My quest for my license

I wouldn't like getting billed Tach on a Warrior! Those things are set to something ridiculous like 2200 RPM = 1 real:tach ratio! I cruise at 2400-2500... I flew about 13 on a big trip and my tach was around 14.5 or 15 and I could swear a was doing the math right...

then I told the guy I rent from and he laughed and told me how that plane is...

But anyway sorry for the hijack, good luck on your training and always remember: It's not the end product you're looking for (being a commercial pilot, or just being a private pilot, or whatever your aspirations may be), the important part is to not miss what's happening here and now. Enjoy your training and make the best of it.
 
Guess I'm not going up tomorrow, plane is down, I felt the right brake was a little squishy, reported it, we tried to bleed it during club maintenance night (every monday night) and get no pressure from the right master. I mean NO pressure, so between the time from when we flew this morning, and after attempting to bleed it, that master completely failed. They let me pull it out though! Compared to working on cars (what I do for a living) working on planes is easy.
 
They let me pull it out though! Compared to working on cars (what I do for a living) working on planes is easy.
Remember to learn what you can and can't do in a plane (legally speaking)!

You don't want the FAA's eyes near you for any reason ever!
 
Good work on the steep turns. Didn't notice much if anything interms of altitude loss. Gald you so passionate about it. From the short amount of Audio it seems your CFI has a great style.
 
Remember to learn what you can and can't do in a plane (legally speaking)!

You don't want the FAA's eyes near you for any reason ever!
Removal is perfectly legal, as long as a certified mechanic reinstalls and signs off on it, right?

eMKay - what kind of shop do you work at? Sounds like the same story as me haha. Sorry the plane is down - I feel your pain.. I'd have another 2 hours under my belt if the nose gear strut hadn't been discovered as being totally deflated during one of our pre-flights. :rolleyes2:

I wonder what it's like to fly a Warrior versus the C172N.. same HP, but I'm guessing she handles the crosswinds a little better than the skyhawk (it's amazing how easily this thing gets tossed around) :goofy:

You're probably right about the CFI thing (how it's different because he knows me) but sometimes I wonder what it would be like to have a "by the book" younger guy who is a little more lenient and not afraid to actually talk to you lol.

When you're 5 hours total time in and has you overfly midfield and descend/turn to crosswind/pattern alt. with a "don't fall below below pattern altitude/1700'agl and 70kts on approach or I'm taking the plane" it becomes a little stressful! :crazy:

Are they giving you a decent deal over there? What's avgas at? I'm at the point where I'm trying to plan out the financial aspects into the future so I don't become one of those 75% dropout PPL statistics haha.
 
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Removal is perfectly legal, as long as a certified mechanic reinstalls and signs off on it, right?
anything is legal if the A&P Signs it because that basically means he did it, he's responsible BUT

there are some things you can do yourself without an A&P, I'm not 100% sure what they are but they are mostly preventative however since I don't own an aircraft nor are there any clubs for me to be a part of, I don't bother.

I know if I show an interest in something like oil changes they'll try to get me to do free changes so no thanks!
 
I wouldn't like getting billed Tach on a Warrior! Those things are set to something ridiculous like 2200 RPM = 1 real:tach ratio! I cruise at 2400-2500... I flew about 13 on a big trip and my tach was around 14.5 or 15 and I could swear a was doing the math right...

then I told the guy I rent from and he laughed and told me how that plane is...

Must be a plane-by-plane thing (and IME, it is) - Our Archer (which is a Warrior + 20hp) runs anywhere between 1.08 and 1.4 clock/Hobbs hours per tach hour depending on what kind of flight it is (VFR cross country is lower due to a larger percentage of time spent at high power settings, while bopping around the pattern is higher).
 
anything is legal if the A&P Signs it because that basically means he did it, he's responsible BUT

there are some things you can do yourself without an A&P, I'm not 100% sure what they are but they are mostly preventative however since I don't own an aircraft nor are there any clubs for me to be a part of, I don't bother.

I know if I show an interest in something like oil changes they'll try to get me to do free changes so no thanks!

Yeah I remember that topic fairly well since I'm trying to drill the written test knowledge into my head (I forget the FARs for that) but yes, obviously a failed brake system is no longer preventive.

