New Idea for Panel

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I'm thinking about a total redo of my avionics. Here's what I was thinking:
From the bottom of the stack up...transponder (mode C to trans Freeflight ADS-B); then a Garmin 430 WAAS (to feed the ELT and engine monitor); above that a NavCom and then a comm panel. I would get the thinnest types of instruments I could.
Here's where it gets different: above that I would like to put a glove box about 8hx9dx12w. In front of the box as a cover so to speak I would mount my tablet. I would have a USB power outlet in the box and the box could be removed for access to the inside of the panel.

It seems to me if we are going to be using our tablets as our primary flight instruments they should be mounted appropriately.
 
What aircraft? An 8" open spot for a tablet "MFD" in the stack with the other avionics is going to require a rather tall panel! I think airgizmo makes tablet mounts for the panel too?
 
If you have or are going to have a 430 I don't know why you would panel mount a iPad. Thrust use the tablet in your lap or yoke mount a mini tablet for your charts and other stuff.
 
I use a ram mount on the side of the windscreen. Works great doesn't block panel. Use 12 v plug for the I pad.
 
I'm trying to avoid carrying it in my lap or mounting it in the way of other instruments. The tablet is so much more capable than the 430 in that it has a bigger screen, can show ADS-B in traffic and weather and even show sim-vision.
I figure the stack will be about 15 inches top to bottom max.
I just see these Garmin 500 and 700 screens getting so big but still limited to what can be certified and taking up so much volume in the panel when it can all be done with a tablet.
 
do you already have a mode C transponder? I was going to recommend getting a mode S if you were having to get something.

I've seen people put their 696, etc. on the panels. I don't know why you couldn't do something similar for an ipad. Personally, I like having mine within very short reach so that I can read plates and stretch images.
 
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It's a Cardinal and the Mode C works fine with the Freeflight ADS-B
 
Mode C does nothing for you with ADS-B actually.

Your ADS-B IN receiver will receive weather and other useful flight data (FIS-B ) regardless as long as you are in range of the ground towers. That information is not selectively broadcast. It is always broadcast all the time for anyone with an ADS-B IN receiver.

Traffic data (TIS-B ) is a different animal. The ground towers only transmit traffic data for a bubble around an aircraft equipped with ADS-B Out. So if you had a Mode S 1090ES transponder or 978 UAT giving you ADS-B OUT, the ground towers would transmit traffic in a 15 mile x 3000ft radius around your aircraft.

But if you do not have ADS-B OUT, you an only receive traffic data as a consequence of being in the vicinity of one that is. Very incomplete.
 
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P2P -- Mind putting a B and a ) too close to one another. That's what's creating the smiley with the shades B)
 
P2P-according to Freeflight, they can transmit their ADS-B out through my Mode C transponder and wifi or bluetooth the ADS-B in to my tablet.
 
I think you're reading that wrong. Your Mode C transponder is not doing anything new or different. It is not capable of ADS-B anything.

FreeFlight's stuff is ADS-B IN/OUT. So you are getting the full benefit of ADS-B and compliant with 2020. Your FreeFlight unit can interface with, or simply listen to your existing transponder. So it knows what you're squawking, and will use that information. It is your ADS-B unit listening in to your transponder, not the other way around.
 
Either you or the salesman at the Freeflight booth at OSH have it wrong. I withhold judgement because he was a salesman and I don't know you.
 
Your forgot option 3, you misunderstood the salesman. What you think the salesman told you is physically impossible. Mode C does not contain anything remotely related to ADS-B, nor can it just magically start doing it. I highly doubt the salesman told you that. I also highly expect he worded it in a way in which it sounded super duper special, and easy to misunderstand. ADS-B is a hugely misunderstood system to begin with.

Furthermore, I'm right :yes:
http://youtu.be/yxa8SwGuVm0?t=2m19s

At 2:19, the freeflight sales video explains how it does exactly what I described. You set your Mode C transponder as normal. Rather than having to duplicate that squawk code into the FreeFlight control head as well, it listens on 1090mhz for your really really strong transponder signal, picks up that code, and uses it. Otherwise, you would need to enter it manually.
 
Ha. You're welcome. Note also that to do that, it requires an add-on module. You have the base Rangr 978XVR unit, which is the ADS-B 978mhz UAT. Then you need the add-on card providing the GPS position if you don't already have an approved and capable GPS. You need the TC-978 control head. You need the FTM-1090C to pick up your existing transponder code. You need their WiFi add-on device as well if you want to use it with a tablet. And obviously you need an antenna for the UAT. And antenna for the GPS if you are using their add-on module.

So just saying all this to be clear that it is not one product that does everything. It is several products combined to do all of what you want.
 
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