[N/A] Should Tornado Shelters be Mandatory ?

[weilke]

It's not a fallacy, it's just a comparison. If the taxpayers are paying the same amount each to a) cure/prevent heart disease, or b) install tornado shelters, I'd hope everyone chose option A simply due to the likelihood it would actually benefit them or someone they knew. Address the risks that are most prevalent before addressing the minor stuff.

Your argument required you to introduce two crutches:
A. the taxpayer funding it
B. the presence of limited resources.

I never suggested A.

And for B: Most builder designed houses come with that giant waste of lumber called a 'sitting room' or 'living room'. I don't have a butler who could seat people in the 'sitting room' and get their business card on a silver platter (the only use for that room seems to be tp house a piano that nobody plays ;-) ) . There are other items on houses that serve no practical purpose yet they are common design details. No life has ever been saved by a quartz countertop or a built-in bookshelf. In new construction, a shelter is a few percent of the total. The limited resources argument would make sense if all new construction was some socialist 2 bedroom structure with a chinese made coil cooktop, but that's not what the builders put on the market.

 

[SoonerAviator]

Your argument required you to introduce two crutches:
A. the taxpayer funding it
B. the presence of limited resources.

I never suggested A.

And for B: Most builder designed houses come with that giant waste of lumber called a 'sitting room' or 'living room'. I don't have a butler who could seat people in the 'sitting room' and get their business card on a silver platter (the only use for that room seems to be tp house a piano that nobody plays ;-) ) . There are other items on houses that serve no practical purpose yet they are common design details. No life has ever been saved by a quartz countertop or a built-in bookshelf. In new construction, a shelter is a few percent of the total. The limited resources argument would make sense if all new construction was some socialist 2 bedroom structure with a chinese made coil cooktop, but that's not what the builders put on the market.

You're right, and those items like quartz countertops and bookshelves you mentioned are OPTIONAL, not mandated by the state. My premise was that if you are going to force the government to MANDATE (taxpayer-driven by its definition of being government enforced) one of those two options (heart disease or tornado shelters), one of those is going to be more effective at saving lives. The other is a tornado shelter. If resources are assumed to be unlimited, then there's no point in doing any comparison because we'd just take steps to mitigate all of the millions of miniscule risks that might be present in daily life, no matter if it saves one life per decade or 1 life per minute. Assuming unlimited resources is pointless.

 

[weilke]

And again, you are attacking a point I didn't make.

 

[denverpilot]

And @denverpilot I'd multiquote your post but I'm on my phone... On the flip side, there seems to be a belief among some pickup drivers that the relative size of their vehicles allows them to intimidate other drivers by merging into them and expecting them to avoid the collision... there's gotta be some offset there relative to the "big truck, scary truck" mitigation of which you speak. It is amusing to me in my sedan since I know my dash cam protects me from a civil perspective, and the structural integrity of my car is stronger than most other cars on the road. Bring it!

No argument there. There's plenty of jerks driving all sorts of things. I just chuckle when people zip around the dually like it's some sort of big truck... heh. Remember I'm the boring guy who drives the speed limit everywhere...

 

[OkieFlyer]

I worry about sharknadoes.

No Sharknadoes here in OK. However, the do have Tigernadoes.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tigernado