From what I understand, you can take out the old system, lay out the new system parts, and/or provide easy access to the applicable areas of the aircraft (removing cowlings, etc) and let them reinstall/sign off.

It's not a "shortcut" really, but simply a nice way for the shop to let the aircraft owner better understand their plane and save some $$ on the ridiculous maintenance costs for this kinda thing. Then again I'm slight biased since I work on all my cars myself and always have (I took an M3 in ONE TIME but only because I didn't want to mess with suspension bushings and didn't have a shop lift)
 
Then again I'm slight biased since I work on all my cars myself and always have (I took an M3 in ONE TIME but only because I didn't want to mess with suspension bushings and didn't have a shop lift)
Don't get me wrong, if it's my vehicle, nobody is touching it. but if it ain't my aircraft, I ain't doing it for free.
 
Don't get me wrong, if it's my vehicle, nobody is touching it. but if it ain't my aircraft, I ain't doing it for free.
Well said, and the same goes for cars now that you mention it (speaking of that and M3s.. I'm gonna be scoring some beer/pizza later this week when my friend wants his radiator replaced!)
 
Well said, and the same goes for cars now that you mention it (speaking of that and M3s.. I'm gonna be scoring some beer/pizza later this week when my friend wants his radiator replaced!)
I wish I had those kinds of friends. my friends would buy me a mcdouble for that :(
 
Those steep turns, at third lesson, are very impressive, and I agree: get slow flight nailed at this stage, and so much more will be easy later on.

Keep us posted on your progress!
 
The plane(s) are owned by my club, the club has an A&P, so technically I'm paying them to work on it :) Although it's much cheaper than owning my own plane. We have 4 planes, problem is students are not allowed to use the Archers, and the 172 is in for it's annual right now.
 
The plane(s) are owned by my club, the club has an A&P, so technically I'm paying them to work on it :) Although it's much cheaper than owning my own plane. We have 4 planes, problem is students are not allowed to use the Archers, and the 172 is in for it's annual right now.

Probably just as well.. I very highly doubt you'll be in a high-wing for the rest of your life :ihih: might as well start off in the warrior!

I've gotta get myself in a low-wing, but I'll probably wait till everything is done.

Jeeze every time I look at the syllabus and all the material I've gotta cover and have memorized for the practical/written (totally independent of the skills I've gotta acquire and semi-master as well) it's all kinda... overwhelming. :confused:

I guess just one step/lesson at a time
 
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I recall the regs mentioning something like..."complex disassembly".
 
Removal is perfectly legal, as long as a certified mechanic reinstalls and signs off on it, right?

eMKay - what kind of shop do you work at? Sounds like the same story as me haha. Sorry the plane is down - I feel your pain.. I'd have another 2 hours under my belt if the nose gear strut hadn't been discovered as being totally deflated during one of our pre-flights. :rolleyes2:

I wonder what it's like to fly a Warrior versus the C172N.. same HP, but I'm guessing she handles the crosswinds a little better than the skyhawk (it's amazing how easily this thing gets tossed around) :goofy:

You're probably right about the CFI thing (how it's different because he knows me) but sometimes I wonder what it would be like to have a "by the book" younger guy who is a little more lenient and not afraid to actually talk to you lol.

When you're 5 hours total time in and has you overfly midfield and descend/turn to crosswind/pattern alt. with a "don't fall below below pattern altitude/1700'agl and 70kts on approach or I'm taking the plane" it becomes a little stressful! :crazy:

Are they giving you a decent deal over there? What's avgas at? I'm at the point where I'm trying to plan out the financial aspects into the future so I don't become one of those 75% dropout PPL statistics haha.

I work at a Hyundai dealer, gold tech.

We don't have a Warrior, it's a 1971 Cherokee 140. It's shorter and has a different wing than a Warrior (Warrior is an Archer with less power) When choosing between them my instructor says the Cherokee is a bit more difficult to fly, and with the stubby "hershey bar" wing, it likes to drop like a rock when you cut the power. So I chose that one for training because it's a little more difficult to fly. My instructor is a by the book young guy, and he's they type that lets his students feel out the plane without excessive correction of technique.

I had a similar experience Monday doing a pattern, I flew all the way to final, but the winds were so bad that he took over when I was having difficulty controlling the approach. Yesterday would have been "landing day" if the plane didn't break.

Fuel is still not bad at this airport, $4.73 but it's well over $5 at both KBUF and Genesee County, so it's going to go up soon.
 
