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I was on short final in a Cessna 172 for a full stop landing when an sr22 passed overhead with around 5ft vertical separation and continued to descend into our flight path . My student immediately reduced power to idle and slowed down . We then side stepped to the right and I reported the near miss to tower. I then told tower I would be maneuvering into right traffic to avoid the cirrus and requested an immediate landing. We continued right traffic and landed. Prior to the incident we were on a right downwind for runway 30R when we were instructed to perform a left 360 for spacing and that after the 360 to extend downwind and tower would call our base. We did just that and relieved our landing clearance. I also heard tower clear the sr22 to land on runway 30L. The incident was so close that we could feel the wake from the cirrus .
 
Jeez..glad everything worked out for ya.
 
I've already talked to tower and filed a nasa report , tower is sending data to faa. Do I need to file anything else?
 
if anyone wants the atc audio let me know and ill send it, just dont want to post it on the board.
 
The closest I ever came was a similar situation where a Saratoga over took me on final in a 172 in a class D. I don't know if tower ever advised him he was following me or not, but I talked to the pilot on the ramp afterward, and when he said "I saw you on TCAS, but I never did see you", it took every thing I had not to punch him.
 
Seems rather close, especially at a tower controlled field. Not saying you did ANYTHING wrong, but besides listening to tower instructions one needs to take it upon themselves to evaluate traffic. With the parallel runways and hearing the other guy get clearance I'd be scanning for him and put visual acquisition of that aircraft as high priority. Just like with driving a vehicle, one could end up being 'dead right', all the time following tower instructions.

5' is rather close, things are getting serious.
 
near miss said:
if anyone wants the atc audio let me know and ill send it, just dont want to post it on the board.
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I'd like it. How did you get it? I doubt if the Tower released it to you. If you got from LiveATC or some site like that, why not just give us the link here?
 
sourdough44 said:
Seems rather close, especially at a tower controlled field. .
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Sounds like controller error possibly, and perhaps the other pilot if he wasn't where he was supposed to be. Towers have those big windows for a reason and the controller should have been watching his traffic. And I'm saying that as a former controller. I'd like to listen if you put the link on here. Help us armchair specialists possibly understand what occurred.
 
mscard88 said:
Sounds like controller error possibly, and perhaps the other pilot if he wasn't where he was supposed to be. Towers have those big windows for a reason and the controller should have been watching his traffic. And I'm saying that as a former controller. I'd like to listen if you put the link on here. Help us armchair specialists possibly understand what occurred.
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The other pilot received a Brasher warning.
 
So you nearly missed him or you nearly hit him?
I think this was a near-collision instead. :)

But glad he did not hit you and you're alive to tell us about it. I wonder what will come out of it for the Cirrus pilot.

@SixPapaCharlie - are Cirri allowed to fly any traffic pattern legs? Like base or even downwind? I thought the SOP was a minimum of 35-mile final with a call "Traffic In The Pattern Please Advise". What say you, our Cirrus expert? :D
 
BigBadLou said:
So you nearly missed him or you nearly hit him?
I think this was a near-collision instead. :)

But glad he did not hit you and you're alive to tell us about it. I wonder what will come out of it for the Cirrus pilot.

@SixPapaCharlie - are Cirri allowed to fly any traffic pattern legs? Like base or even downwind? I thought the SOP was a minimum of 35-mile final with a call "Traffic In The Pattern Please Advise". What say you, our Cirrus expert? :D
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What the hell is a traffic pattern?


Oh wait you mean the little squares the riff raff flys in all around the airport. If I owned a Far/Aim, I would look it up.

Actually, no I wouldn't.
 
It was a near miss, as opposed to a far or distant miss. It was not nearly a miss as it was nearly a hit.

Near != Nearly
Near <> Nearly

If the two objects missed it is considered a miss. The proximity of the miss is then defined using the word "near"

I wish I could get one of those equal signs with the line through it....
 
SixPapaCharlie said:
What the hell is a traffic pattern?


Oh wait you mean the little squares the riff raff flys in all around the airport. If I owned a Far/Aim, I would look it up.

Actually, no I wouldn't.
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How do the right of way rules go again? Glider has right of way over airplane, airplane has right of way over helo. Cirrus has right of way over everyone!!!!!
 
Somedudeintn said:
I guess I could have googled and copied and pasted.... Dang iPhone.
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Consider the free app "Glyph-O-Rama."
Gets you ≠, along with others I use on a regular basis like ½, ®, and Ω. Some of their glyphs are now emojis available on the emoji keyboard, but others are not.
 
NJP_MAN said:
maybe try this. Get others to find them for you.


@SixPapaCharlie I need the delta symbol that represents change.
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