My FBO asked me, Toga or 182
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stingray
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If I was going to rent either one it would be because I was going somewhere. If I was going somewhere I would spend the extra 50 per hr and take sara along. when you are on a trip do you stay at the Hilton or in a Super 8. You are not going to notice the extra cost.
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Toga for sure.
flyingcheesehead
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Ouch! What don't you like about the 182???
Yeah, it's a high-wing, and it's a Cessna, but with an apples-to-apples P vs. C comparison, I'll take a 182 over a Dakota any day. It's much roomier and more comfortable.
flyingcheesehead
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Well, I don't have quite that problem - There is a complex airplane for rent at MSN, but it's an Arrow IV (T-tail POS
).No complex in my club though.
flyingcheesehead
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Yikes! Our old Archer II's both have useful loads over 1000, and payloads of nearly 800. Those Pipers need to go on a diet!
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Well, I don't have quite that problem - There is a complex airplane for rent at MSN, but it's an Arrow IV (T-tail POS
).No complex in my club though.
flyingcheesehead
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My opinion: "Yes!"
182 will be cheaper. Toga will be bigger and faster. Both will be comfortable.
Actually, since they're buying a NEW plane, presumably it's glass...
So I'll have to change my answer to an emphatic "182!"
AirBaker
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It seems that most of you belong to different clubs than I did. We had a lot of 172s and Cherokees, and just one 182 and one Lance. The 182 was very often available, and the Lance was hardly ever rented.
I can see why either would be attractive rental options though. BUT... if you only had 2 of you out flying, would you still drag the 6 seater around? Maybe... Maybe not.
I can see why either would be attractive rental options though. BUT... if you only had 2 of you out flying, would you still drag the 6 seater around? Maybe... Maybe not.
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Even tho' it's where I keep my plane, I didn't know they were talking new. I assumed gently used.
Still, from a financial standpoint, it really is hard to argue against a 182. A Saratoga is kind of a blunt instrument -- you don't use it for pattern flying or local jaunts, it's to take families to destinations. As a rental, though, you run up against the typical 3hr min per day, or some such. Hard to see how that makes sense for an FBO, given most such trips would be over weekends.
An Arrow would be cheaper for complex/commercial ops. A 182 would be cheaper for rentals (albeit doing nothing for the commercial training) I ASSUME, given the fixed gear and insurers antipathy towards folding legs. I would bet that insurance reqmts would chase away many folks from the Toga.
For me, I want a Saratoga. Financially, for the FBO, as Ron and many others have said, the 182 probably makes sense. Henning's right -- there aren't many 6 seat rental options in the area. Still, I'm not sure there are many 6 seat RENTERs in the area either. If I fly with the fam, say up to NE, at most in a Saratoga it's a 1.5hr flight. That's one expensive weekend on a 3hr min rental.
Ahh, how about an Arrow AND a Saratoga. Not my money, so I feel good about spending it.
Still, from a financial standpoint, it really is hard to argue against a 182. A Saratoga is kind of a blunt instrument -- you don't use it for pattern flying or local jaunts, it's to take families to destinations. As a rental, though, you run up against the typical 3hr min per day, or some such. Hard to see how that makes sense for an FBO, given most such trips would be over weekends.
An Arrow would be cheaper for complex/commercial ops. A 182 would be cheaper for rentals (albeit doing nothing for the commercial training) I ASSUME, given the fixed gear and insurers antipathy towards folding legs. I would bet that insurance reqmts would chase away many folks from the Toga.
For me, I want a Saratoga. Financially, for the FBO, as Ron and many others have said, the 182 probably makes sense. Henning's right -- there aren't many 6 seat rental options in the area. Still, I'm not sure there are many 6 seat RENTERs in the area either. If I fly with the fam, say up to NE, at most in a Saratoga it's a 1.5hr flight. That's one expensive weekend on a 3hr min rental.
Ahh, how about an Arrow AND a Saratoga. Not my money, so I feel good about spending it.