I work at a Hyundai dealer, gold tech.

We don't have a Warrior, it's a 1971 Cherokee 140. It's shorter and has a different wing than a Warrior (Warrior is an Archer with less power) When choosing between them my instructor says the Cherokee is a bit more difficult to fly, and with the stubby "hershey bar" wing, it likes to drop like a rock when you cut the power. So I chose that one for training because it's a little more difficult to fly. My instructor is a by the book young guy, and he's they type that lets his students feel out the plane without excessive correction of technique.

I had a similar experience Monday doing a pattern, I flew all the way to final, but the winds were so bad that he took over when I was having difficulty controlling the approach. Yesterday would have been "landing day" if the plane didn't break.

Fuel is still not bad at this airport, $4.73 but it's well over $5 at both KBUF and Genesee County, so it's going to go up soon.

Ohh okay, I knew the general type of AC but not the details - still, that's exactly why I figured it'd be a good idea to train in. I mean when you start with a cessna, everything's only going to get harder (well, except maybe getting somewhere :yawn: )

We flew out to Shenandoah (SHD) for out first XC yesterday - fuel was over $5.70! :eek: - it was cool though, I entered downwind behind a United Saab 340, and once we landed I held short of entering the taxiway to let a freaking Epic LT go by (me and my CFI have been talking about them/TBMs/PC12s for a while since I think he's ready to move up from the Seneca). What an incredibly beautiful plane! He was off in ~1000' too.

Coming back I had to dodge gliders.. one showed up DIRECTLY ahead 12 o'clock same altitude, pulled into a turn and looked like he was turning head-on, but was actually going away. With those razorblade-wings they're a PITA to see. I didn't have time for half of my checkpoints, with radio/traffic and approach (plus you're flying through a valley so it was impossible to keep within ~50' altitude, bumpy too)

sorta chaotic :sad: ..takeoff/landing back home was a piece of cake though.. hope your first xc goes better!

edit: What's your Cherokee in for now? I think the nose wheel damper is shot on the C172.. on back-taxi it went into a NASTY shake that was totally uncontrollable. DG is screwy too.. I'll probably be grounded with you soon hah.
 
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The right brake master is being rebuilt, we are putting it back together today and it gets signed off by our A&P tomorrow. Then hopefully I'll be flying on Wednesday! Since I started this my plan was twice a week, well due to weather and now this I'm lucky to do once a week.
 
I didn't have time for half of my checkpoints, with radio/traffic and approach (plus you're flying through a valley so it was impossible to keep within ~50' altitude, bumpy too)

sorta chaotic :sad:

As you fly more, though, it'll seem like nothing at all... And then it becomes fun to tangle with a bunch of traffic in a "chaotic" situation! I think maybe the most chaos I've experienced yet was last year flying into Wings for the FlyBQ right as a thunderstorm was moving across KPHL - The poor controller literally scattered airliners in all directions, some were being sent back from the way they came to get to a fix and hold, and meanwhile Pete and I were in the 182 chuckling at the veritable explosion of aluminum away from KPHL as we rode along the back edge of the storm and right into Wings. Fun! :D

edit: What's your Cherokee in for now? I think the nose wheel damper is shot on the C172.. on back-taxi it went into a NASTY shake that was totally uncontrollable.

Try pulling the yoke all the way back - And keep it there. At taxi speeds it may not fix the shimmy, but the other thing you can try is to just slow down until it stops - Or even stop (which will certainly stop the shimmy ;)). If it begins to shimmy again as soon as you start taxiing, yeah it needs a visit to the shop.
 
As you fly more, though, it'll seem like nothing at all... And then it becomes fun to tangle with a bunch of traffic in a "chaotic" situation! I think maybe the most chaos I've experienced yet was last year flying into Wings for the FlyBQ right as a thunderstorm was moving across KPHL - The poor controller literally scattered airliners in all directions, some were being sent back from the way they came to get to a fix and hold, and meanwhile Pete and I were in the 182 chuckling at the veritable explosion of aluminum away from KPHL as we rode along the back edge of the storm and right into Wings. Fun! :D

:crazy: sounds like.. fun? haha I know what you mean, it would be fine with a pilot friend in there too. I can't wait to go to an event/fly-in! My CFI is to the point now where I think he's trying to not really do anything to help, since I'm nearing my first solo and he's judging my SA/ safety, which is fine.

