being in a public space!!
 
smigaldi said:
I was wathcing a DVD that had a topless shot in it and I was mortally embarrassed that the people behind me could have seen that. Not that I am a prude or anything, but I try to remember that not everyone wants to see that stuff and being in an airplane is being in a public space!!
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Agreed 100%. There's a time and place for everything. I don't want to have to worry about the plane turning into a sleazy porn theater with (redacted).

It's like the couple that were seated in 1A and B on a 757 out of San Francisco one day 10 years ago that gave each other a tongue lashing and far, far more in their seats at the front of the cabin for most of the flight. Even the crew didn't want to speak to them about it.... so we ended up having to watch that inappropriate behavior (inappropriate regardless of sexual orientation) all the way to Cincinnati. At least 2 passengers from F moved to the Y cabin.
 
smigaldi said:
I was wathcing a DVD that had a topless shot in it and I was mortally embarrassed that the people behind me could have seen that. Not that I am a prude or anything, but I try to remember that not everyone wants to see that stuff and being in an airplane is being in a public space!!
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I recall having a word with UA a couple years ago about one of their choices for an in-flight movie on a SYD-SFO flight. Absolutely unsuitable for children. Don't remember what it was, but my wife and I were not amused.
 
nddons said:
UFB. On the other hand, I rarely put anything in the seat back pockets except for a water bottle. Do you see the **** other people leave in there? Yuk.
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Boy have I got some stories for you. Having worked on a plane that didn't have a flight attendant to keep people from doing stupid ****, I would recommend not putting anything that goes near your mouth anywhere near the seat back.
 
EdFred said:
Then they should say we have a policy, not the FAA has a policy. If it is in fact a "new FAA regulation" policy it should say in 14CFR.
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True but the FA's only parrot what they are told. They don't know any better.
 
smigaldi said:
I was wathcing a DVD that had a topless shot in it and I was mortally embarrassed that the people behind me could have seen that. Not that I am a prude or anything, but I try to remember that not everyone wants to see that stuff and being in an airplane is being in a public space!!
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I got the cycling film "Hell on Wheels" via Netflix before a trip. I desperately had wanted to see it, because I was going through a "I hate Jan Ullrich" phase.

I was in AA F DFW-BOS, 8pm departure. There is a scene where they interview Erik Zabel, who is in the shower (wearing bathing trunks), and is shaving his legs. Needless to say, I was mortified.

Cheers,

-Andrew
 
wsuffa said:
Seriously, I've seen FAs tell a guy to stop watching a porn movie on his computer in First. And some business travelers act like the biggest trash on a plane. DYKWIA!
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Ah yes. I love the DYKWIA crowd. Nothing like a good old I HAVE BEEN A CUSTOMER OF AA FOR 35 YEARS AND I AM AN EXECUTIVE PLATINUM FOR LIFE AND CONTROL MILLIONS OF DOLLARS OF TRAVEL SPENDING AND YOU ARE SAYING I CANNOT GET INTO THE ADMIRALS CLUB BECAUSE I AM NOT A MEMBER at 0530 in the morning.

Cheers,

-Andrew
 
astanley said:
Ah yes. I love the DYKWIA crowd. Nothing like a good old I HAVE BEEN A CUSTOMER OF AA FOR 35 YEARS AND I AM AN EXECUTIVE PLATINUM FOR LIFE AND CONTROL MILLIONS OF DOLLARS OF TRAVEL SPENDING AND YOU ARE SAYING I CANNOT GET INTO THE ADMIRALS CLUB BECAUSE I AM NOT A MEMBER at 0530 in the morning.

Cheers,

-Andrew
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"How come HE got upgraded and I didn't"....

One reason I spend little time on Flyertalk's AA forum. ;)
 
wsuffa said:
"How come HE got upgraded and I didn't"....

One reason I spend little time on Flyertalk's AA forum. ;)
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Yeah. Although, I did post a particularly bitchy "Cabin door closed, empty seat in F, I was #1 on the U/G list, why didn't I get my #$#@ seat?" once.

I really, really try not to think that way anymore.
 
astanley said:
Yeah. Although, I did post a particularly bitchy "Cabin door closed, empty seat in F, I was #1 on the U/G list, why didn't I get my #$#@ seat?" once.

I really, really try not to think that way anymore.
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I reserve my ire these days for BCD Travel....
 
smigaldi said:
I was wathcing a DVD that had a topless shot in it and I was mortally embarrassed that the people behind me could have seen that. Not that I am a prude or anything, but I try to remember that not everyone wants to see that stuff and being in an airplane is being in a public space!!
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You mean like Airplane! We had that on at Gaston's, and there's this very brief, very gratuitous scene where Kitten Natividad runs across the screen, flashes, and runs off. Probably about 2 seconds. Someone watching said "I forgot about that scene!":ihih:
 
I hope people treat their homes a lot better than they treat an airplane. Even the short 2 hour flight turned the plane into a giant litter box. People think there is always SOMEONE to clean up after them.
And don't get me started about the restrooms in the WHITE COLLAR OFFICE BUILDING I work in.
 
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