Try pulling the yoke all the way back - And keep it there. At taxi speeds it may not fix the shimmy, but the other thing you can try is to just slow down until it stops - Or even stop (which will certainly stop the shimmy ;)). If it begins to shimmy again as soon as you start taxiing, yeah it needs a visit to the shop.

Yeah that was pretty much an instant reaction.. yoke back into my lap haha (since I knew I was below wheelie-speed) throttle idle, but I couldn't touch the brakes for a second because the pedals were shaking so much. I contemplated adding some throttle to lift the nose-wheel off the ground (since we did soft-field ops the other day and I kinda know how) but I wanted to exit ASAP. Has this happened to you? :(

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The right brake master is being rebuilt, we are putting it back together today and it gets signed off by our A&P tomorrow. Then hopefully I'll be flying on Wednesday! Since I started this my plan was twice a week, well due to weather and now this I'm lucky to do once a week.

Sorry to hear that, I remember when you said it was going in for service the other week. I still think it's nice that you can get your hands on the plane and get a better understanding of all the components.
 
Yeah that was pretty much an instant reaction.. yoke back into my lap haha (since I knew I was below wheelie-speed) throttle idle, but I couldn't touch the brakes for a second because the pedals were shaking so much. I contemplated adding some throttle to lift the nose-wheel off the ground (since we did soft-field ops the other day and I kinda know how) but I wanted to exit ASAP. Has this happened to you? :(

It's probably happened to darn near everybody who's flown a clapped-out rental, which is pretty much all of us. ;)

Keep both feet on the pedals, with a little pressure on both of them - You're in control, not the airplane - and you shouldn't have any problem with the brakes. You'll feel the vibration in the pedals, but you should be able to keep it from being actual motion.

I wouldn't add power and try to "wheelie" on the taxiway, as you'll quickly accelerate and the shimmy will probably get worse until the nosewheel is off the ground, at which point you're going a lot faster than you probably want to be going on a taxiway. Better to just stop and start rolling slowly.
 
My baby is fixed! Master installed, bled, also she got new pads and rotors. Also we ran the new engine in one of the Archers for the first time, I took a video of that. So now that the Archer is going back in service we have 4 planes that have had engine overhauls in the last couple years. Next on the club plan is avionics updates, although they all have pretty nice avionics already

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VnzYoMjWqbQ
 
Thanks for the words of encouragement iASCIIart, it had happened a few times on landing but this was baad, even my instructor told me to pull off so we could check it. I'm sure the same people who did the nose wheel damper did the nose strut (always deflated..) Yeah the brakes felt worthless because everything was shaking so much down there, but we exited at a normal speed so I guess it worked. The plane is only with us for another 3 weeks (club plane) after which point it's off to AvEd for a solo aircraft. It'll be weird going up with someone else.


My baby is fixed! Master installed, bled, also she got new pads and rotors. Also we ran the new engine in one of the Archers for the first time, I took a video of that. So now that the Archer is going back in service we have 4 planes that have had engine overhauls in the last couple years. Next on the club plan is avionics updates, although they all have pretty nice avionics already

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VnzYoMjWqbQ

Wow that plane certainly doesn't look like a beat up school aircraft! Then again new engines always look surprisingly pristine to me (I mean I know that's the point, but still). Sounds good though, fired right up.

What avionics are they changing?
 
Wow that plane certainly doesn't look like a beat up school aircraft! Then again new engines always look surprisingly pristine to me (I mean I know that's the point, but still). Sounds good though, fired right up.

What avionics are they changing?

That plane isn't used for training, but all the others look like that too, they all have newer paint too. I don't know what will be upgraded yet. They all have Garmin 300XL's in them except the other Archer which we just got. That one just had it's horizon indicator fail too, so that one will probably get a fancy GPS, new radio, and rebuilt steam gauges. We have a Cessna 172 that club members complain that it needs a new interior, so that's planned too. They had a Cherokee 6 up until last year, they sold that and got another Archer (the one that needs avionics upgrades)

This is my baby right here, after I have my PPL I can fly the Archers, or if the Cessna and Cherokee are both down, which will happen at the end of the month when they both get their annuals...

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So FINALLY I get to do flight number 4, broken plane and Buffalo weather have kept me on the ground for 3 weeks. I was all set to go yesterday, perfect weather, no wind, but my instructor had to cancel. So instead of two flights back to back it's just one this week. Of course the weather is clear today but with a blustery NE wind, really choppy until we got up to 3500 feet, then smooth as glass. I followed a N-S road with the plane showing a heading of 30 degrees :lol:

Anyway today we did some more slow flight, power on and power off stalls, and a couple more steep turns. Power off stalls I need more work on, just a coordination thing, I need toadd power, then pull back, and remove a notch of flaps all very quickly so the first one I screwed up and he had to help pull back, next few were better. Power on stalls are easy because the Cherokee 140 just refuses to stall, stick all the way back, full power, it will just happily sit there carving a hole through the air all while having complete control.

So I need to do some more power off stalls until I get it right, my slow flight is pretty good, just need a little calmer day and we will do go-arounds and landings. The weather here in spring is just unpredictable, the last two flights I was supposed to land, but the winds were just too much, today even my instructor had a difficult landing (difficult for him anyway, usually he greases them) You'll see in the video, that will be up in a couple hours. You will also see how fast we take off with a 25kt headwind

Total time: 5.4hrs
Aircraft: 1972 Piper PA-28A-140 (160hp)
Route: BQR-northern practice area-BQR
Total time with instructor: 2:00
Billed instructor time: 1:30
Hobbs time 1.1hrs
Tach time 0.8hrs
Fuel used 7.4g
 
I've been following your thread and hope you keep us updated. I just started learning to fly as well (I think we actually have the same amount of hours) but haven't been able to for a couple of weeks because of the weather.

I believe we are both using the same airplane too and I completely understand about the power on stalls.

I was wondering how long you think it will take you to get your PPL? Also, have you taken the FAA written test?
 
This is a good thread.. Thanks for posting as a flight training "journal".

I'm in the same situation as you. I started taking lessons a couple months ago, but due to scheduling and weather have only been able to manage one lesson every two weeks on average. One difference in my training compared with yours is we worked and worked and became proficient at all the manuevers before ever starting any work on landings.

Lately though, we stay in the pattern almost exclusively working on landings. With two weeks in between each lesson, it seems like I need to relearn several things every time I go out, just to get my head back in it. My instructor has been very patient with me, and I'm still having fun making good progress in small steps.

Hopefully a SOLO is in my near future. Good luck with your training, and I'll be following your progress. Remember.... STEP ON THE BALL. B)
 
Flight number 5 today, slow flight, go around, pattern flying, and 5 LANDINGS! crosswind landings. Once again the forecast was wrong, it was forecast to be east winds at 5-10kts, they were south at 10-15kts, but we did it anyway. Anybody else do crosswind landings their first time? :crazy: He helped with the rudder and dipping the wing on the first couple. The weather again was very bumpy (you will see that in my video, up in a couple hours) But two birds with one stone right? I would like a nice calm day, just once! So I can practice normal landings. But after today my instructor said they will be easy.

He said my instincts were good, using the throttle instead of the yoke, just need to work on rudder and dipping the windward (upwind?) wing. So I'm happy I finally got to do landings, wish I had better weather.

Also GVQ was very very busy, so we got to fly the pattern with a lot of traffic, including a Bonanza that had a gear problem. I'm so ****ed I forgot to connect the microphone cable to my camera, so you could hear it. Long story short, he reported an issue with his gear lights, we reported that his gear was only partially down, he returned to Akron where he came from and engaged the autopilot on the way so he could pump the gear down manually. He did that and landed safely. I also got to see the craziness that happens when it's busy, there was a Cirrus that decided to fly his own pattern right above us, apparently only saw us when we asked him where he thought he was going. Then a Cardinal that decided to take off from the middle of the runway.

Total time: 7.1hrs
Aircraft: 1972 Piper PA-28A-140 (160hp)
Route: BQR-GVQ (4 full stop landings)-BQR
Total time with instructor: 2:30
Billed instructor time: 2:00
Hobbs time 1.7hrs
Tach time 1.2hrs
Fuel used 10.12g (price just went up to $5.23!!! $0.50 jump)
 
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. Once again the forecast was wrong, it was forecast to be east winds at 5-10kts, they were south at 10-15kts, but we did it anyway.
One of the many things you will be learning is that forecasts are pretty much always wrong to some extent.
 
It's great watching your progress. We all remember these days, it's good fun to watch.

Getting in a good crosswind day is nice... it'll make the calm day seem all that much easier.

Going back to your video from flight #4... *IF* you don't mind some comments... (I shouldn't offer them un-asked, but I think you're here for thoughts, so... if not... don't read! GRIN!)

You have the "mechanics" of the stall recovery down pat. I just noticed that because you're new to it and nervous, you're "man-handling" the airplane a bit... which is normal for where you're at in training. Try being real smoooooth with everything. Finesse it a little.

Smooth handling will help with the landings, and it'll help with the maneuvers...

Remember, that particular airplane will recover completely from those stall-horn only "stalls" you're doing, just by releasing the controls, without any power application at all. The nose will drop dramatically but the airplane will be instantly flying again the way you're trimmed.

So release back-pressure smartly but no need to "jerk" it forward or push super hard, and definitely no need to fully "let go" of it -- and then push the power up smoothly.

Some engines (arguably they need maintenance, but you WILL run into them in the rental fleet) will really gag with a "romp on it" application of full power, and in later aircraft where you have to watch for a redline limitation, you don't want to be in the habit of smashing that handle forward. Deliberate, fast, smooth application of power is fine.

(Hey, if you were really stalling in the pattern, down low -- you'd have enough of an adrenaline shot you'd end up "smashing" anyway, if your habit was deliberate and smooth, anyway!)

Most engines will react better with a smooth, but deliberate quick push of the throttle forward without "smacking" it with the back of your palm.

Another thing you'll get used to... you can make all of that a lot less work on yourself if you trim, trim, trim, trim, trim. ;) I remember times when I put a self-imposed feeling of being "rushed" on myself in flight training maneuvers... don't do that. Set up for each maneuver deliberately, trim for it, take your time. You'd be surprised that it really won't add many minutes to the overall flight, but you're up there to enjoy it... and the "penalty" is only that you have to fly some more, right! (GRIN!) No need to slam through maneuvers like multiple stalls, back-to-back with no break. Tell the CFI you want to stop for a minute and regroup, look around, grab a swig of water, whatever. Never met a CFI yet who wasn't up for that.

You'll need that trim habit later in bigger aircraft with heavier control feel, or even with lighter control feel too... one will be too heavy to horse around by hand, the other will be too "twitchy" if you're trying to hand-fly it.

Lookin' good! Seriously. For the number of hours and things, I'm seeing lots of things I did back then. Your CFI will slowly work them all out, find all of your bad habits, break them, and build a few habits you haven't acquired yet.

Keep going! Looks like fun from here!
 
I was much better with the trim wheel today, didn't have to use it much before, but today it was takeoff, trim, descent, trim, takeoff, trim, descent, trim, takeoff.......you get the picture. I still feel I need a lot of practice before I can solo.
 
Cool. It comes with time. Didn't mean to sound critical at all. Was going for supportive! ;)
 
Video, remember, my first time, and it's crosswind. You can even see the sock, it's at this end of the runway on the right.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4LPMWGJGMXc

Stop making excuses for your performance. The only people on this board that haven't been through what your going through are the ones that haven't graduated from Bill Gates version sitting on Meigs field.

Your doing fine. I did a written journal of every one of my flights during primary training, and I looked it up. I was as beaten down as someone can get according to my notes and it all turned around on 1 flight.

This was AFTER my solo.
 
Flight number 5 today.... I also got to see the craziness that happens when it's busy, there was a Cirrus that decided to fly his own pattern right above us, apparently only saw us when we asked him where he thought he was going. Then a Cardinal that decided to take off from the middle of the runway.
Stupid Cirrus jocks...no wonder ---------
 
Video, remember, my first time, and it's crosswind. You can even see the sock, it's at this end of the runway on the right.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4LPMWGJGMXc
Brother you did just fine. Shoulda seen some of my crosswind landings starting out. One time we had to pull onto the tarmac to make sure I hadn't knocked something lose.

I remember thinking I'd never learn to land. I was so depressed about it...I just wanted flying to be fun and it was so damn hard.
 
There's a Skyhawk out there somewhere in the rental fleet that came about a half inch from gear damage due to flex from some of my early landings. ;) Plop.
 
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